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UT2K4 Onslaught vs. Planetside
February 13th 2004, 04:02 CET by Hugin

The first thing I thought after a few rounds of Onslaught was "Boy, this feels like Planetside on amphetamines."

The next thing I thought was...does Epic's explicit "sporting competition" model for the UT games offer advantages over a game like Planetside, which is attempting to model and simulate a "real" (albeit imaginary) conflict?  In Onslaught, both sides have access to the same weapons and vehicles, which makes an intuitive sense in the sports context, and neatly avoids most of the endless complaining about faction balance in Planetside. The critical network nodes are quite exposed, which makes no "real world" defensive sense, but allows for some furious open battling, instead of the sometimes unsatisfying attritional meatgrinder corridor and stairway battles in Planetside.  Overall, by not having to adhere to so many background story/worldbuilding elements to justify the gameplay conventions, is a better game created?  Is the loss of the deeper meaning written into the background story of Planetside and other fictional conflicts, or recreations of historical events like WW2 worth the tighter gameplay? Is the preservation of a planet or a species or a social philosophy, the defeat of evil, etc (even these people and factions are entirely fictitious) a more compelling goal than winning the Space Superbowl?

  Would it be impossible to hook players into the MMOG, subscription format if it were merely an elaborate sports league?  Is this all really more about the smaller team sizes more than anything else?  Epic or Sony, who's got the smarter sci-fi war?

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#2271 by G-Man
2004-09-23 20:51:23

#2268 Dumdeedum

I believe redirecting the nearest river the is traditional method for mucking out animal enclosures. Although oddly enough I only remember it involving a shovel, a wheelbarrow, and that special form of meditation where you constantly calculate how much you've done/how much you've left to do/how many wheelbarrows each will be and so on and so forth.

Is this some sort of obscure lame reference to a math problem joke?

#2272 by Dumdeedum
2004-09-23 21:25:29

Not that I know of, the first part is a fairly obvious reference to Hercules cleaning out the Aegean stables by redirecting the river. The second part is just something you do when faced with a task like shoveling a lot of shit, you mentally split it up into smaller and smaller fractions: "Once I've cleared out this section I'll be half-way to one third of the way there". But then you're a soft city type, so I wouldn't expect you to understand.

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#2273 by Penguinx
2004-09-23 21:30:06

Dum, I do mentally break things up into smaller bits. When you've got 4 tons of gravel, a shovel, a wheelbarrow, and a driveway that needs to have the gravel evenly dispersed over it, a mental checklist is all the motivation you'll get.

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#2274 by Max
2004-09-24 07:21:57

Oh amen. Jesus, when I think of all the little mental games I engaged in while chopping firewood growing up, I just want to beat the shit out of someone. Bob, probably.

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#2275 by BobJustBob
2004-09-24 15:11:32

You can do whatever you want to me, baby.

Dood.

#2276 by Penguinx
2004-09-24 17:55:04

The people that owned my property before me thought it'd be a good idea to throw gravel down around their trees. Every year the old gravel would sink into the ground and they'd apparently put new gravel over the top of the old to fill in the trenches that were forming.

It took me two months worth of shovel and wheelbarrow work to properly excavate the areas around the tree on my land. Christ, they were a bunch of cluster fucks.

The gravel had to go, though. My tractor blades would be shot to hell every time I'd need to mow.

Milk and Cheese agree, "UAC SUCKS!"

#2277 by Penguinx
2004-09-24 17:59:42

Oops.

That second 'tree' should have plural.

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#2278 by Max
2004-09-25 07:44:23

In other news, you fuckers are still posting to dead threads. There's only one dead thread I want to see posts in from now on. Obey or Bob gets nuked* from orbit.

*Bob knows what this means.

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#2279 by BobJustBob
2004-09-25 15:25:36

I do?

Dood.

#2280 by Dumdeedum
2004-09-25 22:43:42

Matt

Multiplayer Alien Swarm is superb fun.

Just downloaded that, it seems really slick and it's nice to see a mod doing something different for once, even if I'm not very good at the whole squad-based combat thing. I can see co-op being fun, with four players you won't have to worry about all the switching back and forth so you can just concentrate on the alien-killin' goodness.

And being able to equip Sarge with the cigar is class.

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