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Nintendo to Metroid Fans: We Have a Surprise for You!
February 9th 2004, 05:11 CET by Charles What the fuck makes developers think they can completely change a game, partway through, and expect people to like it? I'm not going to spoil what exactly Nintendo has done with Metroid: Zero Mission, but needless to say, the game changes drastically in to something completely different. Something that is NOT Metroid. For all my fear of Nintendo dropping the ball, turns out they actually wanted to, and just wanted to surprise you with it in the worst possible way. Which is a shame, because up until fighting Motherbrain, Metroid: Zero Mission is a damn fine game, perhaps even the best 2D entry in the series. Who at Nintendo thought the extra missions were a good idea? |
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A Spanish teacher in high school was fond of forcing Julio Igleseas videos upon us. I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
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Blue Planet or something? Possibly ... or 'Seas of Discovery'. My TiVo is at home, otherwise I would look it up... "Cheap Garbage Disposal Can’t Handle Femur"
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We watched The Name of the Rose in my high school senior English class. What sucks that our teacher almost got fired for it (instead he got a week suspension with no pay) because there was a scene involving sex. Even though he warned us ahead of time about the scene and encouraged any students who were uncomfortable about that to leave the room. (I got my 15 seconds of fame when the local news interviewed me about it - a bunch of us from the class got together and protested his suspension.) I am in Kyoto
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Caryn- I enjoyed that book. But I'll be honest with you, he should have known better. Teachers need to be aware of school and district policy when it comes to rated R films. Let me ask you, before he showed the film, did he send home a permission slip? That's a beautiful way to go. Shot by Yot. In more ways than one. -mgns
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#88 Caryn Also, private schools don't completely solve that problem. In high school, I attended two years of private school, then two years of public school. The moment that I realized there was something wrong with the public school system was when I picked up my books for my senior level classes. The English book we were using was the same one I'd used my freshman year. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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Speaking of books... "As they shared the excitement of the venture that had brought them together so fully during the short time since the dinner with Russ Feingold, their sense of respect for each other's dedication to their effort to do something for society through their work on the university paper spilled over into an awareness that they both felt drawn to each other romantically. They explored their backgrounds, finding many similarities in experiences and enthusiasms and beliefs, discovering their plans and hopes for the future were so similar that later, as they walked back to Joan's dorm, stopping for a moment in the open park between the university library and the Historical Society building to look up at the night sky, Dave embraced Joan, kissing her for the first time, a kiss that lingered as Joan yielded to his arms. That moment sealed their sense of being a couple. Henceforward they would work as a team." Proof that education isn't everything. It's my life. It never ends.
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#97 yotsuya But I'll be honest with you, he should have known better. Teachers need to be aware of school and district policy when it comes to rated R films. Let me ask you, before he showed the film, did he send home a permission slip? Nope, he didn't. I understand your stance about policy; I simply disagree with the initial motives behind the controversy, which was that a sex scene in the movie was being shown to high school students. I am in Kyoto
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#87 Jibble We spent three days watching the old version of Romeo and Juliet in Junior High. My kids are going to private schools. We watched the newer Romeo and Juliet in school. In history class we watched Where Eagles Dare, The Great Escape, and Mel Brooks History of the World Part One. I also got to watch Blade Runner, Dr. Strangelove, Gladiator, Star Wars, and a whole whack of other great movies. Problem talk creates problems. Solution talk creates solutions.
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#99 jafd oh. my. Problem talk creates problems. Solution talk creates solutions.
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#98 Jibble Also, private schools don't completely solve that problem. In high school, I attended two years of private school, then two years of public school. The moment that I realized there was something wrong with the public school system was when I picked up my books for my senior level classes. The English book we were using was the same one I'd used my freshman year. Oh, I understand. I had the same problem. I went to private school during 8th and 9th grade, but went to a public high school. Because my private high school curriculum was accelerated, they had to jigger my courses in a very odd way. For instance, I'd started learning Latin in 8th grade and most of my 8th and 9th grade math courses were a year ahead of the public school. As a result, by my senior year I was enrolled in a half high school AP, half college curriculum with the local community college, and in my senior year our Latin teacher created a special advanced course for me and one other student since we were a year ahead there (and we wanted to continue to study it if she was willing to teach it). Private school saved my life academically, and that's no small statement given then things that were going on in my life by the time I'd reached 7th grade. As a result, I plan to work my ass off to send my kid to a private school if we have children. I am in Kyoto
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I mostly wasted the possibilities provided to me by private school. If I'd been in it from the beginning I probably would have done better, but tossing a kid from public school to private school at the beginning of his freshman year is a bad idea. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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In junor school (no idea wht the US equivalent is - we were all 9 or 10 anyway) we watched Jaws 2. Can't remember why the teacher showed it to us, but we all thought it was fantastic. In High school, as part of our history study of the American West, we watched Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, and Young Guns 1 and 2. Yes, I know they had little actual relevance, but damn they made last lesson on friday afternoons worthwhile. 9 years later you're the fat kid with his face pressed against the window of The Industry. - crash
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I think public schools would be fine if they could stop trying to bring everyone along at the same pace. I never went to private school, but I took classes outside of the regular schoolwork. They only had a program... using the term loosely... for advancing in math, but it was enough to put me a year ahead in math, and that served me well, going for college and all. What annoys me is that the program was eventually cancelled as being "elitist". They argued as if it were somehow wrong to allow kids to go faster through schoolwork than the rest of the class. As a country, the US isn't going to provide the education kids need to succeed by teaching everyone only as fast as the dumbest kid in the class can learn. This next part could be pretty offensive, I know, but I'll say it anyway. If we are willing to spend a ton of money trying to prop up special education (and I think something like 40% of our total school budget went to special education), why not be willing to spend a little money to let kids who are ahead of the curve advance? Why is it ok to throw tons of money at the bottom end of the bell curve, and somehow wrong to spend some on those at the other end? (and yes I know my grammar sometimes makes me look like I should have been funded by that 40%... so let the insults fly, hehe) |
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But...we can't leave any child behind...that would be unamerican! Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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Ralack- You are right. I agree with your thought that honors and gifted students should be challenged, but I'm not sure their needs are as great as that bottom group. If one of the purposes of school is to get students ready for the world of work, that lower level needs all the help they can get. That's a beautiful way to go. Shot by Yot. In more ways than one. -mgns
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We watched The Name of the Rose in my high school senior English class. What sucks that our teacher almost got fired for it (instead he got a week suspension with no pay) because there was a scene involving sex. I had a teacher show us A Clockwork Orange to us in high school uneditied. I do not think permission slips went out and there was no controversy. |
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#108 yotsuya Ralack- You are right. I agree with your thought that honors and gifted students should be challenged, but I'm not sure their needs are as great as that bottom group. If one of the purposes of school is to get students ready for the world of work, that lower level needs all the help they can get. I agree with yot here. Gifted kids are more likely to have that drive to begin with. If not, then they wouldn't have enrolled in the honors course in the first place. You can easily challenge an honors/gifted kid by simply providing them with a higher level of learning. The kids on the bottom of the bell curve are often lacking motivation, and that's much tougher to provide. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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I agree with your thought that honors and gifted students should be challenged As someone who was one of those honors and gifted students, I disagree with your assertion that people like me should be challenged. The last fucking thing I'd have wanted in school was more work, or harder work. I liked coasting through school and getting good marks. I have no excuses, least of all for God. Like all tyrants, he is not worthy of the spit you would waste on negotiations. The deal we have is infinitely simpler - I don't call him to account, and he extends me the same courtesy.
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#111 Charles The last fucking thing I'd have wanted in school was more work, or harder work. I liked coasting through school and getting good marks. Then don't enroll in honors courses. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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We watched plenty of R-rated movies in my school without incident. In fact, I vividly remember watching an unedited "Jaws" in my third grade class. Hey, don't ask me. Fighting the war on weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.
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As someone who was one of those honors and gifted students, I disagree with your assertion that people like me should be challenged. The last fucking thing I'd have wanted in school was more work, or harder work. I liked coasting through school and getting good marks. Never thought I'd say this, but Amen, brother. I believe I can fly......urk.
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Bah! I detest pop science so much. Horizon is the worst repeat offender over here. Perhaps it has had a run on Discovery too... ? Alas it seems to have become the formula for all science and history programs. Every single episode has 55 minutes of utter dross. Any actual information you get during this period is provided in the most inane, roundabout, utterly speculative, human-interest way ("On the day of his great discovery, Newton may or may not have smoked a pipe before going out into his garden to examine his rose-bushes." Cue five minutes of Victorian re-enactment montage of people walking down a street in slow motion. Often with a blue tint.) Frequently, the science itself is not inaccurate or misrepresented, or the researchers have picked up on a colourful theory by some lunatic living in Nova Scotia, and present it to us as though it had the same merit as the most eminent of scholars. [mini rant] I watched a program on finding a real Robin Hood recently, presented by Tony Robinson (the guy who played Baldrick from Blackadder). Now, I've written a few papers on the Robin Hood tradition, and, aside from the whole purpose of the program being largely fatuous, I was enraged to see a guy being interviewed on the program who is well known in academic circles for being a total fantasist who happily fabricates sources to confirm his own barmy ideas. [/mini rant] Finally, once you've trawled through endless interviews with various unimportant people about how their "discoveries" make them "feel", and the ridiculous abstract montages, and frustratingly simplistic* or spurious explanations, you find five minutes at the end which tells you in compression everything you just heard. As such, I've taken to watching just the last five minutes of any science program that interests me. * I'm no genius, but these programs are made for people who struggle to zip up their flies. Honestly, I watched a critically lauded program on String theory recently, which I find fascinating, but the largest part of the first program was devoted to explaining what gravity is. Unk. |
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There's a difference between teaching different material and piling on homework. People like Jibble seem to think that gifted/honors should do the latter. My brother is a senior in HS now and he's been in those classes for years now and apparently his teachers also feel the same. They never take into account that every other class is giving the same large amount of work and thus my brother is always swamped with homework. At least this year they've apparently lessened the load, as getting college applications done and such take a much higher priority. -DKI(ID
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#109 CheesyPoof I had a teacher show us A Clockwork Orange to us in high school uneditied. I do not think permission slips went out and there was no controversy. You have got to be kidding me. Where did you go to school? How long ago was this? I am in Kyoto
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It was my experience going through school that 1.) I hated most of the fuckwads in my "honors/gifted/whatever" classes, most being annoying yuppie spawn, 2.) Aside from being more fun to hang out with, the kids in "regular" classes seemed to just get a lot more out of the high school experience, and 3.) The honors classes were 80% identical to the regular classes, the only real differences being preferential treatment by the teachers and an assload of lame busy work in the form of projects like making diaramas and stupid posters and models and all manner of stupid and horrible shit. Oh, and 9 out of every 10 honors students wants to be a lawyer. I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
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My problem with the camera/directionality of the PoP controls where that the effect of your inputs would change on the fly as the camera moved cinematically. So I'd start at one end of a hallway presented in a somewhat isometric/diagonal fashion, with moving enemies I had to avoid down its length. I start moving in a sort of diagonal direction, because straight forward didn't actially move you down the corridor. Then as I move, the camera shifts, such that in order to move in a simple straight line, I had to constanly rejigger my input until I was finally moving forward (oh, and at this point the camera angle was so low, the moving spiky columns are actually obscuring my view of the prince and his position.). Bleah. |
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I confused the heck out of my headmaster at school. I'd cut a class, only to be found in the library studying text related to the same class. It took me years to really come to the realization that I loved learning but loathed school. I had deluded myself into thinking I'd liked it, because that's where so much learning happened. |
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Why on earth would you enroll in honors and gifted classes if you wanted to skate through school and get easy A's? I am in Kyoto
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#116 Greg There's a difference between teaching different material and piling on homework. People like Jibble seem to think that gifted/honors should do the latter. Funny, because I didn't say that... #110 Jibble You can easily challenge an honors/gifted kid by simply providing them with a higher level of learning. "Higher level of learning" != more homework. What I meant by that is that if you enroll in honors courses, you should be taught from an early college level textbook rather than a late high school level textbook. Thanks for putting words in my mouth, though. I do so savor them. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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I confused the heck out of my headmaster at school. I'd cut a class, only to be found in the library studying text related to the same class. It took me years to really come to the realization that I loved learning but loathed school. I had deluded myself into thinking I'd liked it, because that's where so much learning happened. Careful....you're starting to sound like me, and that can only end badly. I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
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I liked my honors classes. I felt like I was getting enough of a challenge to learn, and I didn't feel like there was more work than I could handle, despite the fact that the work was still challenging. My teachers seemed interested and engaged. I guess I was lucky. I am in Kyoto
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#121 Caryn Why on earth would you enroll in honors and gifted classes if you wanted to skate through school and get easy A's? The 'gifted' class I was in took lots of field trips and generally had an easier time of things. I guess they wanted to let our minds grow naturally or whatever. The homework was no more than regular classes. "Cheap Garbage Disposal Can’t Handle Femur"
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Jibble: Right. Unless you explicitly said it, you didn't even infer it. (from post #112) -DKI(ID
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#116 Greg They never take into account that every other class is giving the same large amount of work and thus my brother is always swamped with homework. This merits a response as well. If he really feels that way, I truly pity him when he enters college and moves on to real life. College professors don't care if you have six tests in one week, and your boss isn't going to care that little Timmy broke his leg when deadlines are coming up. Again, I'm not saying that the excessive homework is a good thing, but this isn't the argument anyone should be making against it. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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I start moving in a sort of diagonal direction, because straight forward didn't actially move you down the corridor. Then as I move, the camera shifts, such that in order to move in a simple straight line, I had to constanly rejigger my input until I was finally moving forward Push the button to center the camera behind you. Default is "c". It's my life. It never ends.
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#126 Greg Jibble: Right. Unless you explicitly said it, you didn't even infer it. (from post #112) I said "If you don't like extra work, don't enroll in honors courses." You're both saying that honors courses are extra work. Wheels on the bus go round and round... Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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You have got to be kidding me. Where did you go to school? How long ago was this? "A Clockwork Orange" is pretty tame by today's standards. I don't see this as unbelievable. I remember reading the book for school in seventh grade. Fighting the war on weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.
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Education varies wildly from place to place, so it's quite likely that some folks, like Caryn, had a positive experience with honors classes, while others got mired down in all the home/busywork. Personally, I was able to skate through my honors classes without getting bogged down in the busywork, but at the same time I didn't really learn much in them except just how much many public school teachers don't know about a subject, or know but prefer not to explore. I've always been an argumentative sort, so now that I think about it, while I had tons of busywork I'd rarely do the actual assignments and instead turn in or present something either on a completely different subject, or in the same subject but jumping into whatever details we never went over in book or lecture. Either way, I think this approach confused more teachers than it infuriated, and rather than researching information not found in the sidebars of their teacher's edition textbooks, they'd just slap an A on it and send me on my way. I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
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Doing the tutoring work I've been doing, I hear talk from parents, teachers, and faculty sometimes about homework amounts. There is a growing concern, I think, that homework loads have increased over the last few years to an alarming amount, to the point where the kid doesn't have time to just go outside and be a kid anymore because they're socked in with so much homework. When I tutor the kids and I see what they're working on and how much there is, I would have to agree. I'm amazed at how much the fourth through sixth graders have for homework, and I recall having maybe half of that at that age. And these are the kids in the lower level groups that need the special focus, not even the honors or advanced classes (but then I don't know if they have those in most schools in that age group). I am in Kyoto
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No Jibble, those weren't his words, those were my words. In my experience of going through high school and going to college full time for four years, I have never seen anyone have the amount of work that he had been given. Yeah, you may say that it's an example of the real world, but that's bullshit. It's an insane amount of work that the real world won't come close to rivaling. -DKI(ID
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Then don't enroll in honors courses. There is some miscommunication here, as I have no idea what honors classes are, so I'm guessing they didn't exist at my school. I thought you meant honors students as in students with high grades, which is what honors students were where I went to school. I have no excuses, least of all for God. Like all tyrants, he is not worthy of the spit you would waste on negotiations. The deal we have is infinitely simpler - I don't call him to account, and he extends me the same courtesy.
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#130 McBain "A Clockwork Orange" is pretty tame by today's standards. I don't see this as unbelievable. I remember reading the book for school in seventh grade. Tame by today's standards? I can't tell you how much I disagree with this. The book, on the other hand, I feel is something that would be interesting material for a high school class. It's controversial but there's a lot there to discuss and think about. The movie I don't feel challenges the viewer as much as the book challenges the reader (if I'm recalling the book correctly), and really just presents a lot of lurid stuff that I don't think a kid should be exposed to really (and I'm fairly liberal in that regard). I am in Kyoto
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#133 Greg No Jibble, those weren't his words, those were my words. In my experience of going through high school and going to college full time for four years, I have never seen anyone have the amount of work that he had been given. Yeah, you may say that it's an example of the real world, but that's bullshit. It's an insane amount of work that the real world won't come close to rivaling. Right, and everyone puts in a 40 hour work week and never has to bring work home. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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#129 Jibble #126 Greg Jibble: Right. Unless you explicitly said it, you didn't even infer it. (from post #112) I said "If you don't like extra work, don't enroll in honors courses." You're both saying that honors courses are extra work. Wheels on the bus go round and round... I said "My brother is a senior in HS now and he's been in those classes for years now and apparently his teachers also feel the same." I just gave my brother's case as an example. I was in honors/AP courses at my high school, which is a different school from where my brother goes, and the work load was not excessive. It's different for every school. -DKI(ID
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#134 Charles There is some miscommunication here, as I have no idea what honors classes are, so I'm guessing they didn't exist at my school. I thought you meant honors students as in students with high grades, which is what honors students were where I went to school. Ahh, I see. If they're saddling A students with extra work just because they're A students, that's a really messed up system. Honors for us was a separate curriculum to "challenge" students. Separate teachers, separate classes, and you could choose not to be in an honors course. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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Different people have different experiences and perceptions, then they argue because they don't really understand what everyone's referring to. The confusion subsides upon further examination and everyone goes their separate ways. This closes another chapter in PlanetCrap history, where the ending is always the same. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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Jibble, if you are working more than 40 hours a week, bringing work home, and hating it, get a new job. But of course, your superior knowledge completely invalidates what I've seen with my brother. Carry on. -DKI(ID
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#128 by jafd Push the button to center the camera behind you. Default is "c". Someone in the channel recommended that to me the first night I complained about it. It didn't work. I checked the mapping in the options and it still didn't work. I don't know if my demo was buggy or what. But the only think I could ever get the camera to do was go into first person "look" mode, which it snapped out of as soon as I moved anyway. |
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Well, some students have the misconception that honors= more homework. Unfortunately, sometimes that is the case, but that's a problem with the teacher, not the curriculum. It usually happens when a teacher teacher the regular AND advanced versions of the same course, and doesn't want to be bothered with extra prepping. That's a beautiful way to go. Shot by Yot. In more ways than one. -mgns
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Well, we had the stupid classes, but by default everyone took the un-crippled classes that weren't for retards. Basically how our stuff worked was that you had 10/20/30 level courses, and that was grade 10/11/12. Then, there were the courses for kids who just weren't smart enough for the full course, which were basically 13/23/33. Those were the courses where everything was multiple choice and all questions were straight out of the textbooks. In the 10/20/30 level courses, you actually had to think and problem solve, but they were the default courses. I took a 33 for Social Studies because I detested social studies (which is a melange of history, politics, economics, etc), and Social 20 was a whole lot of work that I didn't enjoy. It was funny, because I didn't do any homework, I didn't read any of the text books, I didn't pay attention in class, and I still ended up with the highest mark in that class of 79%. It was ridiculously easy, because all questions on tests were something like "A. Obvious wrong answer, B. Obvious wrong ansewr, C. Obvious wrong answer, D. Some other answer that had to be right based on elimination." Good times. I have no excuses, least of all for God. Like all tyrants, he is not worthy of the spit you would waste on negotiations. The deal we have is infinitely simpler - I don't call him to account, and he extends me the same courtesy.
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