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Nintendo to Metroid Fans: We Have a Surprise for You!
February 9th 2004, 05:11 CET by Charles What the fuck makes developers think they can completely change a game, partway through, and expect people to like it? I'm not going to spoil what exactly Nintendo has done with Metroid: Zero Mission, but needless to say, the game changes drastically in to something completely different. Something that is NOT Metroid. For all my fear of Nintendo dropping the ball, turns out they actually wanted to, and just wanted to surprise you with it in the worst possible way. Which is a shame, because up until fighting Motherbrain, Metroid: Zero Mission is a damn fine game, perhaps even the best 2D entry in the series. Who at Nintendo thought the extra missions were a good idea? |
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As someone who was one of those honors and gifted students, I disagree with your assertion that people like me should be challenged. The last fucking thing I'd have wanted in school was more work, or harder work. I liked coasting through school and getting good marks. Never thought I'd say this, but Amen, brother. I believe I can fly......urk.
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Bah! I detest pop science so much. Horizon is the worst repeat offender over here. Perhaps it has had a run on Discovery too... ? Alas it seems to have become the formula for all science and history programs. Every single episode has 55 minutes of utter dross. Any actual information you get during this period is provided in the most inane, roundabout, utterly speculative, human-interest way ("On the day of his great discovery, Newton may or may not have smoked a pipe before going out into his garden to examine his rose-bushes." Cue five minutes of Victorian re-enactment montage of people walking down a street in slow motion. Often with a blue tint.) Frequently, the science itself is not inaccurate or misrepresented, or the researchers have picked up on a colourful theory by some lunatic living in Nova Scotia, and present it to us as though it had the same merit as the most eminent of scholars. [mini rant] I watched a program on finding a real Robin Hood recently, presented by Tony Robinson (the guy who played Baldrick from Blackadder). Now, I've written a few papers on the Robin Hood tradition, and, aside from the whole purpose of the program being largely fatuous, I was enraged to see a guy being interviewed on the program who is well known in academic circles for being a total fantasist who happily fabricates sources to confirm his own barmy ideas. [/mini rant] Finally, once you've trawled through endless interviews with various unimportant people about how their "discoveries" make them "feel", and the ridiculous abstract montages, and frustratingly simplistic* or spurious explanations, you find five minutes at the end which tells you in compression everything you just heard. As such, I've taken to watching just the last five minutes of any science program that interests me. * I'm no genius, but these programs are made for people who struggle to zip up their flies. Honestly, I watched a critically lauded program on String theory recently, which I find fascinating, but the largest part of the first program was devoted to explaining what gravity is. Unk. |
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There's a difference between teaching different material and piling on homework. People like Jibble seem to think that gifted/honors should do the latter. My brother is a senior in HS now and he's been in those classes for years now and apparently his teachers also feel the same. They never take into account that every other class is giving the same large amount of work and thus my brother is always swamped with homework. At least this year they've apparently lessened the load, as getting college applications done and such take a much higher priority. -DKI(ID
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#109 CheesyPoof I had a teacher show us A Clockwork Orange to us in high school uneditied. I do not think permission slips went out and there was no controversy. You have got to be kidding me. Where did you go to school? How long ago was this? I am in Kyoto
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It was my experience going through school that 1.) I hated most of the fuckwads in my "honors/gifted/whatever" classes, most being annoying yuppie spawn, 2.) Aside from being more fun to hang out with, the kids in "regular" classes seemed to just get a lot more out of the high school experience, and 3.) The honors classes were 80% identical to the regular classes, the only real differences being preferential treatment by the teachers and an assload of lame busy work in the form of projects like making diaramas and stupid posters and models and all manner of stupid and horrible shit. Oh, and 9 out of every 10 honors students wants to be a lawyer. I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
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My problem with the camera/directionality of the PoP controls where that the effect of your inputs would change on the fly as the camera moved cinematically. So I'd start at one end of a hallway presented in a somewhat isometric/diagonal fashion, with moving enemies I had to avoid down its length. I start moving in a sort of diagonal direction, because straight forward didn't actially move you down the corridor. Then as I move, the camera shifts, such that in order to move in a simple straight line, I had to constanly rejigger my input until I was finally moving forward (oh, and at this point the camera angle was so low, the moving spiky columns are actually obscuring my view of the prince and his position.). Bleah. |
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I confused the heck out of my headmaster at school. I'd cut a class, only to be found in the library studying text related to the same class. It took me years to really come to the realization that I loved learning but loathed school. I had deluded myself into thinking I'd liked it, because that's where so much learning happened. |
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Why on earth would you enroll in honors and gifted classes if you wanted to skate through school and get easy A's? I am in Kyoto
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#116 Greg There's a difference between teaching different material and piling on homework. People like Jibble seem to think that gifted/honors should do the latter. Funny, because I didn't say that... #110 Jibble You can easily challenge an honors/gifted kid by simply providing them with a higher level of learning. "Higher level of learning" != more homework. What I meant by that is that if you enroll in honors courses, you should be taught from an early college level textbook rather than a late high school level textbook. Thanks for putting words in my mouth, though. I do so savor them. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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I confused the heck out of my headmaster at school. I'd cut a class, only to be found in the library studying text related to the same class. It took me years to really come to the realization that I loved learning but loathed school. I had deluded myself into thinking I'd liked it, because that's where so much learning happened. Careful....you're starting to sound like me, and that can only end badly. I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
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I liked my honors classes. I felt like I was getting enough of a challenge to learn, and I didn't feel like there was more work than I could handle, despite the fact that the work was still challenging. My teachers seemed interested and engaged. I guess I was lucky. I am in Kyoto
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#121 Caryn Why on earth would you enroll in honors and gifted classes if you wanted to skate through school and get easy A's? The 'gifted' class I was in took lots of field trips and generally had an easier time of things. I guess they wanted to let our minds grow naturally or whatever. The homework was no more than regular classes. "Cheap Garbage Disposal Can’t Handle Femur"
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Jibble: Right. Unless you explicitly said it, you didn't even infer it. (from post #112) -DKI(ID
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#116 Greg They never take into account that every other class is giving the same large amount of work and thus my brother is always swamped with homework. This merits a response as well. If he really feels that way, I truly pity him when he enters college and moves on to real life. College professors don't care if you have six tests in one week, and your boss isn't going to care that little Timmy broke his leg when deadlines are coming up. Again, I'm not saying that the excessive homework is a good thing, but this isn't the argument anyone should be making against it. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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I start moving in a sort of diagonal direction, because straight forward didn't actially move you down the corridor. Then as I move, the camera shifts, such that in order to move in a simple straight line, I had to constanly rejigger my input until I was finally moving forward Push the button to center the camera behind you. Default is "c". It's my life. It never ends.
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#126 Greg Jibble: Right. Unless you explicitly said it, you didn't even infer it. (from post #112) I said "If you don't like extra work, don't enroll in honors courses." You're both saying that honors courses are extra work. Wheels on the bus go round and round... Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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You have got to be kidding me. Where did you go to school? How long ago was this? "A Clockwork Orange" is pretty tame by today's standards. I don't see this as unbelievable. I remember reading the book for school in seventh grade. Fighting the war on weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.
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Education varies wildly from place to place, so it's quite likely that some folks, like Caryn, had a positive experience with honors classes, while others got mired down in all the home/busywork. Personally, I was able to skate through my honors classes without getting bogged down in the busywork, but at the same time I didn't really learn much in them except just how much many public school teachers don't know about a subject, or know but prefer not to explore. I've always been an argumentative sort, so now that I think about it, while I had tons of busywork I'd rarely do the actual assignments and instead turn in or present something either on a completely different subject, or in the same subject but jumping into whatever details we never went over in book or lecture. Either way, I think this approach confused more teachers than it infuriated, and rather than researching information not found in the sidebars of their teacher's edition textbooks, they'd just slap an A on it and send me on my way. I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
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Doing the tutoring work I've been doing, I hear talk from parents, teachers, and faculty sometimes about homework amounts. There is a growing concern, I think, that homework loads have increased over the last few years to an alarming amount, to the point where the kid doesn't have time to just go outside and be a kid anymore because they're socked in with so much homework. When I tutor the kids and I see what they're working on and how much there is, I would have to agree. I'm amazed at how much the fourth through sixth graders have for homework, and I recall having maybe half of that at that age. And these are the kids in the lower level groups that need the special focus, not even the honors or advanced classes (but then I don't know if they have those in most schools in that age group). I am in Kyoto
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No Jibble, those weren't his words, those were my words. In my experience of going through high school and going to college full time for four years, I have never seen anyone have the amount of work that he had been given. Yeah, you may say that it's an example of the real world, but that's bullshit. It's an insane amount of work that the real world won't come close to rivaling. -DKI(ID
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Then don't enroll in honors courses. There is some miscommunication here, as I have no idea what honors classes are, so I'm guessing they didn't exist at my school. I thought you meant honors students as in students with high grades, which is what honors students were where I went to school. I have no excuses, least of all for God. Like all tyrants, he is not worthy of the spit you would waste on negotiations. The deal we have is infinitely simpler - I don't call him to account, and he extends me the same courtesy.
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#130 McBain "A Clockwork Orange" is pretty tame by today's standards. I don't see this as unbelievable. I remember reading the book for school in seventh grade. Tame by today's standards? I can't tell you how much I disagree with this. The book, on the other hand, I feel is something that would be interesting material for a high school class. It's controversial but there's a lot there to discuss and think about. The movie I don't feel challenges the viewer as much as the book challenges the reader (if I'm recalling the book correctly), and really just presents a lot of lurid stuff that I don't think a kid should be exposed to really (and I'm fairly liberal in that regard). I am in Kyoto
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#133 Greg No Jibble, those weren't his words, those were my words. In my experience of going through high school and going to college full time for four years, I have never seen anyone have the amount of work that he had been given. Yeah, you may say that it's an example of the real world, but that's bullshit. It's an insane amount of work that the real world won't come close to rivaling. Right, and everyone puts in a 40 hour work week and never has to bring work home. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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#129 Jibble #126 Greg Jibble: Right. Unless you explicitly said it, you didn't even infer it. (from post #112) I said "If you don't like extra work, don't enroll in honors courses." You're both saying that honors courses are extra work. Wheels on the bus go round and round... I said "My brother is a senior in HS now and he's been in those classes for years now and apparently his teachers also feel the same." I just gave my brother's case as an example. I was in honors/AP courses at my high school, which is a different school from where my brother goes, and the work load was not excessive. It's different for every school. -DKI(ID
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#134 Charles There is some miscommunication here, as I have no idea what honors classes are, so I'm guessing they didn't exist at my school. I thought you meant honors students as in students with high grades, which is what honors students were where I went to school. Ahh, I see. If they're saddling A students with extra work just because they're A students, that's a really messed up system. Honors for us was a separate curriculum to "challenge" students. Separate teachers, separate classes, and you could choose not to be in an honors course. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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Different people have different experiences and perceptions, then they argue because they don't really understand what everyone's referring to. The confusion subsides upon further examination and everyone goes their separate ways. This closes another chapter in PlanetCrap history, where the ending is always the same. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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Jibble, if you are working more than 40 hours a week, bringing work home, and hating it, get a new job. But of course, your superior knowledge completely invalidates what I've seen with my brother. Carry on. -DKI(ID
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#128 by jafd Push the button to center the camera behind you. Default is "c". Someone in the channel recommended that to me the first night I complained about it. It didn't work. I checked the mapping in the options and it still didn't work. I don't know if my demo was buggy or what. But the only think I could ever get the camera to do was go into first person "look" mode, which it snapped out of as soon as I moved anyway. |
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Well, some students have the misconception that honors= more homework. Unfortunately, sometimes that is the case, but that's a problem with the teacher, not the curriculum. It usually happens when a teacher teacher the regular AND advanced versions of the same course, and doesn't want to be bothered with extra prepping. That's a beautiful way to go. Shot by Yot. In more ways than one. -mgns
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Well, we had the stupid classes, but by default everyone took the un-crippled classes that weren't for retards. Basically how our stuff worked was that you had 10/20/30 level courses, and that was grade 10/11/12. Then, there were the courses for kids who just weren't smart enough for the full course, which were basically 13/23/33. Those were the courses where everything was multiple choice and all questions were straight out of the textbooks. In the 10/20/30 level courses, you actually had to think and problem solve, but they were the default courses. I took a 33 for Social Studies because I detested social studies (which is a melange of history, politics, economics, etc), and Social 20 was a whole lot of work that I didn't enjoy. It was funny, because I didn't do any homework, I didn't read any of the text books, I didn't pay attention in class, and I still ended up with the highest mark in that class of 79%. It was ridiculously easy, because all questions on tests were something like "A. Obvious wrong answer, B. Obvious wrong ansewr, C. Obvious wrong answer, D. Some other answer that had to be right based on elimination." Good times. I have no excuses, least of all for God. Like all tyrants, he is not worthy of the spit you would waste on negotiations. The deal we have is infinitely simpler - I don't call him to account, and he extends me the same courtesy.
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I'm just glad that every day of the second half of my Senior year consisted of an hour at Burger King, two hours at an elementary school goofing off, an hour of programming in Pascal, then early release. Good times. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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Oh, and on top of that, in the 33 course I took, any written questions on tests were easily answered by piecing together bits of the other multiple choice questions and answers. I have no excuses, least of all for God. Like all tyrants, he is not worthy of the spit you would waste on negotiations. The deal we have is infinitely simpler - I don't call him to account, and he extends me the same courtesy.
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#144 Jibble I'm just glad that every day of the second half of my Senior year consisted of an hour at Burger King, two hours at an elementary school goofing off, an hour of programming in Pascal, then early release. Good times. And people bitch about the American education system ... Pfft! "Cheap Garbage Disposal Can’t Handle Femur"
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The book, on the other hand, I feel is something that would be interesting material for a high school class. It's controversial but there's a lot there to discuss and think about. The movie I don't feel challenges the viewer as much as the book challenges the reader (if I'm recalling the book correctly), and really just presents a lot of lurid stuff that I don't think a kid should be exposed to really (and I'm fairly liberal in that regard). See, I think the movie is one of the greatest all time, directed by my all time favorite director Stanley Kubrick. I think there is plenty of enrichment to be found in the film, and I look forward to watching it and discussing it with my teenage child years from now. To describe it as lurid, in my opinion, is to only examine the surface. The book is great and all, but I think kind of cops out in the end, as Alex suddenly reforms and says he was just doing kid stuff, when I think the whole theme of the story is premised by the idea that he is an incorrigible psychopath. Fighting the war on weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.
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I want to be an incorrigible psychopath too! I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
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Stanley Kubrick was a hack. I have no excuses, least of all for God. Like all tyrants, he is not worthy of the spit you would waste on negotiations. The deal we have is infinitely simpler - I don't call him to account, and he extends me the same courtesy.
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Stanley Kubrick was a hack. You will be ignored. Fighting the war on weapons of mass destruction-related program activity.
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obligatory school videos comment RE class, 5th year (aged around 15-16), we get to sit and watch Threads, for those who dont know what it is, its the BBC`s depiction of the aftermath of a nuclear war. Replete with people pissing themselves in the high street, explosive vomiting from radiation sickness, and la piece de resistance` a mother having to sever the umbilical cord with her teeth. All in close up wonderful detail. Then again, thats the same teacher that, a few weeks before summer break showed us footage of actual abortion procedures, sans warning, sans consent forms. Yeah, cheers Ivan McClintock, we love you too. Do not go gently into that good night.
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#146 Warren Marshall And people bitch about the American education system ... Pfft! I had a senior level education at the end of my freshman year. My best friend and I were the exception rather than the rule. My aunt worked at the elementary school, so I suggested an "outreach" program where we provided them any needed tech support. We ended up just playing with the kids and fixing a Mac every now and then. I think of it as a reward for being clever. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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#147 McBain See, I think the movie is one of the greatest all time, directed by my all time favorite director Stanley Kubrick. I think there is plenty of enrichment to be found in the film, and I look forward to watching it and discussing it with my teenage child years from now. To describe it as lurid, in my opinion, is to only examine the surface. The book is great and all, but I think kind of cops out in the end, as Alex suddenly reforms and says he was just doing kid stuff, when I think the whole theme of the story is premised by the idea that he is an incorrigible psychopath. I used to say that the movie was one of the top three in my list of best movies ever, but after repeated watching over the years (and I first saw the film when I was 9 - not something I'd recommend) I don't feel it's aged well. However, I do believe it has the better ending. I too like the idea that he was an incorrigible psychopath, and I feel that the movie presents the core theme better: the idea of the removal of free will being such a crime that society actually celebrates the ability of a criminal given back his free will to commit rape, murder, and senseless violence. But having said that, I still say that it's not something I'd want my kid to see until they were about, oh, maybe 17 or so. I just still feel that it's too harsh until they can rationally discuss what the movie is actually trying to say instead of focusing purely on the violence and rape. I am in Kyoto
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And the phallic statues. Winner of the prestigious "Yotsuya's Gold Star Writer of the Week" animated gif award.
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I constantly frustrated the hell out of my teachers in high school, as they believed I was destined for the honor classes, but I preferred not to do homework or attend, coasting by on a passing grade. Arguably, this set some bad habits for later in life. Still, there's nothing quite like a science teacher having a near breakdown in the middle of class, shaking an A+ report in your face, shouting "Why can't you do this all the time?!" You got nothing coming.
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#150 McBain Stanley Kubrick was a hack. You will be ignored. He was the hackiest hack that ever lived. "Cheap Garbage Disposal Can’t Handle Femur"
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I much prefer the breakdown where I skip two out of three classes, and still get a 90% average in a class, while a teacher attempts to get mad at me for cutting class, but can't use any of the typical guilt focused arguments of ruining my education. I have no excuses, least of all for God. Like all tyrants, he is not worthy of the spit you would waste on negotiations. The deal we have is infinitely simpler - I don't call him to account, and he extends me the same courtesy.
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Clockwork Orange isn't that bad. The only scene I'd find objectionable for kids is the rape scene. Savage violence and consensual sex with strangers is A-OK! You got nothing coming.
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#160 Charles I much prefer the breakdown where I skip two out of three classes, and still get a 90% average in a class, while a teacher attempts to get mad at me for cutting class, but can't use any of the typical guilt focused arguments of ruining my education. I'm surprised they let you get away with that. My teachers would tie attendance to your grade. Miss too many classes, and you fail. "Cheap Garbage Disposal Can’t Handle Femur"
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I honestly don't see what people see in Kubrick movies. I enjoyed Dr. Strangelove and Clockwork Orange, but other than that, everything I've seen of his has been poor. Poorly directed too.. christ, that guy just doesn't know how to end a scene, or to create tension. Even Dr. Strangelove exhibits these kind of problems. I have no excuses, least of all for God. Like all tyrants, he is not worthy of the spit you would waste on negotiations. The deal we have is infinitely simpler - I don't call him to account, and he extends me the same courtesy.
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