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Merging = Yielding to Oncoming Traffic
December 6th 2003, 07:27 CET by crash

Breaking news: IGN and GameSpy are "merging." The Yahoo press release. Any tasty tidbits? Why, certainly. First question is "Who gets to be the bitch?" From the writeup, it would appear to be GameSpy:

Mr. Jung [IGN's current CEO] will serve the new company as CEO, and Mr. Surfas will serve as the Chief Strategy Officer and will join Mr. Jung on the Board of Directors. Because of their distinct audiences and strong loyalties, both the IGN.com and GameSpy.com brands will be retained. The companies expect to complete the merger in the first half of 2004.

Second point of note: When has a merger ever resulted in parallel companies, especially when said companies compete for the same mindshare? Hrm. I can't think of one, but I'm sure someone will, so I can't say, "It has never happened." All I can do is qualify that with "...to the best of my recollection." Which isn't so hot any more, come right down to it.

Third: Why's the merger happening? Simple: IGN wants better writers [difficult to get worse than they have, honestly -ed], a better PC-game presence, and FilePlanet:

"This combination offers tremendous synergies as GameSpy and IGN have very complementary strengths," said Mark Jung, IGN's CEO. "GameSpy is the market leader with the PC game audience, game downloads and online gaming technology. IGN is the market leader with the console game audience and in community services such as message boards. Both companies have very strong subscription acquisition and retention programs."

IGN's "VN Boards" are staggeringly successful in terms of retention and traffic. Checking their front door, at 8:40 Pacific time on 4 December, they're sporting 557 total messageboards, nearly 71 million messages, and almost 54 thousand posted in the last 20 hours... which comes out to 45 messages every second all day long. Probably every day, too. Sure, they're a pit of idiots, and a lot of 'em, but the idiots come back, read the ads, and pay the "Insider" fees to get icons and colored text in their posts. And that looks real good on the bottom line.

IGN has a lot of real good reasons to want to field-strip GameSpy's assets, and the clout to do it. Can GameSpy be dealing from a position of strength on this one? If they are, why's Bastard playing second fiddle to a guy heading a company who's stock was trading at a nickel a share not so very long ago?

What's gonna happen now, do you think?
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#154 by G-Man
2003-12-12 07:43:52
So:

NO NINJA! NO NINJA! NO?
#155 by Squeaky
2003-12-12 07:45:48
NO NINJA! NO NINJA! FUCK YOU!

#156 by Your Friend
2003-12-12 08:05:57

Not to mention the fact that Ninja don't exist, and have never existed in the entire history of the world except in the minds of Hollywood wonks.


Hollywood wonks? While the whole 'ninja' thing is largely a myth (not completely invented, but heavily embellished, much like the American cowboy), it is a myth that predates Hollywood by at least a few hundred years.  And Japanese kabuki performances (where the stage-hands dressed up in all black and wore hoods to appear 'invisible') are where the ninja look/'costume' came from.. not 80s movies.

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#157 by Squeaky
2003-12-12 08:10:49
And before anybody calls me out on it: yes, I do study ninjutsu.

Ninjutsu is commonly known as the art of the ninja. But Ninjutsu is not an assasination art where you dress up in black and strap a straight sword to your back and climb roofs. It's a combination of many styles of fighting all rolled into one comprehensive package: kenjutsu (sword), yarijutsu (spear), bojutsu (staff), taijutsu (unarmed), and many others (bow, swimming, horseback, throwing weapons, guns). Sure, some of them might have been hired out as assasins, but I have never seen such an ineffectual group of assasins in my life (not counting all the 80s ninja flicks). Secondly, straight swords would have been extremely rare in Japan during the 1870s. From what I can recall, they stopped using straight sword sometime around the 1400s. Also, when trying to sneak around at night, black is one of the worst colours you can wear. It sticks out like a sore thumb against the night sky. It's just as bad trying to hide in the bush wearing black.

I think thats enough ranting for now.

#158 by Squeaky
2003-12-12 08:12:21
#156 Your Friend
Hollywood wonks? While the whole 'ninja' thing is largely a myth (not completely invented, but heavily embellished, much like the American cowboy), it is a myth that predates Hollywood by at least a few hundred years.  And Japanese kabuki performances (where the stage-hands dressed up in all black and wore hoods to appear 'invisible') are where the ninja look/'costume' came from.. not 80s movies.

I know thats where the look came from, but the actual persona of a ninja: black-clad assasin is completely and utterly horse-shite.

#159 by mrbloo
2003-12-12 10:21:56
mrbloo2000@hotmail.com
But you have to admit that ineffectual hordes of ninja are entertaining, no?  Zombies aren't very realistic either, but I love to see them shamble forward into the gunfire.  You could say that they both have an equal and  special place in my heart.  

You could push the realism envelope and work on becoming a zombie ninja.  Or raise an army of them, and film them attacking you.  Boy, would I watch that.

#160 by Jibble
2003-12-12 14:47:18
Wouldn't a zombie ninja be awfully slow and thus ineffectual in his art?

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#161 by CheesyPoof
2003-12-12 14:49:32
The post monster has arisen early.
#162 by Jibble
2003-12-12 14:50:34
I live...again.

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#163 by Warren Marshall
2003-12-12 15:54:11
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
Looks like they are still around.

That's just an entry in a business database.  They changed their name to SequelCorp (or something like that) a while back and I believe are still in business.

And a second opinion.

He likes it, he just can't bring himself to admit it.

Respawn Games
Open your mind, let the beatings begin.
#164 by TheTrunkDr.
2003-12-12 16:25:16
So Squeaky, how would you stage an assassination attempt in 1870's Japan?

I kid cause I care.
#165 by Matt Perkins
2003-12-12 16:26:37
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Me, I would start by planning an assassination, not just an attempt.  Better chance of success I'm thinking.

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#166 by mgns
2003-12-12 16:33:13
Well, Failing to plan is planning to fail.

Or so many a project leader have told me, in outmost confidence, tapping nose with finger...

He leans on the hood telling racing stories, the kids call him Jimmy The Saint.
#167 by mgns
2003-12-12 16:35:23
Failing to capitalize correctly is a capital failure.

He leans on the hood telling racing stories, the kids call him Jimmy The Saint.
#168 by Jibble
2003-12-12 16:41:36
Does that merit capital punishment?

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#169 by mgns
2003-12-12 16:47:11
You'll never catch me, goatee-boy!

He leans on the hood telling racing stories, the kids call him Jimmy The Saint.
#170 by Charles
2003-12-12 17:09:09
www.bluh.org
Ninja validity aside, the fight with the ninjas was one of the best combat scenes I've ever seen in a movie.  Absolutely amazing.  The choreography was great, the camera work actually let you see the combat (instead of most movies nowadays that cop out with a bunch of super close shots of close movement, which don't allow you to see anything), and I was on the edge of my seat the whole time.  It rocked.

Wow. I wish I knew The Whole Truth™ with 100% certainty, and, in addition to that, had The Talent™ to bring My Vision™ to The Teeming Uneducated Masses™ as capital-A Art using allegory and upskirt shots as my vehicle for understanding.

--crash
#171 by yotsuya
2003-12-12 17:45:12
So Squeaky, how would you stage an assassination attempt in 1870's Japan?


Find a "lone" gunman and a schoolbook depository, for one.

"YES!!  You see people, THAT'S why he's the Vice-President of A/V Services here at Respawn Games.  Yotsuya ALWAYS unleashes the fucking fury!" - Warren Marshall
#172 by Jibble
2003-12-12 18:04:20
Speaking of Kennedy, someone allegedly committed suicide (still not known if he killed himself) this morning in Dealey Plaza "approximately on the spot where an assassin killed President John F. Kennedy".  I'd link a news story but it's not being picked up yet by a news source that doesn't require registration.  The 40th anniversary of the assassination happened November 22 this year.  Very odd.

Also, as a citizen in Dallas I sometimes find myself driving through Dealey Plaza on the way in and out of town...it always makes me feel nervous and creeped out.

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#173 by Jibble
2003-12-12 18:06:03
Oh, and FYI Caryn.  

Last week, Schwarzenegger repealed Senate Bill 60 -- legislation that would have allowed undocumented workers to obtain a California driver's license.


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#174 by Dethstryk
2003-12-12 18:10:10
jemartin@tcainternet.com
Good. Special privileges such as being able to get a driver's license without being a U.S. citizen are bullshit, anyway.

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#175 by mgns
2003-12-12 18:11:19
JFK is a damn good film.

He leans on the hood telling racing stories, the kids call him Jimmy The Saint.
#176 by Dethstryk
2003-12-12 18:14:13
jemartin@tcainternet.com
It's a good movie, but that's about it.

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#177 by yotsuya
2003-12-12 18:16:25
No, I think the damn is warrented.

"YES!!  You see people, THAT'S why he's the Vice-President of A/V Services here at Respawn Games.  Yotsuya ALWAYS unleashes the fucking fury!" - Warren Marshall
#178 by Dethstryk
2003-12-12 18:18:08
jemartin@tcainternet.com
Okay, it was a damn good movie. I'll admit that, but the whole JFK conspiracy shit is overblown beyond sanity.

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#179 by yotsuya
2003-12-12 18:19:10
Deth-

Without seeming like I wear a tin-foil hat, I don't think Oswald acted alone.

"YES!!  You see people, THAT'S why he's the Vice-President of A/V Services here at Respawn Games.  Yotsuya ALWAYS unleashes the fucking fury!" - Warren Marshall
#180 by mgns
2003-12-12 18:45:34
...was the last thing the high school teacher said before he was found in a hole in the Arizona desert, dead like punk rock.

He leans on the hood telling racing stories, the kids call him Jimmy The Saint.
#181 by yotsuya
2003-12-12 18:47:40
Heh. I did a paper on the assassination in college, and did tons of research. Do I know who did it? No. But let's just say, to borrow a term from G-Man's profession, that I have a reasonable doubt in my mind that Oswald acted alone.

"YES!!  You see people, THAT'S why he's the Vice-President of A/V Services here at Respawn Games.  Yotsuya ALWAYS unleashes the fucking fury!" - Warren Marshall
#182 by Squeaky
2003-12-12 18:53:28
#159 mrbloo
But you have to admit that ineffectual hordes of ninja are entertaining, no?

it was definately entertaining. Just out of place.

#164 TheTrunkDr.
So Squeaky, how would you stage an assassination attempt in 1870's Japan?

what?

#170 Charles
Ninja validity aside, the fight with the ninjas was one of the best combat scenes I've ever seen in a movie.  Absolutely amazing.  The choreography was great, the camera work actually let you see the combat (instead of most movies nowadays that cop out with a bunch of super close shots of close movement, which don't allow you to see anything), and I was on the edge of my seat the whole time.  It rocked.

Aye. It did indeed rock.

#183 by mgns
2003-12-12 18:55:35
I've always wondered about Jack Ruby myself. Oswald kills prez, Ruby kills Oswald, blod clot kills Ruby.

It's very easy to get paranoid when you start to read up on the assassination, and I guess that's half the fun.

He leans on the hood telling racing stories, the kids call him Jimmy The Saint.
#184 by jjohnsen
2003-12-12 20:12:55
http://www.johnsenclan.com
How could one dude do all that?  Theories about aliens killing Kennedy might be a little off, but anyone that would say Oswald acted alone would make me think "you're nuts".
#185 by Ergo
2003-12-12 20:22:18
I think Oswald acted alone. Whether I'm nuts or not is debatable.

Cogite tute.
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#186 by Neale
2003-12-12 20:49:38
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
There was a documentary in the UK recently that showed the work of a guy that modelled the whole of Dealey Plaza in minute detail and made a simulation showing the shooting, using the Zapruder footage to accurately map and animate the movements of the motorcade and it's occupants. He showed that, based on the angles and the movements of Kennedy's body that there could only have been one shooter.

That still doesn't mean that Oswald acted alone, of course.

9 years later you're the fat kid with his face pressed against the window of The Industry. - crash
#187 by Dumdeedum
2003-12-12 20:55:45
http://www.dumdeedum.com
Oswald didn't act alone, he was doing it under orders from an enormous ball of pure evil.

Hey You! Don't watch that, watch this!  This is the heavy, heavy monster sound.
#188 by Jibble
2003-12-12 21:00:56
I think Scott Bakula might have been involved at one point too...

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#189 by Dumdeedum
2003-12-12 21:33:28
http://www.dumdeedum.com
That's Captain Sam Bakula to you.  Trapped in the series, he finds himself leaping from episode to episode, getting things wrong that could have been right and hoping each time, that his science officer will finally get naked.

Hey You! Don't watch that, watch this!  This is the heavy, heavy monster sound.
#190 by Duality
2003-12-12 22:32:41
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
No. But let's just say, to borrow a term from G-Man's profession, that I have a reasonable doubt in my mind that Oswald acted alone.

What set you off?  The magic bullet that pierces two men, traveling through the entire body of the second, or the sudden reversal of elementary physics proceeding the second (third?) shot?

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#191 by Trolly McTroll
2003-12-12 22:51:03
#175 mgns
JFK is a damn good film.


No it's not.

"..and Trolly McTroll is the best name EVER. I laugh every time I see it."  - ZEP
" If i ever have a daughter, I'm going to name her Trolly. - The_Joker
"I agree with Trolly. " - yotsuya
#192 by Trolly McTroll
2003-12-12 22:52:04
#181 yotsuya
Heh. I did a paper on the assassination in college, and did tons of research. Do I know who did it? No. But let's just say, to borrow a term from G-Man's profession, that I have a reasonable doubt in my mind that Oswald acted alone.


Oswald was a scapegoat.  Multiple people shot JFK.

"..and Trolly McTroll is the best name EVER. I laugh every time I see it."  - ZEP
" If i ever have a daughter, I'm going to name her Trolly. - The_Joker
"I agree with Trolly. " - yotsuya
#193 by Trolly McTroll
2003-12-12 22:53:58
#189 Dumdeedum
That's Captain Sam Bakula to you.  Trapped in the series, he finds himself leaping from episode to episode, getting things wrong that could have been right and hoping each time, that his science officer will finally get naked.



You mean the oriental chick or the Spock looking babe?

"..and Trolly McTroll is the best name EVER. I laugh every time I see it."  - ZEP
" If i ever have a daughter, I'm going to name her Trolly. - The_Joker
"I agree with Trolly. " - yotsuya
#194 by Jibble
2003-12-12 23:00:35
#175 mgns
JFK is a damn good film.

Back, and to the left.  Back...and to the left.  Back.......and to the left.


BACK...and to the left.  Back, and to the left.  Back...............

...



....



....


...

...and to the left.

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#195 by BobJustBob
2003-12-12 23:23:47
Oh no, Promopheus.

Prometheus!

Dood.
#196 by Jibble
2003-12-12 23:24:05
Fin.

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#197 by BobJustBob
2003-12-12 23:24:58
PENGUINS CAN'T FLY!

Dood.
#198 by Jibble
2003-12-12 23:26:53
AND HE'S BEEN DRINKING!

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#199 by BobJustBob
2003-12-12 23:29:06
SEND RUM

Dood.
#200 by BabiG
2003-12-13 00:14:41
That doesn't spell anything backwards at all.

"Ja! Mein Leapen!"
#201 by Bailey
2003-12-13 01:36:13
I'm not sending my rum anywhere but to the rum depository.

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#202 by Dethstryk
2003-12-13 01:45:06
jemartin@tcainternet.com
I hate that "back and to the left" thing because it's easily explained by physics if, you know, anyone took the damn time to look at it. It's possible for a head to snap backwards from a shot that came from behind, though it may require some critical thinking on one's part to figure it out.

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#203 by Duality
2003-12-13 03:36:54
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
Are you offering to be a test subject?

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