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The End of Hypochondria?
September 24th 2003, 11:16 CEST by Marsh Davies

Those unlucky enough to have hereditary susceptibility to illness might find themselves being turned down insurance, in a perturbing Gattaca-style drive towards genetic fingerprinting.

Yes, I know I sound like a hysterical tabloid scaremonger, but, as I discovered to my horror, insurance companies can already demand tests for Huntington’s disease, and have every intention of snooping for hereditary dispositions towards other illnesses too.

In fact, here is a very enlightening article from the Independent, all about it.

But, to be honest, I’m not interested in slapping the insurance companies’ wrists. It was pretty inevitable. What interests me is the social implications it will have on another curious phenomenon of our time – over-eager self-diagnosis. It may be because I’m a reasonably un-allergic, generally healthy chap. It may be because I’m an intolerable cunt. Who knows? But the fact is, I find the sudden increase in new illnesses to be slightly baffling, irritating, and remarkably faddish.

I know, I know, some of you pill-popping neurotic post-yuppy self-obsessives really do suffer from crippling ailments that prevent you from eating dairy-products, or root-vegetables, or breathing nitrogen, or enjoying life at all. But you must admit, that especially in the area of poorly-understood psychological welfare, the rise in diagnosable illness seems to be part and parcel in the increasing denial of responsibility. You’re not “rubbish at reading”, you are “dyslexic”; you’re not “a poorly behaved shit”, you’ve got “attention deficit disorder”; you’re not “smothered by over-bearing parents”, you’ve “got M.E”.

Please don’t think that I’m saying that the former of these perspectives is the right one. I’m just saying there has been a change in perspective. And suddenly, nothing’s anyone’s fault any more. And suddenly, it’s fashionable to be ill. And suddenly, cooking for people is real fucking pain in the ass, lest an errant particle of peanut accidentally causes guests to have spastic fits and swallow their own tongues. Look at the number of discussions we’ve had on here about the pills we take and what for. The ‘Crap may not be the epicentre of cool, but it certainly mirrors the trendy obsession with self-medication and self-diagnosis, if not a narcissistic desire for drama.

But with there now being an incentive to be as healthy as possible or otherwise being exiled into a genetic underclass, will this all change? Instead of sharing post-vicodin margarita chasers with friends, nibbling at a taste-free Atkins approved meal, and saying how wonderful it is you can now buy CFC free bananas because they used be just so terrible for your fragile complexion, will we be wrestling in our own faeces and eating worms just to prove how wonderfully tough our constitutions are?
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#1 by bago
2003-09-24 11:43:03
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Because we love to pay for things we know you're going to get....

#2 by Desiato
2003-09-24 11:44:12
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It stands to reason that any technology that allows insight into (read: increased accuracy in calculating mortality statistics) the many diseases afflicting humankind will be utilized rapidly. It's all about managing risk from a insuring perspective (via your example of dna-sampling), if they can get rid of those nastly 'outlier' events that cause expensive payouts (read: oh crap, we have to actually deliver on our contract), the more profitable they can be.

I don't see this being pushed back, they're already making inroads with genetics, why stop now? Particularly as the USA doesn't have the same privacy regs as the UK does.

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#3 by The_Joker
2003-09-24 11:47:41
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BORING

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#4 by Dethstryk
2003-09-24 11:47:47
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Insurance companies don't want to carry you if they think you are unhealthy, because they lose money that way. They are trying to widen what they call "unhealthy." Being depressed is one of them.

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#5 by The_Joker
2003-09-24 11:51:16
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THIS IS WHAT AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY LOOKS LIKE!
 
THESE ARE THE CONSEQUENCES, APART FROM MORE AIRPLANES FLYING INTO THEIR BUILDINGS IN THE NEAR FUTURE

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#6 by lwf
2003-09-24 11:53:46
What's an american?

everyone wants to be a perpetual motion machine
#7 by Dethstryk
2003-09-24 11:58:17
jemartin@tcainternet.com
And when the hell did we start a war on sex tourism?

sunny days have funny ways of quieting the roar
#8 by lwf
2003-09-24 12:01:56
And how did the banging of that chick play out for you Joke?

everyone wants to be a perpetual motion machine
#9 by bago
2003-09-24 12:11:33
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You've reached a strange point when the month of august kills more frenchmen (15k) than an entire invasion and occupation by the US can kill iraqis (11k).

#10 by None-1a
2003-09-24 12:26:59
I'd rather have the insurance companies milking it, at lest that way you have a chance of coming up clean (or with a high chance of a quick killing disorder in the case of health insurance). Better then every one being screwed by doctors turning it into an expensive but oh so critical it needs to be a standard for all patiences test in an effort to get big insurance payouts for themselves.

As for the self-treatment/fad disorder trend I can't really see this having much of an effect. Already high health care costs haven't encouraged people to stop. From a social stand point if having a disorder is hip, trying to prevent one you're genetically predisposed to would be the next best thing.
#11 by Marsh Davies
2003-09-24 13:11:33
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Desatio -

It's not just about insurance. Do you not think that genetic profiling as the basis of employment might become a strong possibility? Doesn't that give you the willies?

Maybe it's possible to introduce genetic profiling without creating a two tiered society, but I don't see any obvious solution. Is your stance that you think a Gattaca society would be supa-dupa, then? Personally, I fear being forced into a troglodyte genetic underclass, even if it does give me the excuse to eat nubile sacrificial offerings from the surface-dwellers.

#12 by lwf
2003-09-24 13:16:15
I think you mean nubile sexraficial offerings, rrrrowr.

everyone wants to be a perpetual motion machine
#13 by Chunkstyle
2003-09-24 13:44:58
Since the majority of the "universal health care" plans the US government has debated are based around requiring the employer to pay, there's no question we'll see employers doing genetic profiling.  As well as more ageism in hiring.

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#14 by Desiato
2003-09-24 14:34:03
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Marsh - Yeah, I suppose there is a bit of 'privacy creep' once something like DNA profiling is released into the wild. Imagine, not getting a job because of something physically you can't even try to change. That would really suck.

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#15 by Trolly McTroll
2003-09-24 15:25:03
Imagine, not getting a job because of something physically you can't even try to change. That would really suck.


It's happening now, you're just not told the real reason you didn't get the job after the blood, urine and physical tests many employers now require.  In fact, to get a job at 3DRealms, you have to be able to quote Army of Darkness in your sleep.

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#16 by Gunp01nt
2003-09-24 15:34:16
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#0
I’m just saying there has been a change in perspective. And suddenly, nothing’s anyone’s fault any more.


there's an ongoing rise in self-righteousness among people and two symptoms of that are 1. always knowing better than even an experienced medical doctor and 2. not wanting to get the feeling you're doing something wrong. Other exponents of this epidemic are the customers who have crowned themselves king and put the most ridiculous demands on store employees.

An example: some time ago I was on a train which had to wait at a station for some time because there was a group of troublemakers on board that had to be removed. it took the police and several train personnel (conductors) about 15 minutes to convince the troublemakers to take it easy and come with the police. When this was done the train personnel even apologized to the passengers over the intercom system in the train. but when a conductor walked into the compartment where I was, a couple of people started yelling and cussing at him because of the delay. The conductor argued that he couldn't help it, but the passengers kept yelling that they didn't care, they just wanted to get to their destination right on time and they didn't give a fuck about any problems the personnel might encounter underway.

This behavior stunned me, the sheer fucking arrogance which was obviously needed to display it... and it's becoming more and more common in society (at least in the Netherlands). It's the same kind of attitude that causes people to treat doctors like idiots because they've read something on the internet and now think they're more qualified than someone who's studied medicine for years.
I'm not sure if this is the direction Marsh is taking with his topic, there seem to be about three points in it, but this is my take on it.

Little things like the apocalyptic extinction of all human life tend to make nuclear war a tad less necessary.
#17 by UncleJeet
2003-09-24 15:35:49
That, and let George have the last doughnut....or fifty.

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#18 by LPMiller
2003-09-24 15:41:31
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But, to be honest, I’m not interested in slapping the insurance companies’ wrists. It was pretty inevitable. What interests me is the social implications it will have on another curious phenomenon of our time – over-eager self-diagnosis. It may be because I’m a reasonably un-allergic, generally healthy chap. It may be because I’m an intolerable cunt. Who knows? But the fact is, I find the sudden increase in new illnesses to be slightly baffling, irritating, and remarkably faddish.

I know, I know, some of you pill-popping neurotic post-yuppy self-obsessives really do suffer from crippling ailments that prevent you from eating dairy-products, or root-vegetables, or breathing nitrogen, or enjoying life at all. But you must admit, that especially in the area of poorly-understood psychological welfare, the rise in diagnosable illness seems to be part and parcel in the increasing denial of responsibility. You’re not “rubbish at reading”, you are “dyslexic”; you’re not “a poorly behaved shit”, you’ve got “attention deficit disorder”; you’re not “smothered by over-bearing parents”, you’ve “got M.E”.


Well, no.  I mean, you do have to take into account that we are just better at diagnosing things, and understanding root causes. It was not all that long ago - hell, back when I was a kid - when asthma was still considered "all in your head."

Not to say there aren't people who are nutjobs, or who are sick but make it out to be more than it is because they enjoy being a victim.  But I don't think there is more wrong with us now than way back when, I think we just have more names for things that were always wrong to begin with.

You mention being dyslexic in the same catagory as ADD, and I don't think that's fair at all. Of course, that's also pretty typical of someone who never has anything obviously wrong with them.  My brother is nearing 30 and still writes his letters backwards when he isn't paying attention - it's a pretty real thing, but unlike other real things, can actually be treated and dealt with.

My problem is how everything has to have a support group. I mean, I get mail bombed all the time because my name and my kids name is in the database for people who bleed, everyone wanting us to join a discussion group or meet with like people. Yeah, well fuck you. It's hardly all that big a deal. I take longer to clot, I don't need to revolve my life around it like that was all I was.  You know, when I was a kid with asthma attacks at the drop of a hat, that was different. My life DID revolve around allergens and weather and whatever else the fuck set me off. And it sucks.  I don't understand people who seem to....enjoy that. I hated it. I'm not going through that shit again just because shaving can suck.
It...it insults people that have problems that do require vigilance and care and constant watching when your problem is just not that big a deal, and yet you treat it like the end of the world.  Ooh, I got a nosebleed, time to call up my Bleeders Anon members.

Fuck that. If I get cancer, then call me.

I mean, I'm normal, healthy person with a couple of minor things I need to pay attention to if I ever get shot or fall into a vat of hairy cats.  I do not need to hold hands about it and sing poor me songs.  And I'll be good and fucked if I let my daugther go through that either.

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#19 by UncleJeet
2003-09-24 15:42:20
there's an ongoing rise in self-righteousness among people and two symptoms of that are 1. always knowing better than even an experienced medical doctor and 2. not wanting to get the feeling you're doing something wrong.
  And 3. Folks making definitive statements like this one, having studied the subject intensely for zero years.

Actually, I agree with you mostly, but I just couldn't let that go....

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#20 by deadlock
2003-09-24 15:45:29
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Gunpoint:

I've noticed - and bemoaned - the decreasing tendency of people to take responsibility for their own behaviour and problems, so it's not just something that's limited to the Netherlands.

"You know you are doing art when everyone has an opinion of what you're doing." - Lexx, creator of the supremely stupid Doom for Columbine mod.
#21 by UncleJeet
2003-09-24 15:46:49
I think some of this also has to do with a case of "I've never experience a real illness/disease/etc, so I couldn't possibly relate."  Just be careful how loudly you yell about sick folks, because I don't care how uber-cool-indestructible you think you are, in the end you're just young.  Time brings with it all sorts of surprises for you.

Immortality ends at 30.

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#22 by deadlock
2003-09-24 15:49:15
http://www.deadlocked.org/
increasing tendency of people to not take responsibility for their own behaviour and problems, rather.

You know, crap like, "I was dumb enough to walk on the railing, rather than the path, it's the City's fault I fell and broke my arm." Or, in the case of one unfortunate Irish bloke in Sydney, "I was stupid enough not to look before I leapt into shallow water, it's the City's fault I'm now paraplegic, gimme gimme gimme."

That said, when faced with the kind of medical, carer, and house-altering bills that that guy will have to pay for the rest of his life, I can understand why he'd be exploring every option.

"You know you are doing art when everyone has an opinion of what you're doing." - Lexx, creator of the supremely stupid Doom for Columbine mod.
#23 by Gunp01nt
2003-09-24 15:59:22
supersimon33@hotmail.com
jeet:
I think some of this also has to do with a case of "I've never experience a real illness/disease/etc, so I couldn't possibly relate."


not true. I've had several medical issues, but I just don't whine about it. I was born positively squint-eyed (panoramic vision, baby!). I've had my first surgery when I was barely three years old and wore glasses since I was two. Because of this I can't see depth and I used to have a lazy eye which meant eye drops every day and wearing one of those stupid plasters on your eye to train the other eye.

But I just don't like to bother other people with that, so just act as if you never read that, ok?

Little things like the apocalyptic extinction of all human life tend to make nuclear war a tad less necessary.
#24 by UncleJeet
2003-09-24 16:01:15
I thought we were talking about sickness and disease and such, and not stupid people spilling hot coffee on their laps and sueing for bazillions of dollars.

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#25 by UncleJeet
2003-09-24 16:02:32
Gunp01nt - I was directing that at Marsh from the original topic post itself.  Sorry for the conf00zle!

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#26 by Trolly McTroll
2003-09-24 16:19:43
/me mario slaps jeet for saying conf00zle.

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#27 by UncleJeet
2003-09-24 16:24:30
Well, at least it wasn't a butt stomp....

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#28 by deadlock
2003-09-24 16:33:27
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UncleJeet:

We (or rather, you lot) were, I was just responding to what Gunpoint said about modern life being rubbish.

"You know you are doing art when everyone has an opinion of what you're doing." - Lexx, creator of the supremely stupid Doom for Columbine mod.
#29 by UncleJeet
2003-09-24 16:40:59
Yeah, but I got to say conf00zle, so I'm happy.

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#30 by Caryn
2003-09-24 17:09:25
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
#18 LPMiller
Not to say there aren't people who are nutjobs, or who are sick but make it out to be more than it is because they enjoy being a victim.  But I don't think there is more wrong with us now than way back when, I think we just have more names for things that were always wrong to begin with.


I agree with you. But one thing that does bother me that's tangentially related, I think, to Marsh's original post is the tendency of the pharmaceutical industry to feed the self-diagnosis and paranoia behavior. Of course, they have a vested interest in doing so because they make money off of it. But goddamn, there's a pill being advertized for everything these days.

The Zoloft ads kill me. "Have you been feeling sad or not yourself for two weeks or more? Talk to your doctor about Zoloft." I'm sorry, but two weeks of feeling out of sorts and you should suddenly be taking a pill to make you happy? That sounds dangerously wacky to me.

Going back to LPMiller's point, I think that people's desire to congregate into groups that identify themselves with an illness stems from people's desire to belong to something. Our society here in the U.S. is increasingly homogeneous; people naturally want to belong to a group of like-minded people, and I think this is one way for people to do that. Are you white? Do you come from a normal family? Is your life relatively incident-free? Poor you; you have nothing to identify yourself with to make you stand out in a society that considers trauma a status elevator. But wait! You're allergic to gluten! That's great! Now you have something you can wear as a badge, and you can belong to a social group and feel that sense of community. (I exaggerated this quite a bit and don't honestly feel that everyone who's sick and likes to belong to groups to identify with that is like this, but I agree with LPMiller.)

And coming back to Marsh's original post, in a way I hope that this helps swing behavior back to a middle ground, where people stop looking for things to be wrong with them, and where the pharmaceutical industry stops instilling the need to be popping a pill, any pill. It won't, but it would be nice to see that change.

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#31 by Marsh Davies
2003-09-24 17:11:33
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LP -

Oh nos, of course I'm not saying that dyslexia doesn't exist. In the old days, you'd just get beaten round the head til you learnt yourself good. Now, you get extra time in exams. Of course, this is positive progress! My thrust was to relate this specific change in perception of individual responsibilty to a grander change in social thinking that, as gunpoint and deadlock have pointed, I think encompasses negative things like accident claims; even the McDonald's hot coffee incident.

#32 by Marsh Davies
2003-09-24 17:14:30
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Caryn:
Poor you; you have nothing to identify yourself with to make you stand out in a society that considers trauma a status elevator.


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#33 by yotsuya
2003-09-24 17:21:10
#32

But which of us would be Dirk Diggler?

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#34 by Greg
2003-09-24 17:35:28
I love the pill commercials. Most of the time the only thing they say is, "Don't you think it's time to ask your doctor about XenoPlaxicova?" They give no information on what the drug is about.

That said, at least they've started changing a bit and some commercials finally give the viewer a clue as to what the pill is for.

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#35 by Caryn
2003-09-24 17:40:03
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#34 Greg
I love the pill commercials. Most of the time the only thing they say is, "Don't you think it's time to ask your doctor about XenoPlaxicova?" They give no information on what the drug is about.


I never understood why they did this. Was there any particular reason? Because it bugged the hell out of me. Why the hell would I ask my doctor about a pill when I don't know what it's for?!

My battlecry: "Zang! Who is that, running on the fields! It is Hellchick, hands clutching buzzsaw hand extensions! She roars mightily: 'I'm going to brutalize you harder than God thought possible!!!'"
#36 by Warren Marshall
2003-09-24 17:40:27
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#34 Greg
I love the pill commercials. Most of the time the only thing they say is, "Don't you think it's time to ask your doctor about XenoPlaxicova?" They give no information on what the drug is about.

That said, at least they've started changing a bit and some commercials finally give the viewer a clue as to what the pill is for.

Yeah, that does actually remind me of one I've been seeing lately ... some girl and her boyfriend are out and about enjoying themselves and at the end the commercial says something about asking your doctor about the drug their pushing.

No idea what it is or even what it's supposed to be treating.

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#37 by CheesyPoof
2003-09-24 17:46:20
We are heading torwards a time where people will die sooner, at least in the US, not because we can't treat them, but because there's no one to pay for it.

"Don't you think it's time to ask your doctor about XenoPlaxicova?"

I want some!
#38 by LPMiller
2003-09-24 17:47:15
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Ugly couples. I think we can all agree if there is a pill for that, we need to start shoving down as many throats as possible.

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#39 by Squeaky
2003-09-24 17:53:32
#16 Gunp01nt
#0
I’m just saying there has been a change in perspective. And suddenly, nothing’s anyone’s fault any more.


there's an ongoing rise in self-righteousness among people and two symptoms of that are 1. always knowing better than even an experienced medical doctor and 2. not wanting to get the feeling you're doing something wrong. Other exponents of this epidemic are the customers who have crowned themselves king and put the most ridiculous demands on store employees.

An example: some time ago I was on a train which had to wait at a station for some time because there was a group of troublemakers on board that had to be removed. it took the police and several train personnel (conductors) about 15 minutes to convince the troublemakers to take it easy and come with the police. When this was done the train personnel even apologized to the passengers over the intercom system in the train. but when a conductor walked into the compartment where I was, a couple of people started yelling and cussing at him because of the delay. The conductor argued that he couldn't help it, but the passengers kept yelling that they didn't care, they just wanted to get to their destination right on time and they didn't give a fuck about any problems the personnel might encounter underway.

This behavior stunned me, the sheer fucking arrogance which was obviously needed to display it... and it's becoming more and more common in society (at least in the Netherlands). It's the same kind of attitude that causes people to treat doctors like idiots because they've read something on the internet and now think they're more qualified than someone who's studied medicine for years.
I'm not sure if this is the direction Marsh is taking with his topic, there seem to be about three points in it, but this is my take on it.

That's not just happening in the Nether-regions.

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#40 by Charles
2003-09-24 17:55:43
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I like Canada.

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#41 by Warren Marshall
2003-09-24 17:56:40
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
#40 Charles
I like Canada.

Why?

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#42 by Trolly McTroll
2003-09-24 18:02:45
Caryn: The Zoloft ads kill me. "Have you been feeling sad or not yourself for two weeks or more? Talk to your doctor about Zoloft." I'm sorry, but two weeks of feeling out of sorts and you should suddenly be taking a pill to make you happy? That sounds dangerously wacky to me.


In a society driven by greed, where the almighty dollar is the new god, unethical and immoral business types will drive over grandchildren in a hummer to make a buck.  


Most of the time the only thing they say is, "Don't you think it's time to ask your doctor about XenoPlaxicova?" They give no information on what the drug is about.


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#43 by Squeaky
2003-09-24 18:13:03
#35 Caryn
#34 Greg
I love the pill commercials. Most of the time the only thing they say is, "Don't you think it's time to ask your doctor about XenoPlaxicova?" They give no information on what the drug is about.


I never understood why they did this. Was there any particular reason? Because it bugged the hell out of me. Why the hell would I ask my doctor about a pill when I don't know what it's for?!

Because they're not allowed to.

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But I hear a tale
About a heaven in Alberta
Where they've got all hell for a basement
DVDs
#44 by Caryn
2003-09-24 18:17:19
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
#43 Squeaky
I never understood why they did this. Was there any particular reason? Because it bugged the hell out of me. Why the hell would I ask my doctor about a pill when I don't know what it's for?!

Because they're not allowed to.


Well, I figured that part out. But why? I don't understand the reasoning. It seems pretty silly to advertize a product when you're not allowed to tell people what it's for.

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#45 by Bailey
2003-09-24 18:21:16
I'm sure doctors just love people coming in to pester them with a notepad full of complex pill names that have no relevance on the patient's life. Let the doctors do the advertising!

And if an ad ever shows a happy couple, the medication is in some way associated with genitalia and genital interaction therein. Happy families are for birth control. You get the pattern.

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#46 by Warren Marshall
2003-09-24 18:22:35
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
"Genital interaction".  Awesome word use.

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#47 by Phayyde
2003-09-24 18:30:50
Uncle Jeet is the only one who is right in this thread.  

Mortality finally works you into his busy schedule somewhere after 30, usually.  You'll get to explore, firsthand, just how outrageously expensive modern American healthcare is.  And it won't be issues of poor vision, depression, gluten allergy or any of the other trivial shit silly people mewl about.  It will be the beginning of your death.  

It may hurt like hell, make you physically ugly, ruin your moods and it'll cost like a motherfucker.  It may cause divorce, your kids to rebel, your business to fail and your insurance to expire.  Things which now cause you joy will be taken away one at a time and you'll be left alone facing an impatient world which will then regard you as a burden.  This will be the ultimate humiliation.

Your only weapons are love and memory.  No respawns and no save anywhere. Good luck, all.

Beat to fit, paint to match.
#48 by UncleJeet
2003-09-24 18:30:57
Totally gnarly, dude!

I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
#49 by UncleJeet
2003-09-24 18:33:16
Phayyde
Uncle Jeet is the only one who is right in this thread.


Has anyone ever said that?  Ever?

*Taking the ground's temperature to see if Hell has actually frozen over....

I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
#50 by Desiato
2003-09-24 18:34:15
desiato_hotblack@hotmail.com http://www.spew2.com/
Yeah, those pill commercials are so surreal. It even irritates me more than other advertising because of the vague message, displayed in gaudy marketing colors of course.

'The Purple Pill'

Hey, that's just great - hope it works out for you and your goddamned purple pill of mystery.

Bastards.

Programmers are the new blue-collar workforce. Bangalore or bust! Viva global economy!
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