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Shadowbane Launched
March 27th 2003, 04:28 CET by Foodbunny

There's certainly no shortage of problems.  Starting off with how it was supposed to start yesterday, with Ubi inexplicably telling retailers not to start selling the game until today.

Other delightful Ubi-side screw-ups include:

1)  Their registration website is overload.  Massively overloaded.  Completely unable to handle anything near the amount of traffic it's seeing.  According to the guys from Wolfpack the site is registering about 15 people per minute when it's up.

2)  Their registration website is bugged.  Seriously bugged.  When you go to confirm your credit card information you will occasionally get someone else's name, billing address, and the last digits of their credit card number.  It's unknown if hitting confirm will register your confirmation code and preorder code to their account.

3)  Even if you manage to register with all the correct information, some people, after paying for 3+ months, are being told that their subscription has expired and being told to buy more time.

4)  Their customer service is hiding out back, hoping this will all go away.  Their billing customer service line was putting people in a 2-hour long queue and then hanging up on them until a few hours ago when they turned off the queue and are now skipping right to the hanging up part.

Of course, the publisher doesn't get to have all the fun.  If you manage to get through the registration, your credit card is accepted, your subscription is determined to be valid, and you haven't slit your wrists yet you get to patch.  Until just recently people were getting corrupt patches, a problem they claim to have fixed.

Once you manage to patch it's time to get through the Login Server of Cryptic Errors.  Anyone who beta tested will be quite familiar with how emotionally fragile the login servers are, and how apt they are to simply throw their hands in the air and dramatically refuse to log anyone in without telling anyone what's bothering them.  They go down a lot.  And if one goes down while you are trying to figure out character creation you get dumped back to the log in screen for another long wait.

At least the 300 people playing right now have yet to experience the Shadowbane lag.  But all things in good time.. towards the end of beta the server couldn't handle more than 1100 people per server before rubberbanding and spell lag made the game start to approach unplayable.  The game servers also had to be restarted on fairly regular basis because of a server-side memory leak (a lovely mirror to the client-side one) grinding everything down to a halt.  Oh, those newbies will love it when it takes them 5 minutes to open their bank.

Maybe it's a good thing no one can get in.  Beta testers had this build for all of one week, with Wolfpack ignoring bug reports and balance issues in favor of building their own cities, making level 100 characters, and killing everyone.  But what else should we expect from "Play 2 Crush"?
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#41 by snowcrash-22
2003-03-27 17:23:41
snowcrash22@excite.com
Have any of the companies which have actually released a MMOG gone out of business and shut down the servers?  Other than Meridian 59, which I thought was purchased and reopened.

With UO, Everquest and AC still chugging along, I am just curious if the lifecycle of one of these games have been chronicled, beginning to the bitter bitter end.
#42 by Chunkstyle
2003-03-27 17:32:10
Motor City Online died.  Earth and Beyond will probably be next.

We are the goon squad and we're coming to town.  Beep beep.
#43 by Chunkstyle
2003-03-27 17:34:14
Well, actually, it is dying.  I suppose you could still subscribe and watch it go.

We are the goon squad and we're coming to town.  Beep beep.
#44 by Matt Davis
2003-03-27 17:37:14
http://looroll.com
Surely Anarchy Online is next?

Troll, troll, troll your post, gently down the page...
#45 by Ashiran
2003-03-27 17:39:52
Whisp:
You're right, but that doesn't make it good.

You are right, it isn't good. But the fact remains that "The Foaming Flock™" only resorts to spamming forums with "YUO SUCK!" posts rather then doing the smart thing which is not p(l)aying at all.

The only thing companies listen to is the talk of money. Now that Ubisoft managed to pull off another AO. Publishers are going to do the exact same thing with future MMOG releases. I mean what does it hurt? People won't p(l)ay? !quote 24

I'm sorry, but while Ubisoft is being very naughty, I still largely blame the rabid sheep. Especially cause they could know this was going to happen.

#35 not about your opinion in any case.

People who need to restate over and over again how much they not care are...

#46 by Chunkstyle
2003-03-27 17:44:01
Actually, Anarchy Online fixed most of the game-killing problems, and last month reactivated all old accounts for a month, to give everyone a look.  Their numbers will actually be up for a little while.  Until Star Wars kills them, at least.

We are the goon squad and we're coming to town.  Beep beep.
#47 by "Balderama"
2003-03-27 17:54:36
support@real.com www.planetcrap.com
Movie of american killed soldiers
Movie of american killed soldiers

THIS IS WHAT WAR LOOKS LIKE, YOU STUPID AMERICAN FUCKS
#48 by "Balderama"
2003-03-27 17:57:10
support@real.com www.planetcrap.com
Babies and children who have been \"mutated\" because of the economic embargo placed on Iraq
#49 by Warren Marshall
2003-03-27 17:58:28
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
What?
#50 by Chunkstyle
2003-03-27 17:59:01
Baldy, are those links supposed to make us want to keep Sadaam in power?  I don't think they're working.

We are the goon squad and we're coming to town.  Beep beep.
#51 by LPMiller
2003-03-27 17:59:59
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
And if can't trust the Iraq embassy, who can you trust? I mean, we all know a lack of food causes genetic mutations, which is why dieting is so popular.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#52 by Trolly McTroll
2003-03-27 18:23:24
And this makes us want to keep Saddam in power how?

"..and Trolly McTroll is the best name EVER. I laugh every time I see it."  - Wudi
" If i ever have a daughter, I'm going to name her Trolly. - The_Joker
#53 by LPMiller
2003-03-27 18:28:30
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
In the hopes that eventually, he'll create the X-men.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#54 by Darkseid-D
2003-03-27 18:38:07
rogerboal@hotmail.com
Multiplayer Battletech 3029 never made it out of beta before EA killed it, which is a freaking shame as it was tremedously good fun.  Fun enough that several thousand people signed up for pay to beta accounts (they got refunded ok), kinda hoped someone had gotten the binarys and leaked them so we could set up private servers.

Oh well.

Do not go gently into that good night.
Old age should burn and rage at the close of day.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
#55 by Leslie Nassar
2003-03-27 18:39:42
http://departmentofinternets.com
USA! USA! USA!

obdisclaimer:  i love america!
#56 by Neale
2003-03-27 19:10:02
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
Darkseid:

I played that for a while. It was damn good fun.

You can't derail this train of idiocy, Shadarr. Not even with a big fat cow of logic on the tracks. - Bailey
#57 by LPMiller
2003-03-27 19:33:51
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
Leslie, I'm just not feeling the bitterness or bile from you of late. I need you to step up here and start bringing your game.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#58 by Leslie Nassar
2003-03-27 19:42:59
http://departmentofinternets.com
i'm just here supporting our troops.  in times of war, it's ones duty to support ones head of state, whether that be the queen, or the prime minister, or the president.  my country, right or wrong.

obdisclaimer:  i love america!
#59 by Leslie Nassar
2003-03-27 19:43:21
http://departmentofinternets.com
ps. USA!  USA!  USA!

obdisclaimer:  i love america!
#60 by Chunkstyle
2003-03-27 19:43:50
Can someone call Lassie?  I've fallen in a sarchasm.

We are the goon squad and we're coming to town.  Beep beep.
#61 by mrbloo
2003-03-27 19:46:58
mrbloo2000@hotmail.com
Heh, that Ted Rall cartoon is my backdrop at the moment.  "United We Stand!"  "Proud to be German!"
#62 by jjohnsen
2003-03-27 19:47:10
http://www.johnsenclan.com
In case you can't tell, Leslie is still deciding whether he supports the war or not.

I always thought democracy looked more like a drunk frat boy being anally raped by vikings.
-LP
#63 by LPMiller
2003-03-27 19:55:03
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
i'm just here supporting our troops.  in times of war, it's ones duty to support ones head of state, whether that be the queen, or the prime minister, or the president.  my country, right or wrong.


I could be wrong, but no one here has even implied that - not even bago.

Personally, I can hold more than one thought it my head - I never did get the match up between supporting troops and supporting war. These guys volunteer to defend their country, it's not their fault President Bush likes big noises.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#64 by Shadarr
2003-03-27 19:55:30
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I don't understand why anyone would want to play Shadowbane.  Not only is the word synonymous with fuck-up, it doesn't have any compelling features that would make the game fun once the stability issues get sorted.  Are there really that many masochists out there?
#65 by crapmaster
2003-03-27 20:00:00
starsiege28@yahoo.com n/a
To Balderama:

Who are you to say we are stupid.  Imagine the worst americans have done in our history and multiply it by ten and that is what saddam and his regime do every day to innocent iraqis.

Comedy kicks ass
#66 by AnalFissure
2003-03-27 20:08:20
Just came across an interesting link.

It's an interesting discussion that took place on an Irish radio station not too long ago. Scott Ritter (the ex-weapons inspector) and an Iraqi expatriate have an argument over what's currently going on over there, and a few Irish news people discuss the quality of the news coverage we've been seeing.
#67 by mrbloo
2003-03-27 20:33:51
mrbloo2000@hotmail.com
To crapmaster:

You don't have a very good grasp of American history.  You'll need to go back over a hundred years for the really juicy stuff (slavery, genocide, bloody civil war).  You should probably amend your statement to say, "Imagine the worst that Americans have done during Saddam's reign [etc.]"
#68 by Shadarr
2003-03-27 20:35:22
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Not quite so far back, but the US did drop a nuclear bomb on a city.  I guarantee you Saddam isn't doing that 10 times a day.
#69 by Trolly McTroll
2003-03-27 20:39:03
not yet

"..and Trolly McTroll is the best name EVER. I laugh every time I see it."  - Wudi
" If i ever have a daughter, I'm going to name her Trolly. - The_Joker
#70 by AnalFissure
2003-03-27 20:40:16
I should just say, if anyone out there doesn't want to listen to that clip I posted in its entirety, the main exchange between the Iraqi and Ritter is at about 23:00 minutes.
#71 by Leslie Nassar
2003-03-27 20:42:40
http://departmentofinternets.com
Personally, I can hold more than one thought it my head

i can't, so i vacillate on issues.  that way, i get to see it from multiple angles and keep my many enemies on their toes.

obdisclaimer:  i love america!
#72 by LPMiller
2003-03-27 20:46:07
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
Your way sounds more fun.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#73 by mrbloo
2003-03-27 20:48:16
mrbloo2000@hotmail.com
Yeah, but the two atomic bombs were during a real, god-fearing WAR.  The Vietnam police action was pretty good for random, indiscrimate deaths as well.  America's been pretty well behaved in the last twenty years, only invading about four countries so far.  The real dirty stuff in US history is the treatment of blacks and indians*.  Thank god segregation ended in the 60s. eh? :)

* Australia's treatment of aborigines is ever stranger.  Watch the movie Rabbit-proof Fence for some oddness.  Then go and see what year aborigines were actually counted on the Oz census (before 19xx, they were counted in the 'flora and fauna' category - the xx is a bit of a shock).

Every country has skeletons in the cupboard.  Iraq's are nice and recent, and the person responsible is still in charge, which is nice and handy.  If you're talking ancient history, Britain used mustard gas when 'liberating' Mesopotamia (Iraq) in the 1920s.
#74 by Shadarr
2003-03-27 20:52:02
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Hey, the British gave native people blankets infected with smallpox when they came to Canada.  Top that Saddam, you sissy.
#75 by Leslie Nassar
2003-03-27 20:52:41
http://departmentofinternets.com
mrbloo:  want some horrific australian history?  see if you can find out why there are no aboriginies in tasmania.

obdisclaimer:  i love america!
#76 by LPMiller
2003-03-27 20:55:03
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
I think it's nice that Brits and Americans can get together for this new skelleton in the making. After all those years of doing to each other, it's kinda like a duet with Eminem and Moby.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#77 by chris
2003-03-27 20:56:38
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
wait, wait... you mean the human race's entire history is pretty much nothing but a list of atrocities committed against one another? Who would've thought?!?

-chris
#78 by LPMiller
2003-03-27 20:57:10
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
You're forgetting the wheel, electricity, and pie.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#79 by Shadarr
2003-03-27 20:59:02
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
The most concise definition of history is "one damn thing after another".
#80 by Hugin
2003-03-27 21:01:56
lmccain@nber.org
MP Battletech 3029 was great fun, I agree. I miss my Urbie.  No one respected it till it blew their head off.
#81 by mrbloo
2003-03-27 21:11:32
mrbloo2000@hotmail.com
Leslie,  I took a wild guess and reckoned they were massacred as part of an attempt to return Austalia back to a terra nullius, a land devoid of people, darkies aside.  While secretly hoping that they had simply been moved to Madagascar, I discovered that they had just been massacred after all.  

From here
In retaliation for the spearing of livestock, Aboriginal children were abducted for use in forced labour, women were raped and tortured and given poisoned flour, and the men were shot. They were systematically disposed of in ones, twos and threes, or in dozens, rather than in one systematic massacre.


At least Australia gave them the vote... in 1967.
#82 by The_Joker
2003-03-27 21:13:35
http://www.jackinworld.com
Those videos are horrible. How do you think the other POWs feel seeing their teammates lie there like that, with bulletholes in their heads etc? The world is a really horrible place to be. And people are afraid to die and go to hell. If you ask me, we're living hell right now.

The only things good I can think of right now on this planet are girlies, love and wanking. And ofcourse technology. The rest is all crap.

Oh, and ice cream.

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration.
"I fart in THX." - Sgt_Hulka

PENETRATOR: Rise of the Wang Cuming "When it's done".
#83 by mrbloo
2003-03-27 21:14:33
mrbloo2000@hotmail.com
chris,

wait, wait... you mean the human race's entire history is pretty much nothing but a list of atrocities committed against one another? Who would've thought?!?


I've a feeling the history books aren't going to conside the late twentieth century as being any different from the centuries that preceded it.  We just happen to think the world is a more civilised place now.  Probably because of electricity and pie.
#84 by Shadarr
2003-03-27 21:19:25
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
One pie here makes up for a lot of death and suffering over there.
#85 by Chunkstyle
2003-03-27 21:20:06
The circle of life.

We are the goon squad and we're coming to town.  Beep beep.
#86 by Eric T. Cheng
2003-03-27 21:20:39
erictcheng@hotmail.com
So where do we get baby oil from...?

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#87 by CheesyPoof
2003-03-27 21:23:04
Not quite so far back, but the US did drop a nuclear bomb on a city.

Anyone that argues that dropping the bomb 'wrong no matter what,' given the time and conditions is an ass.

Re: Indians.  What this country did to them is terrible, and I don't mind letting them get a little even by opening up as many casino's as possible to rob the white man blind, but a lot more Indians were killed by diseases introduced by Europeans that by bullets.  

I took a course on Indian culture in college, and IIRC what's interesting about them is that their 'golden age' was spurred on by Europeans.  It seems that they didn't ride horses until they saw the settlers do it.
#88 by mrbloo
2003-03-27 21:25:02
mrbloo2000@hotmail.com
It's hard to ride an animal that doesn't exist on your continent.
#89 by CheesyPoof
2003-03-27 21:25:06
At least Australia gave them the vote... in 1967.

And m0nty has the gall to rail against the US for what they had done prior to then!  M0nty you troll.
#90 by Shadarr
2003-03-27 21:31:26
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Anyone that argues that dropping the bomb 'wrong no matter what,' given the time and conditions is an ass.


It probably took more effort for you to not quote my second sentence.  Your dedication to undermining context and putting words in my mouth is commendable.
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