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Shadowbane loves your money...but only in advance.
July 26th 2002, 09:39 CEST by Matt Perkins

As see on Warcry, if you don't pre-order Shadowbane, you can't play 3 of the races in the game at the launch.

Yes, the pre-order CD contain a code which will unlock restricted races (all three).

This has to be the worst marketing ploy I've heard of.  If they release a patch near the release of the game, it won't be so bad, but at release I'm going to look at the Shadowbane box and think, "Hey, they are fucking me over if I buy this box, why do I want to?".

This method of marketing may be great for counting your chickens before the launch, but it's really saying, "you aren't hardcore enough to earn our respect, so, average joe, get screwed and don't even know it".  Especially if they make you wait awhile after release.  And if they don't, there will have been no reason to pre-order.  This stinks of some marketing genius that was taking a hit off the crack pipe when they though this up.
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#93 by Morn
2002-07-27 21:12:41
morn@planetcrap.com http://hmans.net
Blatant hijack: the Paypal buttons are back, up near the menu. This is a bank robbery!

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I hope nobody will sue me: C R A P R A D I O | last 10 songs
#94 by Morn
2002-07-27 21:13:37
morn@planetcrap.com http://hmans.net
:)

Hendrik "Morn" Mans • morn@planetcrap.com • admin/coder/lover/kraut
I hope nobody will sue me: C R A P R A D I O | last 10 songs
#95 by jjohnsen
2002-07-27 21:49:16
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Can I be a mormon, but not in marketing?  I don't have the experience for the later.

No longer must I sweep for you, for I am not your broom.
#96 by jjohnsen
2002-07-27 21:50:22
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Morn, explain the difference between the donate and subscribe again?

No longer must I sweep for you, for I am not your broom.
#97 by PogoTribal
2002-07-27 22:12:35
WeeMadArthur #78
Luksusowa sux0rz...

Not down with luxury potato vodka?

Love... biochemically related to consuming large quantities of chocolate.
#98 by Warren Marshall
2002-07-27 22:31:38
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
jjohnsen

donate = one time, subscribe = recurring.

"It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
#99 by Bailey
2002-07-27 23:13:12
Cliff

does your sig refer to fancy underwear polygamists or idiots in general?

In general.

jjohnsen

Can I be a mormon, but not in marketing?  I don't have the experience for the later.

I'm sure Scott Miller can recommend some excellent correspondence marketing schools.

I cannot tell if everyone in marketing is a polished, professional mormon, or just super-high on the coke dust.
#100 by Charles
2002-07-27 23:53:14
www.bluh.org
I subscribed, and payed back through march, which is basically how long I've been wasting my time at this site.

We're not "Whinny," either,  "Looser".
  -MCorleone
#101 by bago
2002-07-28 03:30:47
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
It's saturday evenong, a bad time to forget how to spell good polish vodka, but I think it's something along the lines of kroleska. The stuff with the stained glass window bottle.

iamelectro
#102 by Warren Marshall
2002-07-28 03:49:40
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
Drunk, alone, in your underwear, posting on PlanetCrap ... life just doesn't get any better.

"It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
#103 by Charles
2002-07-28 03:53:27
www.bluh.org
Wait... what if you are drunk, alone, in your underwear, and posting on PlanetCrap... at work!

That's better... right?

We're not "Whinny," either,  "Looser".
  -MCorleone
#104 by zarathustra
2002-07-28 03:55:39
anti_kre8er@yahoo.com
check it out

http://sbvault.ign.com/

moronic internet rumors are just that
#105 by zarathustra
2002-07-28 03:56:53
anti_kre8er@yahoo.com
dammit
#106 by jjohnsen
2002-07-28 03:57:29
http://www.johnsenclan.com
I paid your filthy lucre Morn!  And I still think t-shirts would be cool.

No longer must I sweep for you, for I am not your broom.
#107 by jjohnsen
2002-07-28 03:58:03
http://www.johnsenclan.com
What exactly are we looking at zarathustra, so I don't have to read the whole site?

No longer must I sweep for you, for I am not your broom.
#108 by zarathustra
2002-07-28 03:59:13
anti_kre8er@yahoo.com
third times the charm
#109 by zarathustra
2002-07-28 03:59:34
anti_kre8er@yahoo.com
posted the wrong link sorry
#110 by zarathustra
2002-07-28 04:00:09
anti_kre8er@yahoo.com
its the front page about the topic...you know the big post at the top
#111 by jjohnsen
2002-07-28 04:04:34
http://www.johnsenclan.com
IT sounds like a pre-order, but you get something tangible to play with for a while.

No longer must I sweep for you, for I am not your broom.
#112 by zarathustra
2002-07-28 04:08:17
anti_kre8er@yahoo.com
its a promo cd they sell, but the price is reduced from the game...
#113 by bago
2002-07-28 04:56:51
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
my office smells like teriyaki

iamelectro
#114 by Bailey
2002-07-28 04:59:32
Having a very hard time caring about the clearing up of the SB issue.

I cannot tell if everyone in marketing is a polished, professional mormon, or just super-high on the coke dust.
#115 by LoneStar
2002-07-28 07:22:51
cwcraig64@hotmail.com
Mmmmmmm...Planetcrap t-shirts

Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one
#116 by Morn
2002-07-28 09:26:47
morn@planetcrap.com http://hmans.net
I still want to make PC T-Shirts, but I do not want to use CafePress for that. Any recommendations?

Hendrik "Morn" Mans • morn@planetcrap.com • admin/coder/lover/kraut
I hope nobody will sue me: C R A P R A D I O | last 10 songs
#117 by Squeaky
2002-07-28 09:31:58
interesting

Some people have way too much time on their hands

Understand? Good. Play! -- Hatsumi-Sensei
#118 by EricFate
2002-07-28 10:27:03
Gameskins?  They've done a few of the other webcentric shirts.
#119 by Terata
2002-07-28 10:53:51
Gameskins does really nice shirts.  Heavy and durable.
#120 by m0nty
2002-07-28 10:55:32
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Hey Morn, how about you design a T-shirt, let us download the graphics, and go through the hassle ourselves of printing our own damn T-shirts on our own damn time?

Oh wait, then you don't get any money. Forget that then.
#121 by Charles
2002-07-28 11:03:07
www.bluh.org
Morn, just make sure one of the tshirt styles is black, so it can fit in to my Bailey-Approved NuMetal look.

We're not "Whinny," either,  "Looser".
  -MCorleone
#122 by Bailey
2002-07-28 11:34:07
I have never approved of NuMetal. Or you. But mostly the NuMetal is facing disapproval.

I cannot tell if everyone in marketing is a polished, professional mormon, or just super-high on the coke dust.
#123 by chris
2002-07-28 11:40:40
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
I donated... and I'd buy a t-shirt if it was black or white. Though I probably wouldn't wear it, since I don't typically wear shirts with writing on them.

But I'd buy it!

-chris
#124 by Warren Marshall
2002-07-28 14:16:52
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
Gameskins does really nice shirts.  Heavy and durable.

I'll throw in a vote for GameSkins as well ... Every shirt I've bought from them has been well made and lasted a long time.

"It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
#125 by Duality
2002-07-28 14:44:07
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
GameSkins is the new newegg.

So, yes.

-Jon
The secret ingredient is evil.
#126 by Ashiran
2002-07-28 14:49:38
I want a sleaveless shirt!

"Durr, bluh, shoving mini-snickers in my mouth as fast as mom can buy them." - Bailey
#127 by jjohnsen
2002-07-28 15:25:24
http://www.johnsenclan.com
I've only bought one shirt from gameskins, but definately better than cafepress.  I know I'm in the minority here, but maybe dark blue or white?

No longer must I sweep for you, for I am not your broom.
#128 by Warren Marshall
2002-07-28 15:55:02
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
Black.  Like PC's soul ...

"It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
#129 by Greg
2002-07-28 16:32:29
Yes! PC Wifebeaters will be all the rage! Or something...

Who is driving car?! Oh my god, bear is driving car! How can that be?
#130 by Matthew Gallant
2002-07-28 17:06:08
http://www.truemeaningoflife.com
Shouldn't it be gray, you know, like the website?

Current market value of the Max Payne IP according to a comparison of the market capitalization of Take Two pre- and post- sale: approx. -$260,000,000.
#131 by Caryn
2002-07-28 17:29:22
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
I vote for a girly T-shirt option -- the smaller shaped kind -- since men's t-shirts look terrible on me. I'd buy it!

"I can't drink POSSIBLE beers! I need ACTUAL beers! Damn you quantum physics!"
#132 by Sgt Hulka
2002-07-28 17:36:04
#68 Warren Marshall  "I know a guy who worked in budget software and although the deadlines are ruthless, you can make a living at it if you can keep to your schedules."


I've done freelance work for a budget software factory.  It's not pretty. This place reminded me of what it's probably like to work making dresses and slacks for Kathy Lee Gifford in Singapore sweatshops.  

Yes, these people made a living. If you can really call that living.

Everything I need to know about life I learned from Bon Jovi songs
#133 by Leslie Nassar
2002-07-28 18:08:34
http://departmentofinternets.com
2 SWM idea men seeking programmers, artists, level designers, and producers.

i like monkeys.  are you a monkey?
#134 by Leslie Nassar
2002-07-28 18:10:25
http://departmentofinternets.com
American McGee's Dave Taylor presents American McGee's X-Box Shooter

i like monkeys.  are you a monkey?
#135 by Warren Marshall
2002-07-28 19:30:33
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
A black t-shirt with the logo at the top of the page plastered on the front would quickly become my favorite shirt.

"It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
#136 by Bailey
2002-07-28 19:31:09
Greg

I'm totally supportive of the wifebeater angle. I know I love mine. And if you give me any sass while there's still no hot dinner on the table, I'll give you five across the eyes!

Caryn

Babydoll?

I cannot tell if everyone in marketing is a polished, professional mormon, or just super-high on the coke dust.
#137 by Duality
2002-07-28 19:39:52
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
Don't you threaten anyone with fist-shaped tile!

How about ... multiple tshirts?  Yah know, because choice is a good thing.  And I'm not a fan of black shirts.  The darker grey would be cool, though no decapitated bronto.  I would like to wear the shirt to work.

A golf shirt would be cool too.  I don't have nearly enough dress casual gaming related apparel (such as the Q3 Rocket Arena polo shirt).

-Jon
The secret ingredient is evil.
#138 by jjohnsen
2002-07-28 20:19:16
http://www.johnsenclan.com
I vote for a girly T-shirt option -- the smaller shaped kind -- since men's t-shirts look terrible on me. I'd buy it!


Hell, offer a girly version and a toddler version and I'll outfit the whole family.

No longer must I sweep for you, for I am not your broom.
#139 by Darkseid-D
2002-07-28 22:25:06
rogerboal@hotmail.com
I dont mind what colour/logo is on it, as long as its available in 4xl or 5xl


Ds

Never argue with an idiot, theyll drag you down onto their level, then beat you with experience.
#140 by Sister Love
2002-07-28 22:25:28
corporate_misconduct@yahoo.com http://www.3drealms.com
American McGee's Xbox

I am all the love you'll ever need.. SUCKA!
#141 by zarathustra
2002-07-28 22:26:40
anti_kre8er@yahoo.com
my girlfriend bought Mcgee's alice, it was shit.
#142 by Your Friend
2002-07-28 22:31:50
I liked Alice.  Quite a bit.
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