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Digital Fight Club, or Deathmatch for the new millenium?
March 15th 2002, 10:30 CET by Duality You stand before the steel box. Clenching the small knob between your thumb and forefinger, and placing your left hand on the cold, metallic plate. But it won't be cold for long. This will be the most intense game you've ever faced. Not only is your pride on the line, but so are your nerves, and perhaps the skin on your palm. And you thought pong was easy. But you love it. At least, that's what the makers of The Painstation think you'll feel. After months of the seemingly silent disappearance of Mad Catz' BioForce Controller, the first controller to provide a player with small electronic shocks to allow feeling the game; the Painstation enters. It promises to be "the prophet of a future, not necessarily peaceful, but more-efficient-civilisation." From the description doc: The painstation is an arcade cabinet. The opponents stand facing each other. The duel is based on pong, the well known game of console tennis from the early days. The instructions are easily explained: The player's right hand uses a knob to control his pad. The left hand has to remain on the PEU (Pain-Execution-Unit), so it creates an electric circuit. The game can start. Moving the paddle vertically the ball must be subtley returned into the opponent's direction. If a player misses the ball, it's not only annoying, but also painful. This slip causes massive anguish. How massive depends on which PIS (Pain-Inflictor-Symbol) the lost ball hits: heat, lashes, or electric shocks all of different duration and torrment the left hand (the new name of 'pang' comes to the authors' minds). In case one of the competitors lifts his hand off the PEU -- either out of pain overload or he blacks out -- he loses the duel. And sorry to say, he has to bear the "loser's brunt." The winner gets it all: the respect, the booze, and the sexual attention. The next time someone urges you politely to choose the weapon, choose the painstation. Tilman Reiff, one of the inventors swears that, "for those who don't mind a bit of pain, they usually find it extremely addictive." In the same article, stating that, "When you're playing in public against a friend with people cheering you on, it's very hard to throw in the towel without putting up a good fight. I've seen people leave the table with blood on their hands and their skin completely raw because they didn't want to back down in front of an audience." Likewise, their next project is said to be a high-tech punchingbag with multiplayer applications. Is there really a chance violent gaming will take a turn for the real in the future? And will the public enjoy it? |
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Shit. I was hoping Bailey wouldn't catch that DrowDoll. Humanity has just lost another 5 points. Contrary to popular belief, not all forms of ignorance are bliss
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Woah, mechanical bulls were just a fad? Wait....I live in Texas. Funny how that always explains sooooo much. I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
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$6000 (plus shipping) could get you a lot of hookers and porn. If you played it right, it could even get you a gold-digging girlfriend (for a while). yeah but I think the whole point of the realdoll is having a sex toy that doesn't talk back but DOES provide you with a 'hands-on' experience... ...AND doesn't leak like an inflatable doll (all those patches are a real turnoff!! :P) but it is fairly pathetic though "I'm not sleeping with a junior high-schooler, I have a life sized doll that looks just like one."
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The really sad ones are the people who buy multiple RealDolls and make them their family. And take lots of pictures of the dolls playing together in the pool and around the house. And, of course, put them up on their websites. "Our busts get bigger and bigger because they're bursting with great expectations for the future! The he`t`nd p`rrhnn vd hnid in our chests is called life!"
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Like these people. Who you should not look at if you happen to be at work. "Our busts get bigger and bigger because they're bursting with great expectations for the future! The he`t`nd p`rrhnn vd hnid in our chests is called life!"
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Foodbunny: Hot 4-way doll lesbian action. Now I have seen it all. Thank you. Arizona Diamondbacks 2001 World Series Champions
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Jeez. One guy there has 6 (SIX) dolls! Me, I collect stamps. Arizona Diamondbacks 2001 World Series Champions
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I think we should start a PayPal Donate fund to buy one of these things for the Joker. What do you think? Joker, would you use one of these? Arizona Diamondbacks 2001 World Series Champions
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Oh woe is me, for I am not going to be home to later tonite ... so I cannot see it! uNF!
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While we are on the subject: Someone who needs a RealDoll! Arizona Diamondbacks 2001 World Series Champions
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Yotsuya For crying out loud man, STOP READING THE SITE. MCorleone Shit. I was hoping Bailey wouldn't catch that DrowDoll. Humanity has just lost another 5 points. By my calculations, humanity's score is so deep into the negatives as is, 5 points for a drowdoll ain't but a sad-ass lonely drop in the bucket. The she-male doll, on the other hand, requires napalm. Lots of napalm. I was bitter and cynical before it was cool.
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Far be it for me to try and hijack my own thread ... but does anyone know of a site to get A/V cables? I've only ever used a coaxial connection so I'm unfamiliar with whatever else there is (RCA are the white/red/yellow cables, right?). Basically, I need to be able to hook up a PS2, a laptop, and a VCR to a TV that I'm resuming won't have an S-Video jack. I probably won't mind swapping out cables, either. uNF!
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Didn't the last Bond film with Sean Connery, Never Say Never Again, have a similar game? It was called World Domination or something and involved shooting missiles at enemy countries. The more countries you lost, the more pain you felt. Connery won, of course. |
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I was looking at those real dolls and thinking....damn, I could kill of a hell of a lot a kittens. The Suns rays are made up of many atoms.
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Everyone remember those Blacksnow guys who were sueing Mythic? Well that ain't the half of it. That link takes you to a world of more litigation, this time against Funcom. Along with emails from Andre Backen, (President, Funcom) April Jones, (head of US Public Relations, Funcom) Mark Jacobs, (President, Mythic Entertainment). Not to mention IRC logs between Adam Young, (Lead Database Admin/Engineer, Funcom) Lee Caldwell, (Director of Sales, BlackSnow) and "Wes" (Programmer, BlackSnow) which involve Blacksnow attmepting to bribe Adam (Funcom employee) to the tune of $6000 if he helps them behind the scenes and keeps them below Funcom's radar. I'm not sure where this thing is going but it looks like a train wreck to me. |
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Post-it: Good Lord!!! The Suns rays are made up of many atoms.
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W00t! The Halcyon days of the great ICQ-log posting are back! /me rips open a bag of marshmallows. Contrary to popular belief, not all forms of ignorance are bliss
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Thread hijack! Oh well, it's a more interesting topic. I find it interesting that Blacksnow is trying to play their litigations with one company off against another in an attempt to basically blackmail them in to caving. Bad mojo. |
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Nova_Z: And after they are done with the little guys, go after the big guns: Sony and Microsoft. Greg
-Swallow it all and be glad, for a shilling I've paid and a shilling's worth I'll be having! |
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I'm simply amazed at how AO's admin was being with Caldwell! That doesn't look good upon AO or BlackSnow, to be honest. uNF!
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Oh well, it's a more interesting topic. I find it interesting that Blacksnow is trying to play their litigations with one company off against another in an attempt to basically blackmail them in to caving. What I find even more interesting is they acctauly found a law firm to take the case. I can just imagine how that talk went. lawyer: So as I understand it you want to sue both Mythic Entertainment and Funcom for banning your accounts. moron: yeah that about covers it. lawyer: Ok so do you have a copy of their aup, toc, or any thing? moron: sure right here. lawyer: ok so your actions in the game where rather clear violations of these rules here, yet to still want to do this? moron: sure that's not a problem is it? lawyer: o no we'll take the case and make our firm look like a bunch of idiots, not like I enjoyed my job anyway. |
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Enough about games, back to Realdolls. Anyone remember back when Realdolls first came out, as a marketing gimmick they were selling "Booby Balls" for like $10? They were like actual Realdoll breasts, formed into the shape of a ball with a nipple. What I wouldn't give for a roomful of Booby Balls. -max
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And the weirdest thing to me about those logs was that Lee Caldwell from Blacksnow himself sent them to the site. Why on earth would he do that when the logs paint him as the bigger bad guy here? Is he just not the sharpest tool in the box...? "When I'm old, I don't want them to say of me, 'she's so charming.' I want them to say, 'be careful, I think she's armed.'" - G. Stoddart
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Didn't anyone catch the interesting part? The amount of the bribe? Maybe he wants to buy 300 dvds or... God is dead. --Nietzsche, 1883
Nietzsche is dead. --God, 1900 |
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That was weird to me too Caryn. It's the one part I don't get. Why would he openly admit to attempted bribery of a company employee? It's just stupid. Maybe he didn't realize that was in there, I don't know. |
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just more proof backing the supposition that these games are administered by children. if this Adam guy has a job at the end of day today... good lord. and these logs and "evidence" just about killed BlackSnow's chances at anything remotely resembling a victory. "Oh, yeah, we routinely violate the terms of service/code of conduct in pursuit of money. It's our RIGHT!" fuck you, fellas. hope you have to sell everything you own to pay the legal fees. - if you can laugh at it, you can live with it.
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and a sad aside: why is it always fan sites that break stories like these? wait. don't answer that one. i'm depressed enough already, and i think i know the answer. - if you can laugh at it, you can live with it.
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crash i think i know the answer I don't. Funk. |
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I thought they were all ... more or less ... fan sites? Were you expecting CNN to break the story? uNF!
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I'm not sure what is so wrong with a fan site breaking the story...and as they go, this one is pretty decent. The Suns rays are made up of many atoms.
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Duality: Were you expecting CNN to break the story? no. but aren't there gaming sites out there with people on the payroll--getting paid, y'know, like real money and shit--to do stuff like this? at least there're supposed to be. aren't there? or does the "biting the hand that feeds you" analogy apply? looking at the IGN "story" linked from the unknownplayer piece, it's hard to believe that both IGN and unknownplayer are talking about the exact same situation. isn't it? or is that just me? it's probably me. never mind. i'll go back to sleep now. and btw, netscape6.2 isn't totally crap. it's sort of weird using it since i'm so used to IE now, but it ain't too bad. not nearly as bad as i was led to believe, anyway. it does weird things with the text cursor tho. - if you can laugh at it, you can live with it.
- "Hey, how 'bout this: fuck you." -LPMiller |
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LP: nothing wrong with it at all, conceptually. it was well done. would have been nice if the logs and mails would have been formatted a bit more cleanly/legibly, but wtf, that's a quibble. - if you can laugh at it, you can live with it.
- "Hey, how 'bout this: fuck you." -LPMiller |
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Though it seems we've wandered off topic already, the PainStation idea has been used before. Anyone remember that awful Bond film, Never Say Never Again ? (bad remake of Thunderball) There was a wierd game in that which electrocuted its users. |
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and btw, netscape6.2 isn't totally crap. it's sort of weird using it since i'm so used to IE now, but it ain't too bad. not nearly as bad as i was led to believe, anyway. it does weird things with the text cursor tho. Get mozilla. It seems to be more reliable, and a better browser overall, despite netscape being based on it. I still prefer IE, but mozilla is a very close second. |
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Yes, but then there's that Bond movie where they had a game which electrocuted the players. Also, are there any neuter characters in AO? If I seem superhuman, I have been misunderstood...
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crash: Probably not you. I was being jokey with that CNN line, anyway. I guess I never really thought about the distinct role of the ... more established gaming sites. But I always assumed they were more of the ilk of magazines and not really that of a news-breaking group such as Reuters / AP, or even that of a newspaper that prints those. |
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Nova: don't have a choice. work machine; need to be able to guide customers through the damned thing. sort of telling that i've been here almost a month and just got my first question on it today tho. - if you can laugh at it, you can live with it.
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Re: Blacksnow Well atleast they are consitent. "We have every right to farm and sell items!" They weren't contesting that they used exploits, they were contesting that it was illigal to do so. And considering that Realdoll dressed up like a Dark Elf. What be worse, dressing a doll up like that or your flesh and blood girlfriend? Seeing it my way since 1979
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Oh. Well. Sucks to be you! |
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Ashiran: They weren't contesting that they used exploits, they were contesting that it was illigal to do so. i have every right to make money from killing people. so what if killing people is against the rules? can't deny me the right to make money from it. that's what's going to hang them--the fact that they used bannable exploits, cheats, and hacks. they're not simply playing the game by the rules and selling the stuff they get--they're hacking and exploiting and cheating (which is against the rules of nearly every online game, mind you) to do so. the fact that they're willing to continue to do so--even going so far as to try to BRIBE THE COPS for chrissakes--will keep them out of the games. and watch for the code of conduct or terms of service in eq and daoc and ao and any game that wants to ban this behavior change to include the following concept: Anyone found dealing in real-life cash transactions using IP from our game--either buyer or seller--will be locked out of their account and permanently banned due to the overwhelming amounts of exploiting, hacking, and blah blah blah associated with this activity which is explicitly prohibited in section 7 above. it's really very simple. just wait. Nova Z: yes, yes it does. more than you know. - if you can laugh at it, you can live with it.
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The darkest side of capitalism is ignoring the law to gain a profit. Doesn't stop companies/individuals from doing so. But the biggest problem is when a loophole or merely a badly handled case sends the signal that it is okay to do so. |
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Oops... guess I'll have to check more carefully next time. Ho hum |
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http://www.realdoll.com/Letters.html Lol |
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Anon... Read those. Hahahahhaha. Real Doll is great for a good laugh. On the flip side, I took the kids to go see "Ice Age" today (good if you have small ones, but nowhere close to being as good as Shrek! was), and before the movie, I saw the goodness that is the new Episode II trailer. If you haven't seen it, get it. The emphasis is less on love and more on action, and I thought in this regard it did not disappoint. It had it all- Samuel L. Jackson swinging his purple lightsaber, Senator Palaptine beginning to smooth over Anakin, and Natalie Portman in her white, Princess Leia-like white outfit wielding a blaster in an arena with the Jedi. Great, great stuff. Stay home, haters! More room for my fat ass! Arizona Diamondbacks 2001 World Series Champions
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Blacksnow making 60K a month haxx0ring the GIPs? Where do I sign up? I was bitter and cynical before it was cool.
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Yeah, really. It's incredible to me how much money there is to be made by selling junk on ebay. I met a gal a couple weeks ago who quit her management job because she was making 10k/month buying used clothes at thrift stores and selling them on auction sites. Wonder if my pocket lint collection would bring in some good dough. Who am I kidding... of COURSE it would. -max
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mozilla's okay, but it's handling of stylesheets still sometimes makes me want to pull my teeth out. If I define a <div> as 100px wide, and then give it a border of 1 pixel, and padding of 4 pixels, the total width of the <div> should still be 100px. I should just have 90px of actual working space (border, pad, space, pad, border). But in NS6/Mozilla, the <div> expands out to 110px. st0000pid. -chris |
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Wake me up when those crazy Germans invent the PleasureStation. Well, I do not know if the Germans invented it, but you can wake up now |
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#34 by Martin Then again, I am abnormal. ("Where wolf? There wolf. There castle.") Why are you talking like that? And that's Abby Normal to the rest of us. |
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Gag gift they say ... SURE SURE uNF!
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