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Russians Skating On Thin Ice
February 26th 2002, 13:57 CET by m0nty Nikita, makers of the only computer game played by cosmonauts on the Mir space station, is working on what it claims is the first ever Russian MMORPG, tentatively entitled Sphere (or Sfera in the mother tongue). A charming interview by producer Stepan Zotov with Daily Telefrag details the standard Tolkien-influenced elf fest, but the similarities with Croteam are interesting. Can Nikita inject a fresh Eastern European flavour into a tired American-dominated genre, like Serious Sam did for the FPS? We all know how the Norwegian-sourced Anarchy Online has gone, so the history of European MMORPGs is not without its contentious products, but some continental projects are showing some signs of innovation. For instance, the Interactive division of Paris-based corporate developers Vircom is working on two online RPG titles: Dune Generations, based on the latest TV series adaptation of Frank Herbert's sf novels; and Black Moon Chronicles, which will bring to life a long-running French graphic novel series when it is released in March. The problem is this: Serious Sam managed to spruce up the shooter by going old skool with masses of dumb monsters, and concentrating on adrenaline inducement. How can anyone, particularly a Russian developer with no experience at online gaming, come up with a thrilling game atmosphere/playstyle in the MMORPG genre which can knock our socks off like SS did? Isn't everyone sick of the levelling treadmill, and the Tolkien milieu? How can elves be exciting any more? Will we have to wait for Tetris: The PIG? |
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so we have a choice between Gunp01nt's budding homosexuality and MMOGs. the news stuff and women was a good topic--was an interesting post; i'd never thought about it quite like that before--but come on, we both know the instant any whiff of "news media conspiracy" was being discussed here, we'd be treated to post after post of link-heavy "proof" of same from flamey. i'd rather talk about Gunp01nt's sexuality, personally, and that's definitely the lesser of two evils. man i need sleep. stayed up too late last night finishing Renegade. blah. - if you can laugh at it, you can live with it. -
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I think Joker hasn't had his jackoff for some time, he's being an even bigger biatch than usual....:/ <<< Do you believe in a god that tells you lies or do you believe in me? >>>
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#51 Siem: you sir, are in denial. Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
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Duality: I fail to see it as a reason to keep paying to play it. :) i agree. it's not about leveling. however, there has to be a base of some kind that devs can point to in order to obtain front money from publishers, and telling them, "Yeah, if we put level numbers in here, our lemmin--er, customers will continue to play the game to watch those numbers go up. What? Content? Bah, we'll just give 'em stuff to kill while they're chatting. As long as they can keep increasing their numbers, they'll keep paying. Look at the market, for Christ's sake! It's like printing money!" i wish that weren't true, but it is. - if you can laugh at it, you can live with it. -
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#55 Siemonnetje: I should probably shut up now before Curry man, who is in fact a very cool guy, and my hero, bans my ass. Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
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sorry joker, I'm afraid your love for me is an unanswered one.... <<< Do you believe in a god that tells you lies or do you believe in me? >>>
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#59 Siem: Don't worry, I get all the love I need from crash and curry man. And jafd satisfies even my wildest sexual desires. Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
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Aaalrighty then. New profile up. Hopefully Mr. Mans is ok with it now. Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration. |
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So you no longer have a need for Gunp01nt's sister? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm .... -duality
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#62 Duality: Hold it right there, HOLD IT. I did not even mention his sister, much less not having a need for her. I can always make room for her in my ..my...err....love life, or what i'm trying to make of it....whatever. Anyway, she's mine, ALL MINE.... Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration. |
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better hurry up then because a friend of mine is all over her if you want a shot at her meet us at the Time Out this friday :P :D <<< Do you believe in a god that tells you lies or do you believe in me? >>>
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Man, crash ate his cranky flavored Wheaties this morning. So sorry I thought leaving the choice of how links spawn to the user was such a bad idea, I guess hitting the shift key or accessing a context menu no matter what is the right thing to do. Geez. |
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#64 Brother in law: Damnit. Damnit I say. Why do I have so much bad luck. This friday is way too soon, and you know it. Any chance you can like...make your friend have some bad luck? Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
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Sigh. Good idea rather. Choice is good. User prefs are good. Automating behaviors according to your usage patterns good. |
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I think "Open Link In Same Window" is what should be in the context menu and the default behavior of a browser should be to open links in a new window. |
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Er...yeah, I think we need another MMOG, can't get enough of 'em. Will it succeed? I dunno. Despite the massive problems and the talk of an MMOG glut, Anarchy Online and World War II Online are still kicking around. Does anyone else find "EOD" already as annoying as "SKO"? I've never bought into the comparisons between Doom and Serious Sam. I played Doom, Doom II, have played Serious Sam (in co-op) and about one-third of SS2 (also in co-op) and I find the only major similarity is a) you have lots of guns b) you shoot lots of monsters with your guns while working inexorably toward the final boss monster, with a paper-thin story as the backdrop to the action. Now, you might snarkily say, that's all the games are, anyway, so case closed. But...Doom is much more of a conventional shooter, complete with the assortment of puzzles, traps, maze-like constructions and the things you expect to find. Serious Sam, on the other hand, strips away most of this (although SS2 does offere a bit more in the way of puzzles) in favor of a "set piece" style of construction. Example: In SS2, near the end of the first episode, you exit a plaza and round a corner, looking down a long, narrow walled-in path. There are a few piles of cannonballs you can pick up. Sam says something cute about bowling and sure enough, you hear the thunder of a multitude of werebulls that start charging down the path toward you. Pull out your cannon, line 'em up and knock 'em down. When you're done, you proceed through to another plaza. In Doom, the action is more conventional...you work your way through a series of small battles, with the occasional big furball (but even these pale to the sheer scale of battles in SS). The feel is completely different. So I suppose I can see someone not liking either game because both are "mindless action", but to me the presentation is different enough to not make Serious Sam just a modern Doom knock-off. Bleah. That was longer that I expected. |
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Link debate: Make it a user choice, much like whether or not to save while playing a game. 'Nuff said. :) |
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I don't think its a knock-off, either -- but there are definitely similarities in some of how the games work. -duality
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jeuker: Any chance you can like...make your friend have some bad luck? I dunno. Ask his girlfriend. <<< Do you believe in a god that tells you lies or do you believe in me? >>>
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#73 PunG01nt: D00d? He has a girlfriend and you ALLOW him to mess with your sister?????? .... THAT'S AWESOME. So I can keep jafd even if I have her. Cool. Plus I thought Hollanders were like "If you're a friend of mine don't mess with my sisters, I don't like it." Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
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Eve online is being produced by a European company, is it not? "If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." -- Lewis Carroll
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Indeed! CCP. Hendrik "Morn" Mans - morn@planetcrap.com
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Maybe I should rephrase that.. being programmed by a European company. Bleh ;p CCP? "If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." -- Lewis Carroll
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Heh, bad timing on my part. "If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." -- Lewis Carroll
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it could be worse, they could be chinese or indian programmers. |
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For the record, CCP are likeable folk. At the time I was writing for the flesh-eating disease that was DTN, I had a little fun with CCP's poor grasp of how acronyms work, (i.e. actually involving letters used in the phrase being abbreviated) so they gave us a live Q&A session and offered a handful of beta passes once the game went press-friendly status. They seemed rather amused by their fans going absolutely bugfuck over my gentle teasing. However, the idea of a Homeworld-esque RTS GIP doesn't really appeal to me, so I've not really followed their product since. Beautiful screenshots though. |
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Yeah, the folks at CCP really seem to be nice people.. judging from the responses they have left on the Eve "official forum". On an unrelated note, the developers for Elder Scrolls Morrowind really seem to be on the ball and polite to their fans. If you can get a development group that is as friendly and capable as the Bethesda Softworks peeps, directly behind an MMORPG.. you've got it made imho.. "If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." -- Lewis Carroll
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All of the MMOG you ever really need: Progress Quest |
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I'm not quite sure why but, this little movie clip reminded me of alot of Joker's arguements here on PC. ;) |
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Dev Yeah, the folks at CCP really seem to be nice people.. judging from the responses they have left on the Eve "official forum". Link? Sir, you are seriously hunting my wumpus.
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Hugin: Man, crash ate his cranky flavored Wheaties this morning. naah, i'm just trying to cut back on my emoticon usage. turns out i need them more than i'd like to admit. feh, i say. no crankier than normal. don't eat wheaties, though. don't really have breakfast, come to think of it. Creole Ned: Does anyone else find "EOD" already as annoying as "SKO"? i might if i knew what it meant, or if i cared enough to find out. - if you can laugh at it, you can live with it. -
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don't eat wheaties, though. don't really have breakfast, come to think of it. Maybe that's why you're so cranky. -duality
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crash naah, i'm just trying to cut back on my emoticon usage. Preach on, true soldier. Sir, you are seriously hunting my wumpus.
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#60 And jafd satisfies even my wildest sexual desires. If I had known you were going to be the tiresome jackass that you've been for the last ten months, I really would have cybered with you when you asked me to, instead of just telling you to fuck off. It would have ultimately been less nauseating. Now, with a new version of PC, comes a new sole instance of me telling you to fuck off. At least there's something you're good at. Fuck off. Any chance you can like...make your friend have some bad luck? Well, he could show her your posts and attribute them to him. That'd keep any sane woman as far away as possible. choose any two: Cheap, Fast, Good.
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i might if i knew what it meant, or if i cared enough to find out. End Of Discussion. Blame Morn. choose any two: Cheap, Fast, Good.
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oh, ok. close cousin of EOF. should have figured that out. feh. - if you can laugh at it, you can live with it. -
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I really recommend a breakfast. Not having a daily morning meal has a tremendous effect on one's cognitive capacities. Fruit is good. choose any two: Cheap, Fast, Good.
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#84 by Bailey: Link? --- <a href="http://board.eve-online.com/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=4&CAT_ID=3&Forum_Title=EVE+General+Discussion">Eve Forum - General Discussion</a> Dunno if links are alright, but that one leads to the Eve discussion board. Check out some of the posts, every so often one of the CCP guys drop a tidbit of info, they seem to interact very well with the fans. "If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." -- Lewis Carroll
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Okay, either I screwed up the html.. or I'm just a planetcrap newb (Yup, that is assured) Anyway, there it is.. "If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." -- Lewis Carroll
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Try this. Now, got some specific links/examples? I'd sooner put out my eyes than peruse a fan forum. Sir, you are seriously hunting my wumpus.
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Try this. Now, got some specific links/examples? I'd sooner put out my eyes than peruse a fan forum. Sir, you are seriously hunting my wumpus.
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Try this. Now, got some specific links/examples? I'd sooner put out my eyes than peruse a fan forum. Sir, you are seriously hunting my wumpus.
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See the "craptags" help box below the comments form for some help on how to make links. Hendrik "Morn" Mans - morn@planetcrap.com
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See the "craptags" help box below the comments form for some help on how to make links. Hendrik "Morn" Mans - morn@planetcrap.com
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Note to self, url formatting instructions on bottom of page. Self takes note. ;p "If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." -- Lewis Carroll
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Note to self, html formatting instructions on bottom of page. Self takes note. "If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." -- Lewis Carroll
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Note to self, html formatting instructions on bottom of page. Self takes note. "If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." -- Lewis Carroll
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Err.. I should have read the instructions on the bottom of the page. Another case of RTFM! vgo vgz vav? :| "If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." -- Lewis Carroll
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