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Anarchy Online Best MMORPG of 2001?
February 12th 2002, 22:06 CET by Morn Believe it or not, but good old Anarchy Online has been awarded Best MMORPG of 2001 by PC Gamer. Hmm. Ignoring the crash problems the game had in the first months after its launch, I can honestly say that I've had more fun with AO than I've had with DAoC. Yes, DAoC has been very stable, but it lacks something AO has. Maybe allowing me to be silly? Who knows. Overall, I think MMORPGs aren't anywhere near where they could, or should be. Everquest, Asheron's Call, Dark Age of Camelot and Anarchy Online are all essentially the same game -- one of the reasons why I'm currently not subscribed to any of them. (The other is the little thing about having to play with other people. Oh, the horror.) Anyway -- should a game that was shipped in a horrible, horrible state be awarded like this, no matter if it's the most fun? Doesn't that send the wrong message to developers and publishers alike? Discuss, people! |
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Spatula: Thanks, I use digital (EOS-1D/S40) and 35mm (EOS-1N). I'm too lazy to scan myself, so I take the 35mm negatives to a place downtown for scanning to CD. I don't know what hardware they use. Something way more expensive than I can afford, that's for sure. |
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Anarchy Online still is nowhere near complete. The servers are significantly more stable, but even with their "Faster loading database voodoo" there's tremendous lag when you approach anywhere near a group of people or if you go into Baboon's bar. There's major horrible severe problems with the classes and only a few of them are really viable. They're fixing them at a rate of about 1 class per 3 months and every time they change something it has unintended effects across the board. Like making monsters 15 times harder than they're supposed to be. They are putting new content in. There's a few static dungeons now and they keep adding more. But the most important thing they've done is add a line of super-expensive lingere and made it so food and drinks show up on your character when equiped. So the rare moments I log in (got a free account back in beta) I get to live out my lifelong dream of being a beautiful nubian princess running through the streets in panties with two bottles of whiskey. The only people left playing are level 120+ and feel like they've invested too much time to stop. |
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Narco It was in Elvish. Elves are in this year. The scary part about this statement? I was talking to a MMOG exec two nights ago who was asking which elven version of my name I preferred. Wish I could remember the link to the English->Elvish name database... no, wait, I don't. Tra la la. |
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Off-topic, I propose trying the irc.enterthegame.com server. 30-char nick limit, I haven't been disconnected in the couple of hours I've been on....no random fools popping in and out to annoy people. I'll stay connected tonight and see if it stays stable. If so (and I have no reason thus far to think it won't) I say we move over here for a while...hopefully you guys will agree. Desiato lurking on #podheadz (I used to be involved with POD, that old UbiSoft game..) |
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The only people left playing are level 120+ and feel like they've invested too much time to stop. Yes, let's not let the inertia of loserdom hit us square in the face :P |
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Too late, Eris. Too late by far. |
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So where exactly does PC Gamer sit on the credibility meter, anyway? I haven't read the magazine for quite some time. No one seems to have addressed the main point raised. My concern with Anarchy Online getting this sort of award is that it effectively rewards developers/publishers for using the "ship now, fix later" method of game design. Have we reached a point where the cynical gamer is so jaded he doesn't give a damn anymore and the casual gamer is too blind to object to the practice? |
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#33 Spatula Man Leslie: Just peeked at your webpage - you're some photographer... Yes, I agree, he's very good. And his artwork roolz too. Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher - All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration. |
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#25 crash pwned. #26 Caryn Law #23 The Joker I hate both Caryn and crash. Please die. My work here is done. (flings colorful cape over shoulder and heads toward the window) It's a very sad day when stuff like this happens... *shakes head* Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher - All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration. |
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Someone tell me that Futurama isn't cancelled..... Godammit. Desiato |
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Ned No one seems to have addressed the main point raised. My concern with Anarchy Online getting this sort of award is that it effectively rewards developers/publishers for using the "ship now, fix later" method of game design. Article going up in a bit that addresses this. |
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Futurama gone. I haven't watched more than a few episodes in the past 2 years because it's always pre-empted by either football or auto-racing. |
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Futurama cancellation = Millions of slashdot geeks sobbing = :) Creole Ned - Read the topic, I think that says plenty for PCLamer's credibility or lack thereof. --jmc |
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AO had a lot of nothing. I mean A LOT of nothing. DAOC has a little of nothing, but that gets better all the time. AO was a great concept, though it was poorly thought out. DAOC has a pretty standard concept, but they do it well. A game doesn't have to be original so much as it needs to work, and have something to actually do. |
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You know, I don't really know if I should share this. Don't click it unless you don't mind Flash, have 2 minutes to watch it, and really really don't mind the fact that it is waaaayyyy wacky & weird, but one of those things you jsut keep watching because you are hypnotized by its complete ebrace of the bizzare. You have been warned: Super Mario Twins |
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That's ancient history Post-It :P The song is by a band called Group X and they have some really funny songs, a quick browse with morpheus will turn up pretty much all of them. Enjoy. --jmc ~you would give me kiss if i were on soccer team~ |
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BONUS MYSTERY LINK! |
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Cute JMC. I guess it would be spoil-sportish of me to mention that's not worksafe. |
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#41 by Creole Ned So where exactly does PC Gamer sit on the credibility meter, anyway? I haven't read the magazine for quite some time. I'm not reading mags for credibility. They are all too eager to get that hot new preview or the latest in hot gamedevelopment (which is quite valid). You can tell by the way previews always get more pages then the reviews. However they never bother to do some fact checking for the popular phrases they toss up. Two examples I can recall at this time. Example 1: "Voyager Elite Force has the voices from the orignal cast including the all tight and lusious Seven of Nine!" Jeri Ryan was the only one of the original cast who DIDN'T lend her voice for the game. Check the credits. Example 2: "From the makers of Homeworld Cataclysm: Sigma!" (currently ICreatures) Relic Studios made the original Homeworld but had almost nothing to do with Cataclysm which was made by Barking Dog Studios. Minor annoyances indeed and most people wouldn't even notice. It's not that I'm saying they should stop doing this it just shows how credible and "in the scene" mags are. I'm just reading them to see if there is some new game announced I might like. Definitly not for their opinion on games cause that rarely is consistent with my own. |
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PIGs'll come of age when you don't have this fucking d&dlite wank, clogging up the phone system and the player's arteries. Imagine Deus Ex, on-line, persistent. So much potential for different player factions, random day-to-day persistence - lots of upgrades, skills & devices potential, devloper-made major plot advances for overall story arc. Now that's what I'm talking about. |
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Oh, and regarding the #planetcrap IRC situation: Desiato, I checked out EGN prior to NewNet, and I didn't like it much. Basically, the Ircop I had to talk to to get #planetcrap registered seemed to be some kind of 15 year old claiming to be some kind of "ISP", but displaying an unhealthy lack of Internet and spelling skills (those two rarely go together well, anyway). :b I'm kind of disappointed by the frequent net splits on NewNet. Are they hosting one of their hubs on some kind of 56k line?! That's why I'm going to put an IRC server on PlanetCrap's new server really soon, so everything will be back to normal. I believe Max aka Chromag has been setting something up, too; maybe we'll just use that, or even link the two servers. We'll see. - Morn |
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It was in Elvish. Elves are in this year. Elvish lives. |
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crash: Caryn: it's already here, albeit in a limited fashion. Yep, that's a porn game alright... site opens with 2 pop-ups and has a 'sneak peek tour'! awesome graphics, man! So it's a retro game! |
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Did this specific story make it here yet? This is the Microsoft XP licence. GO TO page 6. Find INTERNET-BASED SERVICE COMPONENTS headline. Read it. You: "...acknowledge and agree that Microsoft may automatically check the version of the Product and / or It's components that you are utilizing and may provide upgrades or fixes to the product that will be AUTOMATICALLY downloaded to your Workstation Computer". IBSC, isn't that a bit like, oh I don't know, MAIL, or EXPLORER? Doesn't this mean MS can thereafter scan your computer at-will and install any software they desire? And they're not required to inform you or anything? Just checking... |
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Hello, I've been viiting this site for quite sometime, but never actually posted anything. Well, I guess its time to say something. I've played AO and DaOC extensively, and in my opinion, DaOC is considerably better than AO. Now, I am not going to talk about stability here, because thats what we all know, inspite of all the patches etc etc, DaOC is still far more stable than AO. Now, why is DAOC better than AO? Because, if you visit camelotherald.com often. you will see that Mythic is constantly adding new content in the form of new quests, new monster models, new spells, new sounds, new items and recently they even added a COMPLETE NEW EPIC ZONE. Moreover, according to what the Dev has said at camelotherald, they will continue to add new fresh content into the game at rgeular intervals. Shortly, they will also be adding a lowbie RvR zone and even a completely new PvP server. Improvements like these help keep a game rfresh and community alive. AO on the other hand, is STABLE, I mean.. things just happen.. things keep going on. I just find AO bland compared to DaOC. I mean, with DAOC , there is always something new to look forward to. |
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flame: Doesn't this mean MS can thereafter scan your computer at-will and install any software they desire? And they're not required to inform you or anything? Just checking... Yes. But what else is new? Microsoft = Microsoft. |
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Yes. But what else is new? Gyroscooters that look like pogosticks. |
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flamey: Gyroscooters that look like pogosticks. Really? wow... first time I've heard of it! |
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#40 by Bailey Too late, Eris. Too late by far. Noooo... I still have more Warhammer 40k games to go before that happens! |
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Really? wow... first time I've heard of it! If that was intentionally funny, it was. If you don't know what I'm referring to, move right along. |
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Word to the Irish among us, yur cops are as good as yur soldiers. |
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Yes Flamey, it's called Windows Update. You can turn it off. THE HORROR!!! Sorry Bailey, of course one could argue that one should do work at work :P --jmc |
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*sigh*. I need to get around to getting my A+ cert. I'm applying to the Dept of Transportation soon, and no matter how useless the cert is (and how much I can pass it with nooooo problems) it still looks good. I just can't justify paying what, 300$ for both tests. |
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Cool. http://www.testvouchers.com/ has them for 25% off, if anyone else is on the low-end of the IT industry. |
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flamethrower: Word to the Irish among us, yur cops are as good as yur soldiers. Shouldn't that be 'yur cops are as "good" as our cops. But they're still not as bad as our soldiers' ? deadlock bleh |
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JMC At this job, I'd go a little nutty without PC at my fingertips. But I was reading it at home, in any case. This shitty PC couldn't handle any page with sound or graphics anyway. Literally, it's an overclocked 486 dx or somesuch dinosaur. |
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Morn, You should move #planetcrap to QuakeNet, the IRC network for today's gaming cognoscenti. Not that I'm affiliated with it in any way at all mind. No siree. |
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re: 'Lord of the Rings' I felt the first fifteen minutes of the film were phenominal. The rest of the content was true in the spirit of Tolkien. However, It ended just like...that. Strange. The Male Battle-D |
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Which is exactly how the first book ended, so it pretty much fit the bill. |
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Quote: [Which is exactly how the first book ended, so it pretty much fit the bill.] Perhaps. However, to the casual moviegoer (myself and someone else) the ending was (to put it nicely) 'anti-climatic'. The Male Battle-D |
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Battle Dwarf: However, to the casual moviegoer (myself and someone else) the ending was (to put it nicely) 'anti-climatic'. Heh, from what I heard the 'casual-moviegoer' didn't even understand a fuckin thing of the movie since the 'casual moviegoer' never read the book... |
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#75 Gunp01nt Heh, from what I heard the 'casual-moviegoer' didn't even understand a fuckin thing of the movie since the 'casual moviegoer' never read the book... I never read the book(s) and I understood the movie just fine. |
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caryn: I never read the book(s) and I understood the movie just fine. Then you're with the smart 5% that didn't read the book but understood the movie the first time they saw it. |
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Considering there's little to no closure until half-way through the third book, there's not really much the director could do about that without rewriting the whole story. Sucks for the LCD as most didn't seem to understand there's going to be two more movies, but hey, whaddya do? |
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#77 Gunp01nt caryn: I never read the book(s) and I understood the movie just fine. Then you're with the smart 5% that didn't read the book but understood the movie the first time they saw it. Whatever, man. I saw the movie with six other co-workers who never read the books who had no problems at all, and I'm not sure any of them CAN read. They're not exactly brain trusts. |
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#79 Ergo #77 Gunp01nt caryn: I never read the book(s) and I understood the movie just fine. Then you're with the smart 5% that didn't read the book but understood the movie the first time they saw it. Whatever, man. I saw the movie with six other co-workers who never read the books who had no problems at all, and I'm not sure any of them CAN read. They're not exactly brain trusts. I know other people too who saw it and understood it, and even loved it. The wife of a friend of mine is totally NOT into fantasy, never read the books, and he said that even she loved the movie and understood what was going on. |
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Wait a minute... someone who uses a handle involving the term "dwarf" who hasn't read Tolkien? That's just wrong. And probably hypocritical, but I'm not sure how. |
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I'm a bit worried that when the movie was called out at the Awards nominations, it was "Lord of the Rings", when the actual name of the film (and the first book) is The Fellowship of the Ring. Will The Two Towers be known as Lord of the Rings II? /me shudders... |
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I thought the movie ended as well as a the first chapter of a 3 volume set can, they have a major battle, Frodo sets on his journey, blah blah... works out good to me. Reminded me of Empire Strikes Back. --jmc |
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#83 JMCDaveL I thought the movie ended as well as a the first chapter of a 3 volume set can, they have a major battle, Frodo sets on his journey, blah blah... works out good to me. Reminded me of Empire Strikes Back. --jmc Agreed. It cracks me up when people say "But it ended so abruptly!" |
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