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A secret global conspiracy of game developers that control society?
August 11th 2001, 13:38 CEST by Tommy I am not sure if this deserves its own topic (<i>it does - mr0n the phantom ed</i>) but as a common lurker I didn't feel I could just drop it carte blanche into whatever topic thread was currently underway. A friend told me about this site: <a href="http://www.gameilluminati.com">http://www.gameilluminati.com</a> That is apparently a members only bulletin board. You cannot access it without a password. Apparently it is 'invitation only' for industry people. Beyond the password members enter a holy grail of mature discussions and non- flaming objective discussions about the merits of games, as debated by an elite few. Interestingly enough, this board is registered to a one George Broussard, he of 3D Realms fame. Unfortunately, I myself work for a Publisher and am hence patently evil, so will no doubt never get to feast on the intellectual riches within (it's for developers who have shipped titles only). I would be interested to know if loyal PlanetCrappers from the development side have been exposed to the joys of www.gameilluminati.com and if so, if perhaps they could 'illuminate' us on the merits of this site? Is this a joyous site, protecting true captains of the industry and allowing them a safe haven for discourse? Or is this a dangerous and subversive, insidious form of elitism that harms us all? Could www.gameilluminati.com spell the end of our honorable PlanetCrap (<i>No! Never! - mr0n the phantom ed</i>)? Will we see gamesbiz professionals flee in search of greener, safer pastures yonder? Please Comment and discuss. Me, I'm just fascinated and nosey. |
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jafd = ? (1) Mr. Circumlocution (2) Mr. Mixed Metaphor (3) Mr. "If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit." (4) Mr. "It's amazing how these drugs make such huge planks in my reasonable speech shatter to bits." |
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I'd ask George for a login & pass (just to check it out) but I think the odds of getting a hands-on preview of DNF would be better. :) |
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#67: Oh dear. I had been trying ever so hard to make a good impression on people just like you. Perhaps I had better go huff more glue, then perhaps I'll be as clever and insightful as you are. Which brand do you use? |
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With a name like Game Illuminati its bound to get up people's olfactory organs, it's one step away from pointing and laughing at folk while saying "I'm better than you! I'm better than you!" in a girly voice. Anyway it's just a front, GeorgeB has just released ancient screenshots of it to members, and in a few months they'll decide to re-write what they have in perl. --- Who holds back the electric car? Who makes John Romero a star? We do! We do! |
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"I'm better than you! I'm better than you!" In the context of creating games? Well, duh. |
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I have to agree with jafd: They *are* better than the people who don't have access at making games. That's why they're professionals. -shai |
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Well, of course. (see jafd & shai's posts) they are the developers, and if they want to have an insider forum, I think they are more than welcome to. im not sure if anyone has touched on this before (gah, the whole reading the threads thing again) but is this whole story spawned out of the fact that a publisher tried to gain membership and he was rejected? |
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Does your mullet have a separate login and pass George? --jmc |
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woooooo! gg The All-Seeing Eye |
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YAY! -shai |
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Hmm Doom 3 will come out for Xbox as well... And HALLEFUCKINLUJAH Trent Reznor is doing the score. --jmc |
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I'd prefer Goldsmith or Christopher Young. :) |
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It's probably just a place where they pat each other on the back and talk about how they're so perfect and we're all a bunch of ungrateful cunts. That's not good reading if you ask me. |
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That's not good reading if you ask me. That'd be because you're an ungrateful cunt. |
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Hmm.. Thief II sits on my desk, begging to be played. Should I install it and try it out? I'm a big fan of Deus Ex, and any kind of immersive FPS experience, so is it worth it? -- Dethstryk Thought Coma |
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/me measures the gap Yep, no way a live, whole human could fit through there /me steps through |
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Toad It's probably just a place where they pat each other on the back and talk about how they're so perfect and we're all a bunch of ungrateful cunts. That's not good reading if you ask me. Glad you've got it all figured out and aren't just jumping to a stupid conclusion while having no facts. |
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*Pats Warren on the back* |
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*panics and wonders why Preacher is behind him* |
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No need to panic, Warren. It's Preacher, not Catholic Priest ;-) |
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They *are* better than the people who don't have access at making games. That's why they're professionals. So call it gameprofessionals.com, "Illuminati" has negative secret society type connotations whichever way you look at it. Should I install it and try it out? I'm a big fan of Deus Ex, and any kind of immersive FPS experience, so is it worth it? Yes. |
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No need to panic, Warren. It's Preacher, not Catholic Priest ;-) Of course, if it were "Preacher Boy" you'd maybe do well to panic doubly. |
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So call it gameprofessionals.com, "Illuminati" has negative secret society type connotations whichever way you look at it. There's a secret handshake and everything. |
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Upon seeing some of the reactions to the "secret" dev board, it reminds me of a Simpsons quote -- "Why don't they let me in their crappy club for jerks!!" -- Homer, "The Stonecutters" If they want a private forum, sure -- I can't say I'm not curious about it, but then again it isn't meant for me - I'm not a game developer by any means. Desiato |
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"Illuminati" has negative secret society type connotations whichever way you look at it. Whichever way? Well, not if you are illuminated, duuuuuuuumbass! Too funny. It is as though the trolls are flaming themselves with extra amounts of reckless Abbadon in this thread. |
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hmm, one of those doors that won't open right now. Who wants to make a new door? |
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There's a secret handshake and everything. I've got a book of all the secret masonic handshakes and other ritual type stuff kicking about somewhere, not nearly as interesting as people think. Whichever way? Well, not if you are illuminated, duuuuuuuumbass! You've entirely missed the point, I'm merely suggesting why people are reacting the way they have. |
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Warren: You dun wanna know.... |
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#95: If that's the case, you're right, the appellation 'dumbass' doesn't apply to you, in spite of your chosen nom de plume. However, I steadfastly maintain that anyone who looks at this story and thinks, "Wow! That sucks, what a bunch of assholes!" is not a "people." Not human. Just an animal with a mind they can't or won't use. By the way, if you actually do have such a book in your possession, and you... *gasp*... don't even know where it is, take steps. You're being monitored. |
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Comic Book Guy: Worst Thread EVER! |
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I think Tommy Shaw said it best when he first heard about Dennis DeYoungs Mr. Roboto theater concert Idea... "Da fuck?" Trying to care about secret BBS board....trying.....trying.....failing.....failing..... So they have their own playground. I swear, people go out of their way to be offended by something. LPMiller Chief News Editor http://www.gotapex.com |
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So call it gameprofessionals.com, "Illuminati" has negative secret society type connotations whichever way you look at it. They can call it whatever they want, and it can be as secret as they want it to be. People are allowed to keep some things private, and you (the collective you) are not entitled to view something private simply because you want to. Is it somehow wrong for me to close my window shades in my house? Can I have a private conversation with my friends in my house and not invite others? Just as it would be fairly stupid for you to demand that I open my window shades, it's fairly stupid to intimate that game developers, or anyone, are committing some kind of sin by having a private discussion. Not all of us are invited to everyone's party. Deal with it. |
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#91 Warren Marshall said "There's a secret handshake and everything." I hear they have to wear beanies with little propellers on the top. ......................I see dead people............... AND THEY'RE NAKED! |
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#100 Caryn Not all of us are invited to everyone's party. Deal with it. Right on. |
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Off topic: It was pretty nice to pick up Max Payne today for 15 bucks at Circuit City. Thanks whoever can't proofread the CC ads! |
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Trying out OpenCrap. Neato. Very basic UI. :P |
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Are there any GIRLS there? |
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Are there any GIRLS there? Do you know many girl game developers? :) |
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Warren Marshall (#85): Glad you've got it all figured out and aren't just jumping to a stupid conclusion while having no facts. I wouldn't dream of ever doing that. :) |
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Do you know many girl game developers? :) How are we supposed to find them if we don't ask? - Kaine |
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The Silent Wars - The Control Of The Populace! The following document, dated May 1979, was found on July 7, 1986, in an IBM copier that had been purchased at a surplus sale. [table of contents] Security, Historical Introduction, Political Introduction, Energy, Descriptive Introduction of the Silent Weapons, Historical Introduction, Mr Rothschild's Energy Discovery, Apparent Capital as Paper Inductor, General Energy Concepts, Breakthrough, Application in Economics, The Economic Model, Economic Shock-Testing, Industrial Diagrams, Three Industrial Classes, Aggregation, The E Model, Economic Inductance, Inductive Factors to Consider, Translation, The Household Industry, The Household Models, Introduction to Economic Amplifiers, Amplification Energy Sources, Consent, the Primary Victory, Diversion, the Primary Strategy, Diversion Summary, Table of Strategies, Logistics, Short List of Inputs, Short List of Outputs, The Artificial Womb, Political Structure of a Nation, Action - Offense, Responsibility, Summary, Time Flow Relationships and Self-Destructive Oscillations TOP SECRET Silent weapons for quiet wars An introductory programming manual Operations Research Technical Manual TM-SW7905.1 Welcome Aboard This publication marks the 25th anniversary of the Third World War, called the "Quiet War", being conducted using subjective biological warfare, fought with "silent weapons". This book contains an introductory description of this war, its strategies, and its weaponry. SECURITY It is patently impossible to discuss social engineering or the automation of a society, i.e., the engineering of social automation systems (silent weapons)on a national or worldwide scale without implying extensive objectives of social control and destruction of human life, i.e., slavery and genocide. This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing must be secured from public scrutiny. Otherwise, it might be recognized as a technically formal declaration of domestic war. Furthermore, whenever any person or group of persons in a position of great power and without full knowledge and consent of the public, uses such knowledge and methodologies for economic conquest - it must be understood that a state of domestic warfare exists between said person or group of persons and the public. The solution of today's problems requires an approach which is ruthlessly candid, with no agonizing over religious, moral or cultural values. You have qualified for this project because of your ability to look at human society with cold objectivity, and yet analyze and discuss your observations and conclusions with others of similar intellectual capacity without the loss of discretion or humility. Such virtues are exercised in your own best interest. Do not deviate from them. HISTORICAL INTRODUCTION Silent weapon technology has evolved from Operations Research (O.R.), a strategic and tactical methodology developed under the Military Management in England during World War II. The original purpose of Operations Research was to study the strategic and tactical problems of air and land defense with the objective of effective use of limited military resources against foreign enemies (i.e., logistics). It was soon recognized by those in positions of power that the same methods might be useful for totally controlling a society. But better tools were necessary. Social engineering (the analysis and automation of a society) requires the correlation of great amounts of constantly changing economic information (data), so a high-speed computerized data-processing system was necessary which could race ahead of the society and predict when society would arrive for capitulation. Relay computers were to slow, but the electronic computer, invented in 1946 by J. Presper Eckert and John W. Mauchly, filled the bill. The next breakthrough was the development of the simplex method of linear programming in 1947 by the mathematician George B. Dantzig. Then in 1948, the transistor, invented by J. Bardeen, W.H. Brattain, and W. Shockley, promised great expansion of the computer field by reducing space and power requirements. With these three inventions under their direction, those in positions of power strongly suspected that it was possible for them to control the whole world with the push of a button. Immediately, the Rockefeller Foundation got in on the ground floor by making a four-year grant to Harvard College, funding the Harvard Economic Research Project for the study of the structure of the American Economy. One year later, in 1949, The United States Air Force joined in. In 1952 the grant period terminated, and a high-level meeting of the Elite was held to determine the next phase of social operations research. The Harvard project had been very fruitful, as is borne out by the publication of some of its results in 1953 suggesting the feasibility of economic (social) engineering (*). Engineered in the last half of the decade of the 1940's, the new Quiet War machine stood, so to speak, in sparkling gold-plated hardware on the showroom floor by 1954. With the creation of the maser in 1954, the promise of unlocking unlimited sources of fusion atomic energy from the heavy hydrogen in sea water and the consequent availability of unlimited social power was a possibility only decades away. The combination was irresistible. The Quiet War was quietly declared by the International Elite at a meeting held in 1954. Although the silent weapons system was nearly exposed 13 years later, the evolution of the new weapon-system has never suffered any major setbacks. This volume marks the 25th anniversary of the beginning of the Quiet War. Already this domestic war has had many victories on many fronts throughout the world. (*) "Studies in the Structure of American Economy" (1953), by Vassili Leontief (director of the Harvard Economic Research Project), International Science Press Inc., White Plains, New York. |
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Urban Myths are so much fun. |
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Oh and JAFD: your interest and well-readness(?) astounds me. Congratulations on using quite a few good, if slightly butchured, references. Or maybe.... they were butchured to throw "THEM" off the trail....? *gasp* Anyone know if our favorit Special Correspondent has yet tried to throw this into a paranoid content yet? |
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Trying out OpenCrap. Neato. Very basic UI. :P Is that a good or bad thing? -- Gabe |
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You know what GameIlluminati.com? A cousin's neigbor's aunt told me that it's a site Scott Miller and George B. are creating in order to discuss about real issues. Both have been known(especially Miller) to encourage someone to design a site where people can discuss in-depth about gaming issues without the need for lamers. So it wouldn't surprise me if people on this board right now have been inside. And not just developers either. - Paul |
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POLITICAL INTRODUCTION In 1954 it was well recognized by those in positions of authority that it was only a matter of time, only a few decades, before the general public would be able to grasp and upset the cradle of power, for the very elements of the new silent-weapon tec hnology were as accessible for a public utopia as they were for providing a private utopia. The issue of primary concern, that of dominance, revolved around the subject of the energy sciences. ENERGY Energy is recognized as the key to all activity on earth. Natural science is the study of the sources and control of natural energy, and social science, theoretically expressed economics, is the study of the sources and control of social energy. Bo th are bookkeeping systems: mathematics. Therefore, mathematics is the primary energy science. And the bookkeeper can be king if the public can be kept ignorant of the methodology of the bookkeeping. All science is merely a means to an end. The means is knowledge. The end is control. Beyond this remains only one issue: Who will be the beneficiary? In 1954 this was the issue of primary concern. Although the so-called "moral issues" were raised, in view of the law of natural selection it was agreed that a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent. Consequently, in the interest of future world order, peace, and tranquillity, it was decided to privately wage a quiet war against the American public with an ultimate objective of permanently shifting the natural and social energy (wealth) of the undisciplined and irresponsible many into the hands of the self-disciplined, responsible, and worthy few. In order to implement this objective, it was necessary to create, secure, and apply new weapons which, as it turned out, were a class of weapons so subtle and sophisticated in their principle of operation and public appearance as to earn for themselves the name "silent weapons". In conclusion, the objective of economic research, as conducted by the magnates of capital (banking) and the industries of commodities (goods) and services, is the establishment of an economy which is totally predictable and manipulatable. In order to achieve a totally predictable economy, the low-class elements of society must be brought under total control, i.e., must be housebroken, trained, and assigned a yoke and long-term social duties from a very early age, before they have an opportunity to question the propriety of the matter. In order to achieve such conformity, the lower-class family unit must be disintegrated by a process of increasing preoccupation of the parents and the establishment of government-operated day-care centers for the occupationally orphaned children. The quality of education given to the lower class must be of the poorest sort, so that the moat of ignorance isolating the inferior class from the superior class is and remains incomprehensible to the inferior class. With such an initial handicap, even bright lower class individuals have little if any hope of extricating themselves from their assigned lot in life. This form of slavery is essential to maintain some measure of social order, peace, and tranquility for the ruling upper class. DESCRIPTIVE INTRODUCTION OF THE SILENT WEAPON Everything that is expected from an ordinary weapon is expected from a silent weapon by its creators, but only in its own manner of functioning. It shoots situations, instead of bullets; propelled by data processing, instead of chemical reaction (explosion); originating from bits of data, instead of grains of gunpowder; from a computer, instead of a gun; operated by a computer programmer, instead of a marksman; under the orders of a banking magnate, instead of a military general. It makes no obvious explosive noises, causes no obvious physical or mental injuries, and does not obviously interfere with anyone's daily social life. Yet it makes an unmistakable "noise," causes unmistakable physical and mental damage, and unmistakably interferes with the daily social life, i.e., unmistakable to a trained observer, one who knows what to look for. The public cannot comprehend this weapon, and therefore cannot believe that they are being attacked and subdued by a weapon. The public might instinctively feel that something is wrong, but that is because of the technical nature of the silent weapon, they cannot express their feeling in a rational way, or handle the problem with intelligence. Therefore, they do not know how to cry for help, and do not know how to associate with others to defend themselves against it. When a silent weapon is applied gradually, the public adjusts/adapts to its presence and learns to tolerate its encroachment on their lives until the pressure (psychological via economic) becomes too great and they crack up. Therefore, the silent weapon is a type of biological warfare. It attacks the vitality, options, and mobility of the individuals of a society by knowing, understanding, manipulating, and attacking their sources of natural and social energy, and their physical, mental, and emotional strengths and weaknesses. |
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