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A secret global conspiracy of game developers that control society?
August 11th 2001, 13:38 CEST by Tommy

I am not sure if this deserves its own topic (<i>it does - mr0n the phantom ed</i>) but as a common lurker I didn't feel I could just drop it carte blanche into whatever topic thread was currently underway.

A friend told me about this site: <a href="http://www.gameilluminati.com">http://www.gameilluminati.com</a>

That is apparently a members only bulletin board.  You cannot access it without a password.  Apparently it is 'invitation only' for industry people.  Beyond the password members enter a holy grail of mature discussions and non- flaming objective discussions about the merits of games, as debated by an elite few.

Interestingly enough, this board is registered to a one George Broussard, he of 3D Realms fame.

Unfortunately, I myself work for a Publisher and am hence patently evil, so will no doubt never get to feast on the intellectual riches within (it's for developers who have shipped titles only). I would be interested to know if loyal PlanetCrappers from the development side have been exposed to the joys of www.gameilluminati.com and if so, if perhaps they could 'illuminate' us on the merits of this site?

Is this a joyous site, protecting true captains of the industry and allowing them a safe haven for discourse?

Or is this a dangerous and subversive, insidious form of elitism that harms us all? Could www.gameilluminati.com spell the end of our honorable PlanetCrap (<i>No! Never! - mr0n the phantom ed</i>)?  Will we see gamesbiz professionals flee in search of greener, safer pastures yonder?

Please Comment and discuss.  Me, I'm just fascinated and nosey.
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#39 by "shaithis"
2001-08-11 23:41:06
chrisb@gamespy.com http://www.gamespy.com
"The first rule of making a fight-club joke is to make sure the joke hasn't already been made in the same thread."

-shai
#40 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-08-11 23:43:28
warren@epicgames.com www.epicgames.com
"The first rule of making a fight-club joke is to make sure the joke hasn't already been made in the same thread."

lol.  OWNED!  :)
#41 by "jafd"
2001-08-11 23:47:42
kallisti@hell.com http://jafd.isfuckingbrilliant.com
It's a brilliant thing. I swear, just two days ago, I was thinking about the glorious flame-free bullshit-less sanctuary that having created real product gives one access to: take me for example. I've got a few clever ideas, most will admit, but I clearly don't care right now about how and where and why I wave them around, and I've got no tangible evidence that I can show to anyone that says, "See, I really do know what I'm talking about." So, duh. I don't get to sit at the big kid's table, and I definitely don't get to see what's on the menu.

Sigh. If only I had buried the box of money in my backyard while I was thinking of it, who knows where I might be now...

My hat's off to you, George. I always knew, that just because you had a hand in creating some of the most soulless and shallow products ever made, that was no indication that you weren't clearly a man of some significant intellect.

It just so happens, my name that I use here is an acronym with sekrit ties to the Illuminati. I'm quite serious. If you would be so generous as to grant me lurker-only status over there, I'd be happy to sign whatever kind of binding NDA you'd require. I'm honest; make me a fair bribe, and I'll stay bought. It is clear that more exposure to how successful adults behave can only benefit me, yes?
#42 by "Rambar"
2001-08-11 23:58:55
http://www.opencrap.org
Is this a joyous site, protecting true captains of the industry and allowing them a safe haven for discourse?


Wel it will be for a while.  Then Developer A, who's been hiding a secret grudge against Developer B for accidently bumping into him at E3 and never apologizing, decides to create a geocities site and put the contents of Developer B's flamewar with Developer C up for all the world to see.
#43 by "Spatula Man"
2001-08-12 00:04:21
llama@verbalchilli.com www.verbalchilli.com
Jafd, casually interested in what ties your name has to the Illuminati I did a quick search on Google to find:...

Jedi Apprentice: Fan Dimension
Jaist Aggressive Flying Disc club
Japan FM Data Broadcast (why this was abbreviated to JAFD I'm not sure)
and a particular model of a kind of "foam tank", whatever the whippity-snaps that is.

I'm guessing that it still remains a mystery.
#44 by "RedLine"
2001-08-12 00:05:15
redline@realitypod.net
The first rule of making a smartass comment is a little setup so the other 97% of people know who you're talking to and what you're talking about (That excludes the 3% of people who just naturally "get" these kinds of things)
#45 by "jafd"
2001-08-12 00:10:29
kallisti@hell.com http://jafd.isfuckingbrilliant.com
#43: Well, you know how it goes. I could tell you, but then...
#46 by "JMCDaveL"
2001-08-12 00:19:10
jmcdavel@mailandnews.com Official Kmart Employee of PlanetCrap
MAJESTIC
#47 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-08-12 00:20:15
warren@epicgames.com www.epicgames.com
jafd
My hat's off to you, George. I always knew, that just because you had a hand in creating some of the most soulless and shallow products ever made, that was no indication that you weren't clearly a man of some significant intellect.

And people wonder why illuminati exists?  :)
#48 by "jafd"
2001-08-12 00:46:45
kallisti@hell.com http://jafd.isfuckingbrilliant.com
#47: Bingo. In the same vein, please allow me to mention that for precisely those same reasons, I'm not going to decloak my speech in a place of public entertainment such as this. Must feed the crowd biscuits, not limbs.

BTW, how is it going? It has been almost nine days now, and I suspect you really are observant, despite your repeated claims to the contrary. 1/4 the suggested dosage ought to have been more than enough for you to collect enough data.

Since it is clear now you have access to a hobby of far greater interest and value than the mere playing of games, though, perhaps 8 weeks might be needed. Let me know if you need more time.
#49 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-08-12 00:57:31
warren@epicgames.com www.epicgames.com
#47: Bingo. In the same vein, please allow me to mention that for precisely those same reasons, I'm not going to decloak my speech in a place of public entertainment such as this. Must feed the crowd biscuits, not limbs.

BTW, how is it going? It has been almost nine days now, and I suspect you really are observant, despite your repeated claims to the contrary. 1/4 the suggested dosage ought to have been more than enough for you to collect enough data.

Since it is clear now you have access to a hobby of far greater interest and value than the mere playing of games, though, perhaps 8 weeks might be needed. Let me know if you need more time.

What?
#50 by "jafd"
2001-08-12 01:09:37
kallisti@hell.com http://jafd.isfuckingbrilliant.com
Oh, come now. Your credibility at playing dumb is totally non-existent now. Especially in this thread. Your cover is blown! La Resistance, lives on!

Look! I posted at #45... AND now at #50!! Two FIVES! Don't you see??!?! Don't expect me to believe that you are my puppet. I'm far too clever for that.

*ahem* On a serious note: if you are serious about not knowing, and are serious about wanting to, email me. Otherwise, don't fuck with Mr. Zero. Resistance is futile. Ninety-threeeeeeeeee, biznatch!
#51 by "Apache"
2001-08-12 01:12:35
ouch, maybe I should actually read the posts first. :-)
#52 by "szcx codemonkey"
2001-08-12 01:49:28
http://www.bavarianilluminati.net/
So it's true!  The Texas Gaming Mafia is related to the Illuminati.
#53 by "George Broussard"
2001-08-12 02:03:21
georgeb@3drealms.com
And just like that, Warren's out.
#54 by "jafd"
2001-08-12 02:07:17
kallisti@hell.com http://jafd.isfuckingbrilliant.com
DIBS ON HIS CHAIR!!!!!! SCORE!!!

Okay, now I just need to turn and face Bavaria while bleeding the virgin goat, and we're all set.
#55 by "Kelster"
2001-08-12 02:07:27
kelster@planettribes.com http://www.planettribes.com/
:o
#56 by "szcx codemonkey"
2001-08-12 02:11:18
http://www.bavarianilluminati.net/
Canadian Game Developer Dies in Freak Accident
RALEIGH, NC -- Canadian developer Warren Marshall was killed today when a piano fell on him.

"Don't blame me, I was walking my dog when all three cables critical to the suspension of the classic 1928 Blunther Grand Piano were cut," George Broussard said.
#57 by "shaithis"
2001-08-12 02:24:51
chrisb@gamespy.com http://www.gamespy.com
/\
   /  \
  /    \
 / (O) \
/         \
---------

Get it? It's a pyramid with the all-seeing eye? Get it?

AHAHAHAHAHA

HA


HA

-shai
(of course, mr0n's formatting stuff will probably gank those spaces anyway, and THEN who will look like a fool?)
#58 by "AtaRi."
2001-08-12 02:30:53
atari009@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/atari009
Hey jafd.. Lay off the crack.    And I have to disagree with your web address based on how you present yourself.  Not too brilliant.
#59 by "jafd"
2001-08-12 02:41:56
kallisti@hell.com http://jafd.isfuckingbrilliant.com
In a topic about the Illuminati, I'm being chastised for not being serious? oooooohkay.

What you clearly don't realize, is that I greatly enjoy it when sheople, such as yourself, identify the value that I have to offer as being valuless. Such gifts as I have to share are not for such as you.

It's a big timesaver, really, except when I'm feeling lazy and am participating in a wholly ludicrous discussion and decide to expend the energy to explain what ought to be self-evident. You... you... you have LOWERED my PRODUCTIVITY!

Expect snakes.
#60 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-08-12 02:45:20
warren@epicgames.com www.epicgames.com
And just like that, Warren's out.

Damn, busted.  :(
#61 by "jafd"
2001-08-12 03:07:12
kallisti@hell.com http://jafd.isfuckingbrilliant.com
#60: It's okay. Just hit F5 and you're the cabin boy again, no harm, no foul.
#62 by "EricFate"
2001-08-12 03:09:07
ericfate@yahoo.com
"Ewige Blumenkraft"
#63 by "Ryslin"
2001-08-12 04:03:51
(jumps down from the rafters)

i CAN"T BREATHE guys..


(giggles, gasps, giggles....passes out)
#64 by "shaithis"
2001-08-12 04:40:48
chrisb@gamespy.com http://www.gamespy.com
This whole thread would've been better if my pyramid had turned out.

-shai
#65 by "Rambar"
2001-08-12 05:35:16
http://www.opencrap.org
This whole thread would've been better if my pyramid had turned out.


Don't worry, I already found a hidden pyramid on my Diablo 2 box.
#66 by "JMCDaveL"
2001-08-12 05:49:25
jmcdavel@mailandnews.com Official Kmart Employee of PlanetCrap
FNORD
#67 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-08-12 05:49:40
Sore lobes
jafd = ?
(1) Mr. Circumlocution
(2) Mr. Mixed Metaphor  
(3) Mr. "If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit."
(4) Mr. "It's amazing how these drugs make such huge planks in my reasonable speech shatter to bits."
#68 by "Apache"
2001-08-12 05:58:43
I'd ask George for a login & pass (just to check it out) but I think the odds of getting a hands-on preview of DNF would be better. :)
#69 by "jafd"
2001-08-12 06:43:59
kallisti@hell.com http://jafd.isfuckingbrilliant.com
#67: Oh dear. I had been trying ever so hard to make a good impression on people just like you.

Perhaps I had better go huff more glue, then perhaps I'll be as clever and insightful as you are. Which brand do you use?
#70 by "Dumdeedum"
2001-08-12 06:53:24
With a name like Game Illuminati its bound to get up people's olfactory organs, it's one step away from pointing and laughing at folk while saying "I'm better than you! I'm better than you!" in a girly voice.

Anyway it's just a front, GeorgeB has just released ancient screenshots of it to members, and in a few months they'll decide to re-write what they have in perl.

---
Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes John Romero a star?
We do! We do!
#71 by "jafd"
2001-08-12 08:25:15
kallisti@hell.com http://jafd.isfuckingbrilliant.com
"I'm better than you! I'm better than you!"

In the context of creating games? Well, duh.
#72 by "shaithis"
2001-08-12 08:37:17
chrisb@gamespy.com http://www.gamespy.com
I have to agree with jafd:

They *are* better than the people who don't have access at making games. That's why they're professionals.

-shai
#73 by "Apache"
2001-08-12 08:46:16
Well, of course. (see jafd & shai's posts) they are the developers, and if they want to have an insider forum, I think they are more than welcome to. im not sure if anyone has touched on this before (gah, the whole reading the threads thing again) but is this whole story spawned out of the fact that a publisher tried to gain membership and he was rejected?
#74 by "JMCDaveL"
2001-08-12 09:12:06
jmcdavel@mailandnews.com Official Kmart Employee of PlanetCrap
Does your mullet have a separate login and pass George?

--jmc
#75 by "The All-Seeing Eye"
2001-08-12 09:29:38
        /\
      /    \
    /        \
  /    (o)    \
/                \
#76 by "The Eye's Base"
2001-08-12 09:32:06
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#77 by "Apache"
2001-08-12 09:35:50
woooooo! gg The All-Seeing Eye
#78 by "shaithis"
2001-08-12 10:00:41
chrisb@gamespy.com http://www.gamespy.com
YAY!

-shai
#79 by "JMCDaveL"
2001-08-12 10:07:14
jmcdavel@mailandnews.com Official Kmart Employee of PlanetCrap
Hmm Doom 3 will come out for Xbox as well...

And HALLEFUCKINLUJAH Trent Reznor is doing the score.

--jmc
#80 by "enyak"
2001-08-12 11:54:14
enyak@planetcrap.com
I'd prefer Goldsmith or Christopher Young. :)
#81 by "TheToadWarrior"
2001-08-12 11:54:58
toadwarrior@hotmail.com http://jove.prohosting.com/~toadw/
It's probably just a place where they pat each other on the back and talk about how they're so perfect and we're all a bunch of ungrateful cunts. That's not good reading if you ask me.
#82 by "szcx codemonkey"
2001-08-12 13:18:23
http://www.bavarianilluminati.net/
That's not good reading if you ask me.

That'd be because you're an ungrateful cunt.
#83 by "Dethstryk"
2001-08-12 15:05:10
jemartin@tcainternet.com http://thoughtcoma.dhs.org/
Hmm.. Thief II sits on my desk, begging to be played.

Should I install it and try it out? I'm a big fan of Deus Ex, and any kind of immersive FPS experience, so is it worth it?


--
Dethstryk
Thought Coma
#84 by "RedLine"
2001-08-12 16:05:56
redline@realitypod.net
/me measures the gap

Yep, no way a live, whole human could fit through there

/me steps through
#85 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-08-12 17:40:28
warren@epicgames.com www.epicgames.com
Toad
It's probably just a place where they pat each other on the back and talk about how they're so perfect and we're all a bunch of ungrateful cunts. That's not good reading if you ask me.

Glad you've got it all figured out and aren't just jumping to a stupid conclusion while having no facts.
#86 by "Preacher"
2001-08-12 18:12:29
preacher@unreality.org http://www.unreality.org
*Pats Warren on the back*
#87 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-08-12 18:38:02
warren@epicgames.com www.epicgames.com
*panics and wonders why Preacher is behind him*
#88 by "szcx codemonkey"
2001-08-12 19:05:30
http://www.bavarianilluminati.net/
No need to panic, Warren.  It's Preacher, not Catholic Priest ;-)
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