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#99 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 06:33:03
Piss off f
Witt, if the dilemma is so far over your head, it's better to remain quiet than label depth as something trivial.
#100 by "Rambar"
2001-07-16 06:42:02
You're mistaken Witt.  Planetcrap is about smothering the trolls in, well, shit. :)
Choke on your self-rightesousness dinglehoffen.
#101 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 06:47:33
Piss off f
"Choke on your self-rightesousness dinglehoffen."

Oh the wit. Oh the heights of the most Karmic thoughts. Oh the gift of intellect! What bountiful gems of wisdom usher forth from the imaginative realm of the human mind. What glory, what splendor! If I were to live a thousand years, never would I behold such verbal dexterity, nor loftiness of thought.

Pffft.
#102 by "hiredgoons"
2001-07-16 06:49:27
dburoker@home.com
#82 "Dinglehoffen" wrote...
Do you know that a large portion of my job is trying to fix the carnage that results from sexually abused children?


What is your job?
#103 by "Glock"
2001-07-16 06:53:22
glock17@tampabay.rr.com
1)One teen was sodomized four times then tied to a water-well rope and hung there for a half-hour. His father then untied him, raped him again, and tied him to the back of an old bus for two days.


That father deserves to be tortured, slowly and painfully, his balls cut off, and his head bashed in with a pipe wrench.

Cocksuckers like that deserve death.  No jury, no judge, just a summary execution.
#104 by "BarneyQue"
2001-07-16 06:56:19
barneyque@hotmail.com
#103 "Glock" wrote...
Cocksuckers like that deserve death. No jury, no judge, just a summary execution.


Provided of course that it's all true.  

Oh wait, we need a jury, and a judge to make that call.  Ooops.
#105 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 07:01:13
Piss off f
The father killed the mother and is in jail. The molestation was completely undershadowed. The neighbors witnessed many other acts that I won't even mention but they were afraid to call the police for fear of their lives.

I'll leave the discussion here. I've made my point. Pedophilia is one - if not THE most - of the most life-ruining, hate-engendering crimes on this planet. It's not a "funny tag".

That's all.
#106 by "Whisp"
2001-07-16 07:08:57
#87 Dinglehoffen wrote...
I could go on and on. Like the character in a Dickens novel, you're ignorant of "need and hunger." You're nothing: and I'd rather be a prick five times over than live with the mindset that could plug that type of response.


1. #479 Graeme Devine to save AO...  
I also read the Warren Marshall interview at the other gaming site, and the whole thing could be narrowed down to this:

1)I'm Warren Marshall. Wheel of Time rocked. But it flopped because of the most pathetic spell interface ever conceived in the game genre.
2)I do design stuff for Epic. We're making some dopey Uneal Warfare mod that'll most likely die as quickly as WoT, but that's a secret.
3)All my ideas that are flops come out of my imagination.

2.  #480 Graeme Devine to save AO...
Ya know, where's Andy? Why would the "substitute" or whomever is running this site continaully spam it with stupid AO shit that no one cares about?

3.  #539 Graeme Devine to save AO...
Man, and I thought my nip-and-tuck posts were lame. I never realized until now how utterly pathetic flamethrower is. Poor dude's trashy life must be irredeemable. Suggestion: get rid of your computer for one month. Watch what happens.

4.  #550 Graeme Devine to save AO...
I come here and post just to goof off. Now and again, when I have time to waste, I enjoy just posting penny-ante stuff just for the sake of entertainment. But when I see how much time and effort you guys invest into typing gobbledygook about the most ridiculous topics - topics that don't go anywhere, but disappear into the nothingness of the archives - I'm blown away at how you can justify your lack of productivity! Don't you guys have jobs?

5.  #55 C-Shirts coming soon!
Oh, how wonderful. How original. How thought-provoking. A T-shirt that says "Planet CRAP". You'll be the talk of the town; you'll fit right in; your mother will hug you; your friends will be jealous; your children will look up to you as a fine example of taste and quality. By all means, get 'em while they're hot.

#107 by "BarneyQue"
2001-07-16 07:09:31
barneyque@hotmail.com
#105 "Dinglehoffen" wrote...
The father killed the mother and is in jail. The molestation was completely undershadowed. The neighbors witnessed many other acts that I won't even mention but they were afraid to call the police for fear of their lives.

I'll leave the discussion here. I've made my point. Pedophilia is one - if not THE most - of the most life-ruining, hate-engendering crimes on this planet. It's not a "funny tag".

That's all.



Not to split hairs too much here, but I'm thinking the crime you really hate, specifically, is incest. Pedophilia to me, is a legal term which has changed over the years, and varies by country.
#108 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 07:11:02
Piss off f
You left many out.

I post nothing but gobbledygood here, but pedophilia isn't something I consider humorous. So...what's your point?
#109 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 07:13:01
Piss off f
"Not to split hairs too much here, but I'm thinking the crime you really hate, specifically, is incest. Pedophilia to me, is a legal term which has changed over the years, and varies by country."

I understand the difference between incest and pedophilia. Read the other two cases I listed. I'm sorry but I couldn't resist the response.
#110 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-07-16 07:13:53
warren@epicgames.com epicboy.flipcode.com
Dinglehoffen (#101):
"Choke on your self-rightesousness dinglehoffen."

Oh the wit. Oh the heights of the most Karmic thoughts. Oh the gift of intellect! What bountiful gems of wisdom usher forth from the imaginative realm of the human mind. What glory, what splendor! If I were to live a thousand years, never would I behold such verbal dexterity, nor loftiness of thought.

Pffft.

Were you abused as a child or something?

Whisp (#106):
*applause*

#111 by "Chet"
2001-07-16 07:15:39
chet@oldmanmurray.com http://www.oldmanmurray.com
#92 by Dinglehoffen
Third, if everyone went around on the net in some watered-down, dishrag neutrality, then WHERE WOULD WE BE? If a person can advertise himself as a pedophiliac and laugh - in other words, if a person can advertise their lack of a "moral line" - then why can't one advertise their presence of one without you getting upset? Is it because you're so immersed in the lack of value that you no longer recognize or appreciate it in yourself? Taking a stand on against pedophilia upset you; why didn't the former upset you, eh? Sad.


Thank you for stating my point again.  Everyone has a line they won't cross.  You have yours  - others have other lines.  You are trying to say your line is the ultimate line- while you might then make a crack joke that would be equally offensive to someone who lost a family member to crack - or a joke that refrences AIDS - to someone that would be the ultimate.  There comes a point when you grow up that you realize you cannot be over the top serious about every single subject - you can't.  you would grow crazy and you would demand an Internet which I described.  I have run into people who went crazy over a line about a pets death - everyone has a line.  It is different for everyone.  You obviously have this feeling that everything centers around you and your world - you are the most important thing and the ideas you have the most important and your moral lines the most important.

You are why the world has wars.

Chet
#112 by "Glock"
2001-07-16 07:18:24
glock17@tampabay.rr.com
The father killed the mother and is in jail. The molestation was completely undershadowed. The neighbors witnessed many other acts that I won't even mention but they were afraid to call the police for fear of their lives.


Strange.... the man is a murderer, and will probably face a firing squad (that's a legal method of death in Utah...or was it hanging?).  And yet the neighbors are still afraid.

Jesus, get them some pistols and some shotguns and teach them how to use it safely and affectively.  If the guys somehow escapes and tracks the neighbors down, the neighbors will put a round of buckshot in his ass, or a couple of 9mm's in his chest.

Is America become so pussified (no offense to women, but you get what I mean) that people are helpless?  I don't know about you guys, but a person like that doesn't faze me.  *racks the slide on his Mossberg 500 Persuader and then loads a clip into his Glock 9mm*. :)
#113 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 07:19:26
Piss off f
"Were you abused as a child or something?"

You're a day late and a dollar short. Try reading the posts before you comment, flophouse. Again, let me say that because I refuse to answer that question doesn't mean I was abused and doesn't mean I wasn't; the very nature of the question does not violate my person as you intended it to. But I would like to say this: I would rather be severely abused and on the road to recovery than crystal clean and living within the mindset that instigated you to ask a question like that. When you look into the eyes of child that has been abused, you'll change forever. Suddenly, your joke will disgust you.
#114 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-07-16 07:20:21
warren@epicgames.com epicboy.flipcode.com
Glock (#112):
Is America become so pussified (no offense to women, but you get what I mean) that people are helpless? I don't know about you guys, but a person like that doesn't faze me. *racks the slide on his Mossberg 500 Persuader and then loads a clip into his Glock 9mm*. :)

That's lovely bravado but I wonder how you'd actually react in that situation.  In real life I mean, not in your mind.
#115 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-07-16 07:21:32
warren@epicgames.com epicboy.flipcode.com
Dinglehoffen (#113):
You're a day late and a dollar short. Try reading the posts before you comment, flophouse. Again, let me say that because I refuse to answer that question doesn't mean I was abused and doesn't mean I wasn't; the very nature of the question does not violate my person as you intended it to. But I would like to say this: I would rather be severely abused and on the road to recovery than crystal clean and living within the mindset that instigated you to ask a question like that. When you look into the eyes of child that has been abused, you'll change forever. Suddenly, your joke will disgust you.

Uh huh.  I'm just glad I have a button to push now.  This is gonna be great!
#116 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 07:23:04
Piss off f
"You are why the world has wars."


HAHAHAHA! ROFLMAO! Oh yes, YES! I AM WHY THE WORLD HAS WARS! In complete alignment with the laws of my country - that of which is against pedophilia and child abuse - and taking a stand on it -  I AM THE CAUSE OF WARS!

OH MAN! Heheh...do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Your own zeal which prompted you to make such a ludicrous statement shows your own zeal for your "line." However, you made me smile in the midst of this topic, so I owe you.
#117 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 07:25:59
Piss off f
"Uh huh. I'm just glad I have a button to push now. This is gonna be great!"

Fantastic. I'll have to save those posts. They might come in handy sometime.

As for the topic, I'm spent. Flame and rant away, I have nothing left. :)
#118 by "Chet"
2001-07-16 07:27:18
chet@oldmanmurray.com http://www.oldmanmurray.com
Thanks again for proving your ignorance - your failure to address the point of the post was very Andy.
#119 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 07:28:39
Piss off f
And your failure to prove yours was very Chet.
#120 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-07-16 07:28:57
warren@epicgames.com epicboy.flipcode.com
Dinglehoffen (#117):
Fantastic. I'll have to save those posts. They might come in handy sometime.

LOL

As for the topic, I'm spent. Flame and rant away, I have nothing left. :)

You didn't have anything to begin with, Sparky.
#121 by "Chet"
2001-07-16 07:29:55
chet@oldmanmurray.com http://www.oldmanmurray.com
Dingle - since you seem to want to equate not being offended by every mention of pedophiles to being a pedophile - do you have any pictures you can post to show some of what you are talking about?

Thanks from me and the rest of the pedophiles.
#122 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 07:30:41
Piss off f
"You didn't have anything to begin with, Sparky."

Kind of like your "Wheel of Time."
#123 by "hiredgoons"
2001-07-16 07:32:21
dburoker@home.com
Dinglehoffen -

I'll ask again.  What is your job?
#124 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-07-16 07:35:43
warren@epicgames.com epicboy.flipcode.com
Dinglehoffen (#122):
"You didn't have anything to begin with, Sparky."

Kind of like your "Wheel of Time."

Now it's my Wheel of Time?  At this rate, I'll soon be credited with creating the entire game single handedly.  This rules!

Is the ammunition hopper empty already?  Don't pull a Flamethrower and reach for the stand-by Wheel of Time comments.  Be a proud troll ... come up with something good!
#125 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 07:37:41
Piss off f
Hiredgoons, if you were asking for the right reasons I'd tell you in a heartbeat. But I'm afraid that since I took a stand on a sickening topic it wouldn't be worth the investment. Sorry...you seem to be the only one who has maintained a sense of civility in your line of questioning - myself excluded, of course. :)
#126 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 07:42:13
Piss off f
Warren, that was very good.  Your response reveals an uncomfortable shift in tone. I'm satisfied.
#127 by "Glock"
2001-07-16 07:43:13
glock17@tampabay.rr.com
That's lovely bravado but I wonder how you'd actually react in that situation. In real life I mean, not in your mind.


The same way as in my mind.

For example:

Say 3 years from now, I live out on my own in a house out in a rural area.  Now, I just recently move in, so I don't know anyone around me.

I see the stepfather of the house next door, screaming and yelling, blood on his hands.  He's in the back, dragging his stepdaugher (or stepson, doesn't matter) across the ground.  The shock of it lasts a few seconds, then I realize that he's actually on the ground raping his stepkid.

In Florida, I can legally go up to him and put a bullet through his temple.   No warnings, no ultimatums.  The evidence in that case would be incontrovertible.  The stepdad (now a dead-dad *snicker*), has a lot of evidence against him.  The kid has signs of rape (which an exam on the kid and a autopsy on the stepdad can determine).  The blood on his hands are his wife's, who's now dead.

No cop in his right fucking mind would arrest me, nor would any DA prosecute me, because the law and the caselaw is clear that warnings and ultimatums are not neccesary to use deadly force.  The family of the stepdad can't sue either because of the facts of the evidence, he was responsible for the death of his wife, and the multiple rapes of his stepchild.

I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep, afterwards.  I can't feel sorry for sick fucks like that.
#128 by "hiredgoons"
2001-07-16 07:43:21
dburoker@home.com
#125 "Dinglehoffen" wrote...
if you were asking for the right reasons I'd tell you in a heartbeat


I can't tell from your response if you are prejudging my reasons and their "rightness" or not.  So, I'll be forthcoming about my reasons.  I was just curious -- I read your first post and was curious about what you did that had you involved in the care of abused children.

#129 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 07:45:35
Piss off f
I'm a Level 3 State Counselor and Firearms trainer.
#130 by "Chet"
2001-07-16 07:46:44
chet@oldmanmurray.com http://www.oldmanmurray.com
Dingle,
If we can start asking questions - can you clear a few up for me?

Is it really too late if they are eight?

If they are old enough to bleed -are they really old enough to need?


Thanks!
#131 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-07-16 07:47:15
warren@epicgames.com epicboy.flipcode.com
Dinglehoffen (#126):
Warren, that was very good. Your response reveals an uncomfortable shift in tone. I'm satisfied.

"uncomfortable shift"
"I'm satisified."

Are these phrases you remember from your fathers nightly visits?

Glock (#127):
I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep, afterwards. I can't feel sorry for sick fucks like that.

Oh OK.  I wasn't aware you were going to create a situation based completely in fantasy to prove your point.  I stand corrected.
#132 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 07:51:17
Piss off f
Heh...I'm enjoying it as much as you are. If I wasn't sexually abused as a child, then you are revealing a pretty sadistic side to your character. I don't mind that a bit! Rant on!
#133 by "Chet"
2001-07-16 07:54:50
chet@oldmanmurray.com http://www.oldmanmurray.com
I almost forgot.

Dingle if you need an email address I have the domain for you:

www.daddyshand.com
#134 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-07-16 07:55:18
warren@epicgames.com epicboy.flipcode.com
Dinglehoffen (#132):
Heh...I'm enjoying it as much as you are. If I wasn't sexually abused as a child, then you are revealing a pretty sadistic side to your character. I don't mind that a bit! Rant on!

That's a nice cover, but judging from your previous reactions and rantings in this thread I'd say it's a fairly thin one.

Or ... you don't really feel that strongly about the subject after all.
#135 by "Glock"
2001-07-16 07:56:22
glock17@tampabay.rr.com
Oh OK. I wasn't aware you were going to create a situation based completely in fantasy to prove your point. I stand corrected.


Listen, Warren, I have no idea what EXACTLY I'm going to do in those kinds of situations.  No one can say absolutely for sure what they would do.  All I know is I will not cower in fear like those neighbors in Utah who were afraid of that sodomizing murderer in Dinglehoffen's first situation.  Also, I'm not afraid of guns, period.  

Btw, my "fantasy" situation is loosely based on that situation.

Dinglehoffen, if you are a firearms trainer, I highly suggest you train those neighbors to stop being cowardly folks and teach them the tools to defend themselves so they won't be so afraid.

Okay, I was wrong. I would have nightmares about how the child feels, knowing that the kid will be basically scarred for the rest of his life.
#136 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 08:01:39
Piss off f
"Or ... you don't really feel that strongly about the subject after all."

No, I don't feel strongly about it - insofar as your posts are concerned - for two reasons:

1)The spirit in which your jests are intended differs from my initial post in reaction to joker's tag. Warren, it's not my cover, it's yours: you cover your own lack of love and empathy with callous disregard to try to hurt someone. And, as I said before, if I wasn't abused as a child, and your jests are directed at me, I don't mind one whittle.

2)If I valued or looked up to the person making the jest toward me, I would consider it, and possibly be hurt for awhile. If I didn't - in other words, if it came from a has-been game designer whose games didn't sell shit - then I am able to laugh along with them. :)
#137 by "Dethstryk"
2001-07-16 08:03:27
jemartin@tcainternet.com http://www.cox-internet.com/dethstryk/
Dinglehoffen pulled an Apache and came right back when he was spent. Classic.

No offense to Apache intended.


--
Dethstryk
#138 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 08:05:01
Piss off f
"Dinglehoffen pulled an Apache and came right back when he was spent. Classic.

No offense to Apache intended."

Guilty.
#139 by "Chet"
2001-07-16 08:08:02
chet@daddyshand.com http://www.daddyshand.com
Warren - you are just using this because deep down - you hurt.  I understand.  Everything in the world revolves around this subject.  You were molested...  its okay.  You hurt.  Don't worry, you can tell Uncle Chet all about it, and when you do - can you please try to include pictures?

Thanks

Chet
#140 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 08:15:41
Piss off f
Chet -

You seem to be overly concerned about "daddy's hand", websites, and pictures that deal with child pornography, abuse, and incest. In my generous nature, I will gladly abide by the rules of professional courtesy. I can help you, but you must be willing to be helped and you must understand that progress is measureable over time. We have a great staff here, and yet by law we must ask that your father and family attend counseling either as a group or as individuals.

I'm here, and someone cares. God cares. You're here for a reason.
#141 by "Glock"
2001-07-16 08:17:40
glock17@tampabay.rr.com
Hey, Dinglehoffen, did you read anything I typed?
#142 by "Darkseid-D"
2001-07-16 08:20:23
Darkseid@Captured.com www.sluggy.com
*picks up Lart of correction +4*

*proceeds to deploy LART across thread with judicious measure*




Cut this shit out, right the fuck now, it aint a joking matter no matter how the material is presented or how cack handed the presenter approached it.

In summary

Abuse, rape, paedophilia, buggery == unfunny
Pompous attitudes, holier than than thou == unfunny
Giving people who deal with real life shit, virtual shit == uneeded
Tossing 'you must have been abused' lines at people == unfunny


Mock the attitude if you must, just leave the work alone.


Ds

#143 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 08:25:33
Piss off f
Yes sir! By default I usually train those who are sent to me from the police. Most of them are scared for any of several reasons. I've thought about giving public training and concealed permit training, but my time committments don't allow it. I noticed your nik is Glock: my current handguns of choice are a S&W .357 Combat 586 Special and a Mark XIX .44 Desert Eagle. I do all my own loading and grain counts. I'm into guns.
#144 by "Dethstryk"
2001-07-16 08:28:04
jemartin@tcainternet.com http://www.cox-internet.com/dethstryk/
I wish I could get into guns, but any of the ones I would actually want are illegal. :/


--
Dethstryk
#145 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-07-16 08:39:19
Piss off f
Well, this topic is sufficiently spent. I've really enjoyed this little chat. We'll have to do lunch sometime. Allrighty then, bye bye now. =)
#146 by "Chet"
2001-07-16 08:43:21
chet@daddyshand.com http://www.daddyshand.com
I can't believe you didn't say, 'Signing off" and salute the screen.  Hopefully you will continue tomorrow - you crack me up.  The more you speak - the more you show the workings of your simple mind.  You must be a happy man - in that same kind of happiness a mongoloid has.

Chet
#147 by "JMCDaveL"
2001-07-16 08:52:34
jmcdavel@mailandnews.com http://www.cosmicrift.com
Can we not get a decent troll in here these days? Bah, he uses the standard holier-than-thou speech model but doesn't say very much (like me, but hey, at least I don't proclaim to care). Maybe if we ask nicely Uncle Derek Smart can come back.. or Jeet.

--jmc
#148 by "m0nty"
2001-07-16 09:03:22
paul.montgomery@delphigroup.com.au www.delphigroup.com.au
Personally, I blame that Pearl Harbour movie.
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