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E3, the Video Game Industry and Sex
May 22nd 2001, 20:59 MSD by Chris Abele In a <a href="http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/05/22/e3_2001/index.html" target="_blank">recent article</a> appearing on Salon.Com, writer Wagner James Au discussed an important problem that the video gaming industry continues to ignore: does the rampant selling of sex create a good basis for industry growth? Here's his piece's tagline: The soft-porn fixation embarrassingly displayed at computer gaming's biggest convention, E3, is dooming the $6 billion industry to the nerd-geek ghetto. Now, I liked the booth babes at E3 as much as the next guy, but there's a real problem with the way E3, the premiere event of the video gaming industry, presents itself and its products to the public. E3 should represent the best and brightest in gaming, but instead it's a trade event which ends up promoting video games via scantily clad women with large bosums. While it certainly serves to maximize the appeal to the 13 to 31 year old white male demographic, it also manages to quickly eliminate many other customers. While it's plain to see that it eliminates 90% of women, it also drives home a negative connotation with middle-aged family men. Many of them may draw the conclusion that these games are juvenile and immature. And in fact, some of them are. But many are not and are instead associated with that negative connotation. Those two important demographics represent two crucial failings of the video game industry: it too often alienates women and too often drives away potential advertisering dollars, something those of us running web sites could certainly use more of right now. The gaming industry can never be legitimate as long as it sells to the lowest common denominator. So how does the gaming press and the gaming industry create a legitimate environment to attract and not repel the rest of society? One lesson may be learned from ESPN (the American sports-only channel). Before ESPN, sports was something that was largely neglected in mass media. While exceptions exist, it wasn't until ESPN came along and began treating sports news as the equivalent to national news. That is, they reported on sports as professional journalists did: sending out reporters to events, presenting news and information in a professional manner akin to the the major networks, and so on. The formula worked for ESPN and sports became a respected news item despite the fact that many popular American sports have cheerleaders (aka, booth babes) on the sidelines. The video gaming industry and the journalists who cover it could certainly stand to learn from ESPN's example. |
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I'm really suprised about the number (and amount of drooling coverage) of booth babes at E3. It seems like the relic of a dying era. I've been at most of the NAB (national association of broadcasters) convention over the last decade or so, and there are almost no booth bunnies now. NAB is a very technical show - it's about gear - and is as heavily male as I imagine E3 to be, but the number of babes is quite low, especially considering that it's in Vegas. There are often cute chicks in the booths, but they are usually low-level marketing/sales types, not just models. There are a always a few models in the japanese camera exhibits, but there has to be somebody to check skin tones on, so they usually don't talk (they just sit there to provide a focal point). Seven or eight years ago, there were a lot of professional babes out there, giving away popcorn, getting business cards, bringing attention. There was also a lot more swag back then too - tshirts, balls, whacky giveaways, etc. But I guess that it turns out that babes, like swag, don't bring in the RIGHT people - buyers. Let's face it; people go to NAB to know what equipment is out there so they know what to buy. You can always go into strip clubs, or buy tshirts, but you can't always relentlessly quiz every company about capabilities, release dates, upgrades, etc, and see a lot of demos in a short time. I don't see why E3 should be different. As much as I like strippers, I can't imagine that a stripper will get you business from a single distributor or retailer that you wouldn't have already. People may develop games for love and money, but I think they only sell them for money..... |
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What the hell is this but some guilt ridden writer for Salon.com trying to put everyone below him for attending a show with "dorks" and "people that stare at booth babes". He's obviously above such things, and he tells you again and again. |
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#36 "Darkseid-D!" wrote... whats the difference between E3 booth babes.. They do tend to be a it better at the major shows for other things (for example yes you will see booth babes at the major car shows but most at most of the big stuff they're more likly to be dressed in something you'd see on Wheel of Fortune not Real Sex, again the automotive aftermarket and some europen shows tend to have a much higher E3 like babeige). Plus their not selling to some 17 year old store manager or web guy, but generaly much older press people. |
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If you must pay a woman cash money so she will hang out at your show/booth/party, you are lame. If you think that the transaction will somehow elevate you/your product/organization in the public eye, you are an idiot, or just lying to yourself. I'm not making this up. It's in the bible or something. |
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Dry brambles blow through the forum.... |
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Ok, Wagner James Au isn't qualified to be writing about games. Particularly for such a vast amount of people. I can't wait for OMM to lay into him again...maybe someday he'll actually see it? nah... But I must jump to Salon.com's defence. It's a fantastic site that's in some rocky surf right now financially, but they consistently come out with some high quality, readable journalism. |
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I am proud to say I am a nerd. Does anyone really care if gaming becomes mainstream? I guess all the industry people do, because more money is a good thing, but what about the gamers? I am a gamer and I say fuck the mainstream. If you had a choice between strippers and models or no women, what would you choose? I would choose the women. Don't worry about the perception of gaming, worry about the games and the games will attract the people. Plus all those horny 13 year olds that apparently are the focus of the advertising, they do age, you know? Grab them now and once they grow up, you will have the mainstream. Kids, they are the future! #0 "Chris Abele" wrote... The gaming industry can never be legitimate as long as it sells to the lowest common denominator. And something that this reminded me of here. |
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I think that the booth babes are awful awful awful. The hookers are supposed to work outside the convention hall. If developers want to draw attention to themselves, there's better ways. Those that lack the imagination to do so indicate to me that their product will be similarly lacking. I could pay $1,000 a day to some woman with no talent save her looks to stand in front a booth, but all that says about the game is that money has been set aside to put a girl in front of a booth. Hoo-fucking-ray. How about spending some of that money to get your character's eyebrows to move, Mr. Miller? |
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I like boobies |
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Haven't seen any women commenting on this yet, so I'll jump in. This was my second E3 (and there were a lot more booth babes at last year's), and I cover it as a writer. It's almost as much for me to watch my male coworkers react to the booth babes as it is for them to actually watch the booth babes. People often ask me what I think of the booth babes as a woman on the press side of the industry. On a personal level, it actually makes me really uncomfortable to have to stand next to one of them while I'm trying to talk seriously about a game with the development team. I've never been able to pinpoint why exactly, but I'm sure it's on a subconscious self-esteem level. If I'm trying to discuss the per-polygon detection system of SoFII's GHOUL II tech with someone while a bubble Wolfenstein booth babe is fawning over a bunch of guys next to me, I feel like...funny. I can't quite explain why. For this reason, I would be happy to see no booth babes at events like E3, but that doesn't mean I'm opposed to having them there. I'm not prudish. I'm a heterosexual woman, and even I'll admit that booth babes are simply very eye-catching and many of them are stunning to look at, even for me. I've always kind of thought of them as harmless eye candy that no one really takes seriously. They are pure, unabashed entertainment, and E3 is nothing if not about entertainment. It also knows its target audience, which are horny guys who want to play games. Basically, I think there's a time and a place for everything. Porn, half-naked women (and men), I'm all for it -- in the proper place at the proper time. I've always felt torn between the need to kind of stand up for my gender and say, "this makes us non-booth babe women feel excluded" (because it does feel that way to me in a small way) and the honest feeling I have that it's really just harmless entertainment that no one takes seriously. In the end, it's all about the games, and that's what people remember. I find it just as entertaining to watch women in vinyl 70's style catsuits promoting a game as the guys do, but I find it entertaining in a different way. I just wish that when I was trying to seriously cover a game and talk about it with the developers, I didn't have to compete for attention spans with the booth models. |
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Random thought of the nanosecond: I think the fact that we're thinking and talking about this issue means that there's still hope for the games industry. And now I'm off to bed. :( - Morn |
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It's a good article but it also represents the computer industry as a whole. Even your standard computer exhibition/show has booth babes. Still would it be otherwise ? When you see some of the people who attend E3 (I have seen many photos with huge bearded men and skinny translucent underweight guys who probably haven't seen the sunny side of a woman in five years) I guess the booth babe is the perfect attraction. Some of the "professional" gaming press are also to blame. How many times have I read journalists eagerly discussing their freebies and drinking junkets as the sole reason for attending E3. It is a wonder anyone finds any real information at E3. I will never forget one of the computer exhibitions I had to manage for my company where we had run out of press kits (which included a free organiser) and a journalist demanded she get her free kit or else she would never review another one of our products. I have no respect for some of these idiots. |
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In the end, it's all about the games, and that's what people remember. I find it just as entertaining to watch women in vinyl 70's style catsuits promoting a game as the guys do, but I find it entertaining in a different way. I just wish that when I was trying to seriously cover a game and talk about it with the developers, I didn't have to compete for attention spans with the booth models. And there is an important point. And looking at the evil avatar forums, so many developers don't actually understand. Hey, I'm italian, when I'm not thinking about sex, I'm thinking about sex. But it has little to do with games, unless they are a hell of a lot better than anything I've seen of late. Eye candy - c'mon, program your eye candy, and go find a real date. You can't buy either. LPMiller Chief News Editor Got|Apex? |
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Money spent on marketing generally does not come from the development budget. E3 is a marketing circus. Exhibitors are there to be noticed. Nothing more, nothing less. If booth babes get people to stop and spend a few minutes playing your game, then mission accomplished. It's not Scott Miller or Marketing Drone #39221's fault that the public are so shallow that they'll take Hot Chicks™ over Real-Time Tesselated Ass Hairs™. |
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#6 "Gabe" wrote... And the point of the press is to convey the information to the public. Well, I don't know about you, Gabe, but when I was writing my E3 updates, I was focusing on the games and the systems, not on the booth babes. The only time I can think of that I mentioned babes at all would be in discussions of the "Promised Lot", and only because G.O.D. seemed to be stressing 'party' a lot harder than they were stressing 'games'. |
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[quote[That means no clawing after t-shirts being thrown into a crowd of sweaty Funco and EB managers and their buddies by the hottie Eidos girls. I also know well that I'm not the only journalist who actively *avoids* booths with an overemphasis on booth babes.. Absolutely. Something about my gig being taken so seriously by the presenters there made me behave like a much more serious journalist than usual, and for me, serious means not posing with booth babes when there are press kits and business cards you still haven't gotten for companies you want to cover in the upcoming year. On a tangental E3 note - anyone have any tips for minimizing foot agony? I could really use a couple of those for next year. Yeowch! |
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Argh. Proofread before you click post, Quatoria... |
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From the article: A creative director for a leading development team cheerfully described to me how its Q.A. team made a prostitute sport a game's logo on her body during a combination gonzo video/gangbang session. Hey Chet, maybe Warren is right. You don't see this a lot in corporate IT. - [g.man] |
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I got a pic of one of the Wolfenstein chicks.. She's sittin on the Hummer and she's not wearing any panties :D GAMES ROCK!!!!!!!!! AHAGAGGHAGHAGHAGHAGHAGHAGHAGHAAAAAAAAAA |
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Mike Fehlauer (#38): You've gotta admit that all the babes trivialize the show. Why don't they trivialize the grammies? Or sports? Or any other kind of show/convention? None-1a (#46): They do tend to be a it better at the major shows for other things (for example yes you will see booth babes at the major car shows but most at most of the big stuff they're more likly to be dressed in something you'd see on Wheel of Fortune not Real Sex, again the automotive aftermarket and some europen shows tend to have a much higher E3 like babeige). Well, remember that the booth babes at E3 are usually dressed up like the characters for whatever game they're promoting. They aren't standing there in bikini's or whatever this article would lead you to believe. Yes, the outfits are revealing, but that's how the characters in the games dress. Not that I agree with that in the first place ... but ... uh ... anyway ... Matt Gallant (#51): I think that the booth babes are awful awful awful. The hookers are supposed to work outside the convention hall. That's nice. They couldn't be girls trying to break into modelling or anything like that ... no ... they must be whores. LPMiller (#56): And there is an important point. And looking at the evil avatar forums, so many developers don't actually understand. Hey, I'm italian, when I'm not thinking about sex, I'm thinking about sex. But it has little to do with games, unless they are a hell of a lot better than anything I've seen of late. Eye candy - c'mon, program your eye candy, and go find a real date. You can't buy either. Demoing on the floor is hopeless regardless. The noise, the crowd, etc. The only real way to demo a game is in the back rooms ... and guess what? No booth babes! Michael Wedge (#59): On a tangental E3 note - anyone have any tips for minimizing foot agony? I could really use a couple of those for next year. Yeowch! Running shoes. :) I wore running shoes this year instead of the regular shoes I usually wear. I made it to the third day before my feet really started screaming. Usually it's the morning of the first day. ;) |
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Michael Wedge (#58): Well, I don't know about you, Gabe, but when I was writing my E3 updates, I was focusing on the games and the systems, not on the booth babes. The only time I can think of that I mentioned babes at all would be in discussions of the "Promised Lot", and only because G.O.D. seemed to be stressing 'party' a lot harder than they were stressing 'games'. I appreciate you doing that. I was not really thinking about the game previews you read in magazines and online, but rather the glimpses the public sees on TV of the show floor. I imagine it leaves most of them just shaking their heads. |
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Caryn (#53): *sticks nose in the air* SNIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFF Aaah,... I smell.....BABE... I took a look at the pics VE posted of the babes, and personally I think 90% of them look like ass. Breasts are too big, butt too large etc. etc. I can't help but feel as if being in bed with such a chick would get you focused more on protecting yourself from injury than enjoying yourself. Nope, definitely not my type of woman. I tend to go more with the type of girls Charlie Wiederwangschlongpenisdick falls for. Let's face it, the guy has taste. Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behavior. - All your ass are belong to my wang, Jafd! Prepare to are penetration! |
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Caryn, Caryn, Caryn - women aren't for taking seriously! That's like using your blender engine on your Harley! If sex sells and there's a buyer, what's the problem? You're worried about being taken seriously when all you gotta do is flash your titties and men won't even care what you say - they'll just buy? Well they will, won't they? So why all this concern about how you feel? God, women are always feeling - because, har har, they are sexy and don't need brains! It's not like the booth boobies have to go home at night with their $1,000 check and lie to their families or themselves about what they're doing! It's entertainment, for men, who buy things. All this convoluted nonsense about human dignity and life after money is something we can all worry about later. And here's the best part: now that we've established what makes things sell, and now that we know that you're a woman, you know how to sell and you never need to worry about anything ever again. Why would you want to? Why would you want to? SO TITS OUT! And don't be nervous! Remember, the guys ogling you are pandered to, spoon fed, deliciously stupid little titty freaks who can be compelled only by the emphereal promise of sexual tittilation! You don't have to take them seriously either. Nobody else does. Cheers, babe! |
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#66 kizu wrote to Caryn some stupid shit about why she shouldn't take him seriously I'm sure she doesn't, man. But I'd like that minute of my life back you stole by writing the word tits and compelling me to read on. |
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Michael Wedge (#58): ... but when I was writing my E3 updates, I was focusing on the games and the systems, not on the booth babes. You know, even though I may have sounded stupid in my earlier post, so did I. The majority of my time was spent going from meeting to meeting, then looking at the games on the floor, maybe having a chance to talk to a developer or two. The booth babes were extra, and only during down periods. I guess since it was my first E3, I was anticipating the booth babes. Actually there were far less than I expected. If E3 didn't have this history (legacy? haha) of booth babes, I don't think it would've been a big deal if there weren't any. For a lot of people E3 is about seeing new games, meeting developers and such, and hopefully having a good time. I guess the booth babes are part of the good time. Greg |
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If you are going to be outraged about booth babes at a trade show, just think, wouldn't it be crazier if a game company got one of their employees to show her recently inflated boobies in a men's magazine to promote their game? Later they would have her appear on a game magazine wearing less than most booth babes? Maybe she could even appear in Rolling Stone shoving a joystick in her twat as a major game god - while a picture of Carmack would have the caption - some gamers enjoying games... Now that would be outrageous. But of course that could never happen - women in the industry that make a level or two for one of the worst games of last year would never act that way - not in this respectable industry. Chet |
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#65 "The Joker" wrote... I took a look at the pics VE posted of the babes, and personally I think 90% of them look like ass. Breasts are too big, butt too large etc. etc. I can't help but feel as if being in bed with such a chick would get you focused more on protecting yourself from injury than enjoying yourself. Good god, if their going to post babes pictures next year take a camera with red eye reduction, some of those pictures are freaking me out. There's just something about really bad models that cann't force a smile with glowing red eyes I just don't like. |
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Warren said: Well, remember that the booth babes at E3 are usually dressed up like the characters for whatever game they're promoting. They aren't standing there in bikini's or whatever this article would lead you to believe. Yes, the outfits are revealing, but that's how the characters in the games dress. Not that I agree with that in the first place ... but ... uh ... anyway ... This is an important point -- the E3 boothbabes, for the most part, are in keeping with the entire theme of the game they're promoting. The chicks in catsuits and platform heels, the Planet of the Babes babes, the Unreal Championship woman...they're all characters from the game. Now the issue of how women are portrayed in games is another issue for another forum topic. ;) The GOD booth babes -- except for the Duke girls -- were one of the few sets of booth babes that didn't fit a particular game, but instead were promoting a publisher's image and theme. which is a different matter. But even GOD injected some humor into that -- two of the Catholic schoolgirls this year were actually men, and they didn't hide it. |
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Chet (#69): Yes, YES!!! I like the attitude. But literally watch your behind, Romero is rumored to have gone queer. Speaking of twats and joysticks, if any female reader is in need of a joystick, you know where to reach me. I'm talking raw power, with extra force feedback. Fully loaded. Cum get some! Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behavior. - All your ass are belong to my wang, Jafd! Prepare to are penetration! |
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Sex is the lowest denominator? Are you kidding? It's all about marketing to those who purchase most of the games(13 to 27 year old males). To most 13 to 27 males, sex is the denominator. Hell, to most post-puberty, pre-prostate inflation men sex is the denominator. Accept it. This is how most people are. If you want to change it, I suggest you investigate changing our DNA. - Paul |
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By "people" I mean males. |
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Already went through a debate on this in another forum. Personaly I say the guy's just out to make himself look intelligent by trying to present a new angle, one which is hypocritical. Anyone remember what Jennifer Lopez has been wearing to award shows lately? The fashion industry dresses up minors like sluts for fashion shows and the fact of the matter is, most trade shows feature women prancing around and it's usually to get guy's attention away from the big name stuff. Also, GOD was not part of E3, that's why they were outside so using them as an example of how horrible E3 has gotten is like saying that all gamers are like the Columbine shooters. Here's some quotes from that other forum, just the ones I agree with of course. :) "He says E3 is "enjoying its third year [in Los Angeles]". WRONG! This is its third continuous year, but it's been in LA for 5. He says DC was "obliterated Microsoft's plans to spend $500 million to promote the Xboby MS." WRONG! Sadly enough, DC would have been gone with or without MS for reasons you already know. He talks about "to judge by the waves of young guys trudging glassy-eyed through Staples Center." WRONG! E3 wasn't in the Staples Center, it was at the LA Convention Center. In proximity, but different. I also didn't see these guys he describes. The people there looked like normal humans to me. He says "female attendance at E3 seemed closer to between 5 and 20 percent." i.e., he has no data, so he makes up a number. Well, my observations are just as (in)valid. To me there "seemed" to be more than 20%. Minority, but not by that great a disparity. He keeps on making it sound like there's nothing but strippers in front of the booths. I was actually talking to some other attendees about how few so-called booth babes there were at this year's E3. They certainly weren't the primary focus of the majority of the booths like he'd have you believe. " "I guess I missed the porn exhibit during my trek through E3. I think maybe he got drunk after the Godgames party and ended up at a strip club because I have no idea what he's talking about." The article was pure BS. he makes it out like we're the only industry that does this and it's holding us back. It's not, the gaming industry is growing and all entertainment industries do this. Hollywood and the music industry were under attack for selling violence and sex to kids, does this some how make them something other than mainstream? I'm not suprised to see such a lame article full of errors come from a liberal site like Salon. |
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http://www.planetcrap.com/stories/34/ It's been done. :P Oh and before Flamethrower or someone else jumps in to remind you, here's a preemptive "yes I'm the same guy who threatened to sue Bill McClendon.". Man, did that point ever turn out to be moot. |
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Here's a couple other good points from another forum "I have to wonder why over 140 million people isn't considered mainstream. Wow no impact on popular culture - lets see Final Fantasy Movie and Tomb Raider coming out this summer alone, institutions of learning devoted to their development, major companies such as Disney and Warner Brothers involved for years now, and not to mention that Hollywood itself has entered and fled the market time and time again." "I wonder what the author considers mainstream media credibility? Its on the news, its on CNN, its on CNNfn, it everywhere. Come Christmas you won't be able to get the press to shut up about this market - but I guess it really isn't ready for the mainstream." The author of the story is obviously a liberal or a prude, so women turn him off, that's the only reason he's attacking it. Something tells me if it was men running around in their undies, having pillows fights, he'd think it's the greatest thing ever. :) |
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OMG Toadie, was that a fag lame? I thought those were dead, or at least badly outdated. By the way, I think it's fantastic that you're able to completely ignore the fact that boobies at E3 make non-boobie women genuinely uncomfortable. Incivility like that takes real cultivation and I can appreciate a master of navel-gazing self-gratification - especially when he's able to phrase it as "market demand" while lambasting everyone who doesn't share his world view with a well-aimed "YUO=FAGET". Listen, are you interested in PR? Because I've got some guys from Libya on the phone who love your work. |
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Without booth babes you have to look at the games. One look at the lies on offer, from games that will neve be made, to games that will never run adequately, to games that simply will be shit, you might as well throw up some have haked skanky cunts because it can't hurt diverting attetntion. |
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#76 - don't fret, you're "positioned" beneath my "radar". |
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#78 "kizu" wrote some stuff... Hey Kizu. I love your work on OpenSource. Keep it up! When are you going to get around to posting those Isaac Newton letters? #76 "Seth" wrote some stuff... Hey commie! - [g.man] |
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#75 by TheToadWarrior Your quotes are funny and wrong - anyone who saw the pole dancing at the godgame's lot saw what wagner saw. There is no way there were 20% females in attendance (not working booths) no way. Not even close. 3 years - 5 years - staples center... enjoy correcting the spelling of my post. While Au does slant the article - whoever you are quoting about E3 didn't go to the same show I did. 20% female - that just makes me giggle - is that counting men who play women when playing everquest? Chet |
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I bet all you booth babe lovers are still crying over the death of PCXL. I'm surprised people haven't started wearing sweatpants to E3 for a more free and friction filled booth babe experience. The whole photo session to allow you to touch the booth babe is depressingly juvenile and does validate some of the article's critique of the attendees and those putting on the show. The fact that they are dressed up as fictional characters does nothing to detract from Au's argument. "Oh, wow, a purdy girl dressed as a soldier touched me, wait till I tell Ma! I better get a photo or she'll never believe me." And if it's all about getting a man's attention with sex, why are the ladies' tops still on? |
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kizu (#78): By the way, I think it's fantastic that you're able to completely ignore the fact that boobies at E3 make non-boobie women genuinely uncomfortable. Here's something to think about ... there WERE booth dudes as well. Not as many, but they were there. Why doesn't that upset anyone? Chet (#82): Your quotes are funny and wrong - anyone who saw the pole dancing at the godgame's lot saw what wagner saw. There is no way there were 20% females in attendance (not working booths) no way. Not even close. I agree it wasn't 20%, but this year was the highest concentration of females I've ever seen at E3. Anonymous (#83): I bet all you booth babe lovers are still crying over the death of PCXL. I'm surprised people haven't started wearing sweatpants to E3 for a more free and friction filled booth babe experience. The whole photo session to allow you to touch the booth babe is depressingly juvenile and does validate some of the article's critique of the attendees and those putting on the show. The fact that they are dressed up as fictional characters does nothing to detract from Au's argument. "Oh, wow, a purdy girl dressed as a soldier touched me, wait till I tell Ma! I better get a photo or she'll never believe me." And if it's all about getting a man's attention with sex, why are the ladies' tops still on? You know what? There are guys who are married and get laid all the time ... and they STILL enjoy looking at the booth babes at E3. How do you explain that? It's amazing how people like to categorize the booth babe fans as loners who never get any ... ALL MEN LIKE SEX. This is a fact of life. |
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Because using the ploy of having your picture taken with an attractive woman dressed as a fictional character as an excuse to get close to her just reeks of sad desperation. The people at E3 who just look at the women I put on the same level with the average PCXL reader. You're in LA, you can easily find women more attractive than the booth babes to look at just by stepping outside (well, except downtown). Just as PCXL readers could find better coverage of games in other mags and women covered with less in different mags. |
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#84 "Warren Marshall" wrote... ALL MEN LIKE SEX. This is a fact of life. I've heard that there are women who like sex as well. Mad, huh ? deadlock |
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Anonymous (#85): Because using the ploy of having your picture taken with an attractive woman dressed as a fictional character as an excuse to get close to her just reeks of sad desperation. The people at E3 who just look at the women I put on the same level with the average PCXL reader. You're in LA, you can easily find women more attractive than the booth babes to look at just by stepping outside (well, except downtown). Just as PCXL readers could find better coverage of games in other mags and women covered with less in different mags. Except for the fact that most people aren't there to find women ... they're there to look at games. The women are window dressing. deadlock (#86): I've heard that there are women who like sex as well. Mad, huh ? Did I say they didn't? |
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Warren, I hope it's late where you are. I didn't say that people weren't there to look at games. I said that the people who get their picture taken with the women deserve any mocking directed towards them and that those who just stare are no better than the average PCXL reader (whether or not that's an attack depends on what you think of PCXL). Yes, ALL MEN LIKE SEX, but then why not have the women go topless? Why not hold E3 outside of Vegas where gamers could legally get a reach-around while playing the latest FPS? ALL MEN LIKE SEX, right? The sexual tone set by E3 seems emotionally stunted, just like the tone of many of the games beign produced. |
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Anonymous (#88): Warren, I hope it's late where you are. I didn't say that people weren't there to look at games. I said that the people who get their picture taken with the women deserve any mocking directed towards them and that those who just stare are no better than the average PCXL reader (whether or not that's an attack depends on what you think of PCXL). Yes, ALL MEN LIKE SEX, but then why not have the women go topless? Why not hold E3 outside of Vegas where gamers could legally get a reach-around while playing the latest FPS? ALL MEN LIKE SEX, right? The sexual tone set by E3 seems emotionally stunted, just like the tone of many of the games beign produced. Of course it's late ... otherwise I couldn't possibly be disagreeing with you. So when you walk by a nice looking women in the mall, you don't look at her? You don't let your eyes linger for an extra second or two? Liar. If you go to a convention and are away from your woman for a few days and you run into a good looking girl that doesn't hold your attention? Liar. Sure, there are desperate types at E3. There are desperate types everywhere. E3 doesn't have an exclusive lock on that market. Looking at a beautiful girl is hardly an act of desperation. It's the normal reaction of a healthy male (or lesbian). If you get your picture taken with them ... sure, that's somewhat lame, but hey, people are there to have fun. Let them. But of course, it's late and I'm spouting foolish disagreements again ... Why don't they go topless? I think that would be illegal ... otherwise they would. |
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This is an important point -- the E3 boothbabes, for the most part, are in keeping with the entire theme of the game they're promoting. By that, I assume you mean "sensory overload"? |
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I'm not suprised to see such a lame article full of errors come from a liberal site like Salon. Heh, yeah. 'Cause as we all know, whenever you see a rampage about there being 'too much sex' out there, it's usually the liberals. <cough, cough> |
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Here's something to think about ... there WERE booth dudes as well. Not as many, but they were there. Why doesn't that upset anyone? Dude(S), plural? All I saw was the Duke Nukem guy tromping around the 'Lot'. Where were the other ones? Note - the ones in seven feet of polystyrene do not count, because, frankly, they could have been babes, aliens, or little children, for all we know. No, wait. I guess there were two, there was someone inexpicably dressed like an Egyptian at the Unreal Tournament for Xbox area. Hey, could someone explain that to me, actually? I guess I missed the rampant Egyptian influence the last dozen times I played the game. |
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Michael Wedge (#92): No, wait. I guess there were two, there was someone inexpicably dressed like an Egyptian at the Unreal Tournament for Xbox area. Hey, could someone explain that to me, actually? I guess I missed the rampant Egyptian influence the last dozen times I played the game. UC has a stylized look that leans toward Egyptian in some of the characters. :) |
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