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Whence do we come, where do we go, and why are we in this handbasket
October 9th 2000, 19:34 CEST by Darkseid-D

Yes folks, its user participation time once more! This time, its time to get inside peoples heads, to find out how they tick.



The voices in my head have successfully silenced the voices in Unkle J33ts head. By curious side effect, Mars has aligned with the rings of Saturn, causing Andy to go on a posting rampage, and that, frankly, Mondays suck. In keeping with my rather irrelevent and inane manner, I thought Id throw caution (and spell checking) to the wind.

It struck me, no not physically, that we have several unique personae present. On one hand you have your better known George Broussards and Brandon Reinharts, your Warren Marshalls and Katherine Anna Kang/Carmack. On another you have the semi legendary Sgt Hulka, the erudite Tom Cleghorn, the incendiary Flamethrower and the BOFH Darkseid.

An eclectic mix to be sure. So, in the interests of history, for the benefits of new posters and downright noseyness, I thought Id pose our readers and posters these questions.

How would you describe your job?

How did you get started ?

What drove you down that career path?

Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby

Ever get sick of doing what you do?

As always readers/posters/lurkers the floor is now yours. Feel free to participate, or just snipe at Andy for just posting this to get hits. Oh, wait, he didnt post this did he. Anyway, standard pop journalistic type devices aside, have at it folks, Im sure there are quite a few curious people out there.

Ds

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#50 by "G-Man"
2000-10-10 08:28:15
jonmars@shiftlock.org http://www.shiftlock.org
bagofmice:

Um you need to update your resume man.

 - [g.man]<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#51 by "G-Man"
2000-10-10 08:30:08
jonmars@shiftlock.org http://www.shiftlock.org
#49

Was this comment computer generated or did someone just forget to take their medication?

 - [g.man]<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#52 by "godZero"
2000-10-10 08:32:50
godzero@gmx.de
<b>#Main Post</b> "Darkseid-D" wrote...
<QUOTE>How would you describe your job? </QUOTE>

Primary: Chip design, embedded apps, some programming, microelectronics kinda stuff. The most beautiful job I can think of, although it can get pretty tough sometimes...

Secondary: lead guitarist/singer/songwriter in a rock band. It's not a "job", it's my passion.

<b>#Main Post</b> "Darkseid-D" wrote...
<QUOTE>How did you get started ?
What drove you down that career path?

 </QUOTE>

I was 10. I saw Deep Purple on a TV and decided I want to produce such beautiful sounds like that long-haired guy there (for ignorants, it was Ritchie Blackmoore). I haven't stopped bothering my mom for weeks till she bought me a guitar. Than I learned classical music for 5 years and moved to electric later on.
I always dreamed of building my equipment myself, so I decided to do something with elecronics. Now I can build my stuff myself...the rest is history.

<b>#Main Post</b> "Darkseid-D" wrote...
<QUOTE>Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby </QUOTE>

Yes.

<b>#Main Post</b> "Darkseid-D" wrote...
<QUOTE>Ever get sick of doing what you do? </QUOTE>

I get angry sometimes if some device won't work and I can't find out why right away and after doing all possible tests I find out it was something totally obvious...sick? Yes, I'm sick when I see that people like Backstreet boys, Blink 182, Bloodhound Gang etc. are succesful with their <b>::SHIT::</b> and I don't have a deal yet (and probably never will have, living in a smaller town and not having a good manager which could make up for it).
#53 by "bagofmice"
2000-10-10 08:37:34
rcastle@microsoft.com
heh, that stuff on my site was over a year old.  Embarrasing really. I fixed it.
#54 by "Naked Exposition"
2000-10-10 09:39:21
samuelbass3000@hotmail.com
Lurker time again...

How would you describe your job?

Former game developer, currently a freelance writer doing various imagine media things - Next Generation, that kinda stuff.

How did you get started ?

Seventeen year old with serious goth hangover gets job at fledgling Lucasarts spin off developer, learns to design levels. Ends up working on a series of either unknown (Neo Hunter), under appreciated (Armor Command) or just plain under acheiving (Force Commander) titles. Quits in mild digust, gets degree in Film and sets off to write for a living.

What drove you down that career path?

I've been playing games since I grabbed the joystick on my dad's late lamented Atari 400 back in 1981/82. Asteroids broke me in and Zork got me wanting to do the damn things myself.

Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby

A bit of both - I'd both write and play games even if noone was willing to pay me, but at the same time, when I have to review Army Men: World War for the PSX - at that point it's most definitely just a job.

Ever get sick of doing what you do?

Only when reviewing the aforementioned Army Men and it's equally icky ilk.
#55 by "AshRain"
2000-10-10 10:49:08
ash_rain@hotmail http://www.bkp-mods.com
Creeps out of <B>The Lurker Lair</B>.

<B>How would you describe your job?</B>
Well, my work ain't a hypermultiscoringorgasmicthrillride. But it's not to bad either. I do back-end webdesigning mostly. Meaning that I'm not one of those pancy ass html scriptkiddies who think they are good cause they can make 3 frames with a table and a flashing button in it.

It's badass ASP and writing dll files in VB to support a n-tier sctructure of website.
* Note: The former sentance contained difficult words because that makes me look badass. :P *

<B>How did you get started</B>
I know it had something to do with me, this company and school. And the fact that I don't have to program C at this job. I hate C! HATE IT!

<B>What drove you down that career path? </B>
I needed money to support my RTS collection.
Cause else I would still be unemployed and doing nothing apart from the occasional sniffing though the gamesstores discountbin. To find some cheap failed RTS games. :)

<B>Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby </B>
It's just a job. Learning all kind of crzay stuff like modeling, mapping, Java and the art of sitting in a chair looking active is my lifestyle. Playing games and being in a modteam is my hobby.

<B>Ever get sick of doing what you do? </B>
I don't do this stuff long enough to be sick of it. But as soon I don't like the work anymore I'll switch to something else.

Back to the beerfeast in <B>The Lurker Lair</B>.
#56 by "Johan"
2000-10-10 12:08:14
johan@innerloop.no
[36] Charlie Wiederhold
<QUOTE>
Only when George and Scott make me swallow.
</QUOTE>
:-) You realize of course you're feeding everyone's favorite troll MCIYA.

Anyway, I'm a 3d game engine programmer if anyone cares.

Got started by programming a lot and dropping out of school.

Yes I get sick of my job when the corporate BS takes over. I just want to make games y'know?

Oh, and I eat whales for breakfast. With mashed panda-bears on top.


Peace,

-Johan
#57 by "Prfbrain"
2000-10-10 14:07:17
brain@arn.net
<b>How would you describe your job?</b>
The seventh level of hell or as some people refer to it, tech support. I work for a local ISP and have the graveyard shift, so I usually don't have to deal with too many knobs, just the occasional drunk who wants to know why he's getting all these emails about pr0n and how come they cost money.

<b>How did you get started ?</b>
A "friend" of mine was working for them and suckered me into it.

<b>What drove you down that career path?</b>
A severe lack of anything even slightly interesting to do.

<b>Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby.</b>
Definately falls into the job category, although I do spend quite a deal of time reading through threads on crapspy.

<b>Ever get sick of doing what you do?</b>
Not really of what I do, more like I get sick of the people that call asking idiot questions and some less than spectacular co-workers. I sometimes wonder why there aren't more workplace bloodbaths at ISP's, then I look around and realize that most of these people don't have the will to physically get off their ass and actually do anything. Yes, including me :) Seriously though, its an ok job, decent pay, and I generally don't go home everyday hating my life.<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#58 by "Prodigy"
2000-10-10 14:14:59
prodigy@gamedata.com http://www.gamedata.com
<B>How would you describe your job? </b>

Editor for a gaming media. I don't like the term "journalist", what I do has nothing to do with true journalism in the 'reporter/columnist' sense of the word.  

<B>How did you get started ? </b>

I always played a lot, first on consoles (Game Boy, Genesis), then on PC (when Doom blew me away in 94 I acquired a computer and start playing at home). I read a lot of magazines, and always secretely wanted to work in one. I got the oppotrinity 2 years ago, and just went for it. When the magazine flopped, I started my own website.

<B>What drove you down that career path? </b>

Luck, I guess, and a strong will to be a part of the gaming "industry", whether it is at the source (game development) or at the end (medias). I'm not a frustrated game developer as I often heard about the press, I'm a part of this world and I'm happy about it.

<b>Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby </b>

Both a job and a lifestyle, buy choice (I love playing) and by obligation (this work is a 24/7).

<B>Ever get sick of doing what you do?</b>

Maybe a little bit tired, sometimes, the games have a tendency to repeat themselves, so I try to find something new every day. Maybe sometimes I completely lack freshness, and I have a tendency to be less suprised as time (and games) goes by. I would say that's the side effect of a job where you see 2 new games a day (that's not a firm number, just an aproximation) and where you can truly realise that, as in the movie business, it's an industry before it's an art...
#59 by "Karl Palutke"
2000-10-10 18:45:28
palutkek@asme.org
<b>Darkseid-D</b> (#Main Post):

I wasn't going to participate, but since I seem to be one of the few who AREN'T programmers, tech support monkeys, or writers, I decided that we need to be heard from :)

<QUOTE>How would you describe your job? </QUOTE>

Mechanical/Aerospace/Industrial engineer.  I do support for the repair and overhaul of USAF cargo plans at Robins AFB, Georgia.  I've done stress analysis, process audits, process improvement, . . . about anything that needs to be done and the AF is willing to pay for.

<QUOTE>How did you get started ? </QUOTE>

It's my first job out of college (I graduated with a BSME).  So far, it's been interesting enough to stick around.

<QUOTE>What drove you down that career path? </QUOTE>

I've always enjoyed taking things apart.  Eventually I gained the ability to put them back together.  Mechanical engineering was the logical choice.

<QUOTE>Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby </QUOTE>

Currently, it's just a job.  I'm sure that there's a job somewhere that would qualify as a lifestyle/hobby, but I haven't seen it yet.  Overall I'm pretty happy where I am so I wouldn't be likely to leave unless I found that 'perfect' job.

<QUOTE>Ever get sick of doing what you do? </QUOTE>

Yes.  It comes with the territory with government work.  There are days (sometimes weeks) where I do NOTHING except attempt to track down the one bureaucrat in the entire federal government who is willing and able to give me the information I need to do my job.  To be really effective in this business, you have to have a network of contacts who can get you stuff 'unofficially'.  If it weren't for stuff that got done unofficially, things would grind to a halt very quickly.<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#60 by "El Asso Wipo!"
2000-10-10 21:28:00
The_Nick_Burns@hotmail.com http://www.planetcrap.com
How would you describe your job?

I break my opponents over my KNEEEE!!!!

How did you get started ?

As a little buritto eatin bambino I would pound neighborhood boys into letting me see their sisters naked.  I grew up fighting and am able to open beer bottles with my ass.

What drove you down that career path?

I was born with the brain of a savant.  All I know is wrestling.  Well, actually, I know a lot of Buffy trivia.. Yeah, wrestling and Buffy trivia..  And I'm good at 50's song lyrics, so go figure, mix all three of those up and you've got a game loving fat piece of wrestling shit.

Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby

What I do is a job.  For fun, I like to go down to the local YMCA and watch the women shower through the hole in the wall.

Ever get sick of doing what you do?

Nope.  Yes!  Never.  <I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#61 by "Japakazol"
2000-10-10 21:57:51
arthuraldeguer@hotmail.com http://www.geocities.com/deathtoll_northhollywood
How would you describe your job?
I fix computers for idiots
(retail customers)

How did you get started ?
My brother sold me a 286 10 HYUNDAI pile of shit and it didnt quite have the five and a quarter mounted so I opened it and fixed it...


What drove you down that career path?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby

Well since most games that come out barely work and I am an avid PCGAMER i guess you could say that it is a hobby and a lifestyle.  you know things are bad when girls ask you out to a movie and when you are out all you can think about is playing COUNTER STRIKE with your buddies!
Ever get sick of doing what you do?
I dont get sick of what I do but I do get sick of STUPID CUSTOMERS!  I swear they should make it a requirement to have a license to own a computer!
          -Japakazol
#62 by "Lucky"
2000-10-10 22:10:58
lucky@planetduke.com
Hmm since every Tom, Dick and El Asso Wipo is doin' this I thought I'd stick it to the MAN with some light-hearted, uh, crap:

How would you describe your job?
By using words.

How did you get started ?
By beginning it.

What drove you down that career path?
A taxi.

Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby
Uh, yes

Ever get sick of doing what you do?
 . . . do I even do anything? :)

 Hmm anyway, let's get us KillCreek here and laugh when she lists "mapper" as her career. :)
#63 by "mcgrew"
2000-10-11 01:17:37
mcgrew@famvid.com http://theFragfest.com
My job? Bah, right now it's boring me, I don't have enough to do since the promotion. I'm a "Methods and Procedures Analyst" for the State of Illinois, meaning I write database programs, reset passwords, fix 'broken' computers, swap backup tapes, listen to users whine, and just about anything else they ask me to do.

I got started the same way as anybody else, I took a test and didn't flunk.

I have a completely worthless BA in Art and Design. I went to Florida looking for an art job with Disney and wound up in their merchandise department, meaning I met every human alive after 1980 who had the money to get to Florida. Yes, the famous, infamous, and, uh, even probably you. The British are indeed the most polite people on Earth (at least the rich ones) and the Japanese are the rudest (atleast the rich ones). The Columbians are the rich ones; the drug trade must be very profitable.

I saw my first computer at the age of 12 at the world's fair. Yes, I am old. I beta tested dirt (we never did get all the bugs out).

My job used to be like a hobby, but now it's just a job. My hobbes are starting to feel like jobs, maybe I should become an alchoholic instead, I hear that never gets boring.

As far as "who is this guy who keeps annoyingly posting at planet crap", I run the Springfield Fragfest. By myself. For free. Although m0rn (in last wek's topic) convinced me to start seeking advertisers (that, and my wife keeps bitching about the unproductive time I spend on the computer).

And of COURSE andy posted this for the ad revinue!



      [5] asspennies "Is there anyone who really cares what someone who calls himself 'asspennies' does for a living?"

I'm a lot more curious about "asspennies" than, say, Jeff Dawson (he's a welder). Gigilo? Male hooker? Congressman


      [47] G-Man "#46 "bagofmice" wrote... PC site feature request. ... Just use CrapSpy you feeb. :)
I would if I could get it to work =(


      [55] AshRain "I hate C! HATE IT!"

A kindred spirit! I hate C even more than Access (which I am unfortunately forced to use at gunpoint...)

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I wonder why none of the trolls has shown up yet? Did they close Australia or something?

-steve
#64 by "RahvinTaka"
2000-10-11 01:26:43
donaldp@mad.scientist.com
<b>#63</b> "mcgrew" wrote...
<QUOTE>I wonder why none of the trolls has shown up yet? Did they close Australia or something? </QUOTE>

hmmmm
<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#65 by "G-Man"
2000-10-11 05:54:44
jonmars@shiftlock.org http://www.shiftlock.org
<b>#63</b> "mcgrew" wrote...
<QUOTE>I beta tested dirt (we never did get all the bugs out).</QUOTE>
This is hilarious. I hope you stole it from someone else, because if you didn't I'd be forced to reevaluate my opinion of you.

I read your "Guide to art" years ago and as far as I'm concerned that is your defining contribution to the online world. Everything else is just a bonus (or penalty depending on your viewpoint).

 - [g.man]<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#66 by "Milamber"
2000-10-11 06:07:22
milamber@amoeba.com.au http://www.wagz.net
<quote>I wonder why none of the trolls has shown up yet? Did they close Australia or something? </quote>

Oi!
#67 by "Dan Miller"
2000-10-11 06:51:33
miller@lith.com
How would you describe your job?

Public Relations/Quality Assurance/Information Systems/ Janitor

How did you get started ?

I graduated from Western Washington University with a Comm major/journ minor/CS Internet minor and got an Internship at Monolith in PR. I still feel I'm getting started though, really.

What drove you down that career path?

I love games and I wanted to work in games. I couldn't program or draw, so for me this is a way in.

Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby

I love working with games and I play games, they are close together (much to my wife's dismay).

Ever get sick of doing what you do?

It depends on which day you ask :)

Dan Miller
Monolith Productions
#68 by "Ryslin"
2000-10-11 16:38:57
ryslinmoon@yahoo.com
in the words of the game pharoah..
"hi I'm new here wonder what this board has for a person like me"

now...for the masses

How would you describe your job?

running around yelling "NO" very loudly.....

How did you get started ?
when he said..
"i have a swimming pool"

What drove you down that career path?
horomones obviously!

Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby

ask your parents that..post the answer..and i will get back to ya!

Ever get sick of doing what you do?

thats why they will grow up and have kids of thier own!!!!


now on a further note..
i am not a programer..a web dude ..nor am i even a DUDE...
i am a at home mom..who has this wacky thing called a love of games!
i just hopped on the first person shooter bandwagon..but i only like it when i do it in groups of 5 or more...giggling as i type..

othere than that..

i am a smart ass!
#69 by "deadcoil"
2000-10-11 19:33:03
deadcoil2000@yahoo.com http://impure.org/flem
<QUOTE>How would you describe your job? </QUOTE>

A big plate of ass with a good salary.  

<QUOTE> How did you get started ? </QUOTE>

As with everything in my life, it all started with a hot chick.
When I first met the woman that I would later marry, she was working for McAfee VS,
and I was a waiter at a fine dining establishment.  Between bouts of various physical and mental pleasure with each other, she showed me this nifty thing called <B>The Internet</B> back in 1996.  I soon learned how to do HTML and such, which has led to more people being offended by my cartoons than ever before.

<QUOTE> What drove you down that career path? </QUOTE>
 I soon discovered that there was money to be had in the tech industry.  Having read "Windows 95 for Dummies", I was able to procure a job at Hewlett Packard's support, and then later went on to....  <I>DON'T throw anything at me, please...</I> MS Win98 support.
I really don't like fixing computers all THAT much.  I'd much rather be in bed w/ the wife, or playng games.  But I have to admit, I have a knack for it, and it's better than waiting tables.



<QUOTE> Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby </QUOTE>
It would be easy to say that it's <B>JUST A FUCKING JOB, DAMMIT!!!</B>, but that's not entirely an honest answer.  When I go to someone's house now, and see a PC, I want to know the specs.  If I'm drinking with some buddies, they sometimes ask me questions about PC probs (Which I answer, and then anally violate them with a porcupine for not understanding the BEER=NOT MY WORK equation).  I've met more than a few friends IRL over the net.

Whether you realize it or not, you damned denial-addicts, if you interact on the net, it does, to a degree, no matter how Nth, become part of your lifestyle.  Embrace your geekiness, I say.  But not in public, and wash your hands afterwards.

<QUOTE> Ever get sick of doing what you do?</QUOTE>

Fuck, I just realized, I forgot to say-
I support a rather huge LAN form my cube at IBM.  No real "End Users", although some of the folks who call me are as daft as those that I supported at MS.  
 
That in mind, answer your own damned question:
How many times a day can you hear "Mah Compewter don't werk" before you plant a steel chisel into someone's forehead?
#70 by "mcgrew"
2000-10-11 20:10:19
mcgrew@famvid.com http://theFragfest.com
[11] Tom Cleghorn "'Erudite'... hm, I think I like that :) "

Cool. Hey, I hear you had the same crapspy problem I'm having, how did you fix it?


      [13] bagofmice "Blue...  no.. Red...  AAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

That explains the swap file problems in the other thread!


      [16] Darkseid-[D!] "'Those who can, do it. Those who cannot, write about it?' "

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, are employed by district 186 :P


      [17] Andy "Which amuses me no end because I can do all three of them."

Jack of all trades, master of...


      [56] Johan "Oh, and I eat whales for breakfast. With mashed panda-bears on top."

I prefer baby seals... tender, juicy, delicious baby seals. Club 'em, skin 'em, cook 'em, eat 'em. Yummie!


      [59] Karl Palutke "Mechanical/Aerospace/Industrial engineer. I do support for the repair and overhaul of USAF cargo plans at Robins AFB, Georgia."

Did you guys ever figure out why parts kept falling off C5s in the early 70s?

      [64] RahvinTaka "hmmmm "

I was speaking of a few of your countrymen; mciya, ramtin, barcode... besides, you aussies deride us yanks often enough ;)

(I shouldn't have posted that, sorry...
#71 by "Tom Cleghorn"
2000-10-11 21:16:06
tc10@spam?youtalkintome?st-andrews.ac.uk http://www.fisty.com/~tom/
<quote>Hey, I hear you had the same crapspy problem I'm having, how did you fix it?</quote>
Which is precisely what? I've been absent (with or without leave - your call) for several weeks, so I've no idea what your CrapSpy problem is :)
The only problem I've had with CrapSpy was that it crashed out before doing anything else - and that one solved itself by magic. I shit you not :)
#72 by "Karl Palutke"
2000-10-11 21:20:21
palutkek@asme.org
<b>mcgrew</b> (#70):
<QUOTE>Did you guys ever figure out why parts kept falling off C5s in the early 70s?
</QUOTE>

Early 70s?  Before my time (I was born in 74), but my guess is a manufacturing or design problem.  They were new planes at that point.  The C5s manufactured in the early 70s have historically been less reliable than the ones built in the 80s (which aren't that reliable themselves).  The sad fact is that some of those same parts still fall off the planes. . .

*** These opinions are mine, not my employer's or the USAF's ***  <I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#73 by "Darkseid-[D!]"
2000-10-11 21:25:39
Darkseid-D@planetcrap.com http://www.pcinformer.co.uk
I went in, deleted the contents of the cache folder

then reloaded the threads I wanted, clicked 'mark all read'

:)


Ds<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#74 by "Nightcloud"
2000-10-11 22:05:20
mimirjohnd@yahoo.com http://idonthaveaurl.com
How would you describe your job?
Information Systems Auditor - Fancy smancy name for being responsible for maintaining and troubleshooting any problem with ppv events and the physical network at my job.  From application probelms with the billing system and controller software to problems with the routers and sonet.

How did you get started ?
Worked in a video game store when I was young and bounced around from tech support to help desk.  Was given a chance to work where I am now and I am loving it.

What drove you down that career path?
I wanted to get into game programming but life got in the way.  Having the money to pay bills comes first (for now).

Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby.
It is a job that I look forward to working at.  I am still learning (/cliche off).

Ever get sick of doing what you do?
Not yet.
#75 by "mcgrew"
2000-10-11 23:38:17
mcgrew@famvid.com http://theFragfest.com
[65] G-Man "I hope you stole it from someone else, because if you didn't I'd be forced to reevaluate my opinion of you."

Yeah, it's original. Every now and then one or two of my neurons actually fires.

"I read your 'Guide to art' years ago and as far as I'm concerned that is your defining contribution to the online world. Everything else is just a bonus (or penalty depending on your viewpoint)."

Yeah, I outdid myself with that. It got you to read the Stupid Strogg jokes, didn't it? Those were original, too. Too bad not as funny... I thank you for your kind words.


      [66] Milamber "Oi!"

I must apologize to all the non-trolls in Australia now. My apologies. Just because all kangaroos are in Australia doesn't mean that all Australians are kangaroos.

[71] Tom Cleghorn "The only problem I've had with CrapSpy was that it crashed out  before doing anything else - and that one solved itself by magic. I shit you not :) "

Yep, that's the prob and Craig's stumped. Durn, maybe mine will start working too

[72] Karl Palutke "The sad fact is that some of those same parts still fall off the planes. . . "

Everybody I knew wondered how something that big could fly. I always wondered how something that complicated could fly! I rode one back from Thailand, the pilot tried to break it by bouncing it a few times on landing (overnight per diem rates) and couldn't. The next stop, I couldn't tell when we touched the ground... and the navigation broke.
#76 by "dolomite"
2000-10-12 06:30:25
dolo{AT}planetquake[d0t]com http://www.teamevolve.com/
<b>G-Man</b> (#47):
<QUOTE><B><A href="spy-internal:Load/169#46">#46</A></B> "bagofmice" wrote...

<quote>PC site feature request.

Could the New post indicators based upon last visit be written when you actually visit the thread? Thataway the new indicators are tagged per thread, as opposed to globally, which makes more sense. </quote>
Just use CrapSpy you feeb. :)

- [g.man]</QUOTE>

ACK EGADS!

... THERE BE FEEBS!

/d ducks<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#77 by "mrbloo"
2000-10-12 20:12:20
mrbloo2000@hotmail.com http://NA
<b>#16</b> "Darkseid-[D!]" wrote...
<QUOTE>

<QUOTE>How would you describe your job? </QUOTE>

I look after two electronic money transfer systems for a bank.  At the moment I'm doing a back-end system to provide information over the internet, so it's a lot more interesting than the usual fire-fighting and testing that usually goes on the the place.  Most of the work is SQL based using VB, ASP and javascript.  It's fun enough, but very boring to explain.

<QUOTE>How did you get started ? </QUOTE>

After my computers degree, I was writing and publishing pen 'n' paper rpgs, but eventually I broke and got a job working for the Man.  I think my first monthly paycheck was greater than the profits for the previous year with the rpg stuff (and my initial wage wasnae huge.)  I enjoyed the rpgs immensely, but I think not having to get up in the mornings and put on a suit was its biggest advantage.

<QUOTE>What drove you down that career path? </QUOTE>

Money, and the classy chicks that chase guys with money :)

<QUOTE>Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby </QUOTE>

It's a job.  I enjoy coding, but databases are not a good hobby.

<QUOTE>Ever get sick of doing what you do? </QUOTE>

Yup.  But it pays, and I don't have overtime.

Now, back to and praying that I've closed all those damned quote tags.<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#78 by "mrbloo"
2000-10-12 20:12:48
mrbloo2000@hotmail.com http://NA
arse<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#79 by "Charlie Wiederhold"
2000-10-12 21:40:04
charliew@3drealms.com
<quote>Wieder: At least Sunstorm didn't throw rocks at you like A&M :/ (although I wasn't there at the time, I can't apologize enough for that display of neanderthal-like insanity).</quote>

Holy cow Crusder, I had all but forgotten about that horrid event. No need to apologize of course since my fellow longhorns have done just as much at one time or another I'm sure.

Did I write up that story in a .plan file while I was at Ritual? At first I was like "How on earth does he know about that?" ;)

The beating we took at the hands of OU recently hurts deeper and will last much longer than that rock to the head did. :(

Charlie Wiederhold
#80 by "Charlie Wiederhold"
2000-10-12 21:40:50
charliew@3drealms.com
Crus<b>A</b>der
#81 by "Ryan Greene"
2000-10-12 22:38:03
How would you describe your job?
Reanimated Motivational Specialist (Project Manager)

How did you get started ?
A lightning storm in the castle, after lots and lots of stitching (with very fine thread), and no one wants me around. I parlayed that into a lucrative career convincing people they didn't want to work face to face with me.

What drove you down that career path?
Villagers with torches.

Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby
I was made for this line of work.

Ever get sick of doing what you do?
Yes, but a brief run through the editorial department, asking for content tends to stop that. Also, the occasional trip to the arctic.
#82 by ""
2000-10-12 23:43:35
<B>How would you describe your job? </B>

I am a student of engineering.  

<B>How did you get started ? </B>

By thinking "I am good at math, why not go for engineering?"

<B>What drove you down that career path? </B>  

See above, and add a now dissapated interest in the field of Computer/ Electrical Engineering.  It is definitely NOT for the women.

<B>Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby? </B>  

I work too hard, and I don't especially like most of the subject material we cover so it's about as far from a hobby as possible.  But I like college life, so that keeps me sane.  I'm in it for the money at this point and the slight possiblity of a future job being better.  Well, that and the fact that I realized I don't like this stuff two years into a rigorous curriculum.  

<B>Ever get sick of doing what you do? </B>  

Every day.
#83 by "Clam Chowder"
2000-10-13 00:04:26
fdsa
How would you describe your job?

Organized chaos. I teach at a local high school and a local university.

How did you get started ?

The good ol' U of U.

What drove you down that career path?

I knew what I wanted to do a long time ago; consequently, I'm doing it for a living.

Is what you do just a job? or more, like a lifestyle or your hobby?

Lifestyle, yes. Hobby? You've _got_ to be kidding.

Ever get sick of doing what you do?

Yes I do get sick of it; however, there are other times when I believe I've got the best job in the world. =)
#84 by "Crusader"
2000-10-13 01:25:49
crusader@linuxgames.com http://www.linuxgames.com
#79

You told me about it when I was at Ritual testing SiN before release (while showing off a newspaper clipping texture  which said "UT beats A&M for 30th year in a row" or something to that effect), as I was attending A&M at the time.

I was also the guy at the post-Qcon BBQ who pointed out that your shirt was emblazoned with the Fantastic Four logo.
#85 by "G-Man"
2000-10-13 08:49:27
jonmars@shiftlock.org http://www.shiftlock.org
PlanetCrap really demostrates how small this online world of ours REALLY is.

 - [g.man]<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#86 by "Diseased"
2000-10-13 21:06:22
diseasedanimal@yahoo.com
Doh, post #82 was me.  

/me is dum
#87 by "mcgrew"
2000-10-14 01:52:54
mcgrew@famvid.com http://theFragfest.com
[77] mrbloo "I look after two electronic money transfer systems for a bank... using VB..."

OMG I'm closing my account and putting the money in the mattress!

"databases are not a good hobby." Amen to that!


      [78] mrbloo "arse"

Ok I deserved that, sorry. ;)
#88 by "mrbloo"
2000-10-14 04:46:17
mrbloo2000@hotmail.com http://NA
<b>#87</b> "mcgrew" wrote...
<QUOTE>

[77] mrbloo "I look after two electronic money transfer systems for a bank... using VB..."

OMG I'm closing my account and putting the money in the mattress!

"databases are not a good hobby." Amen to that!


[78] mrbloo "arse"

Ok I deserved that, sorry. ;)
</QUOTE>

yeah, be afraid - although most of the work in our bank is still done with mainframes - we just give them the data to process.  Our server goes down - ten minutes to fix it, or we go to the backup.  If the mainframe goes down, people start eating their young and stocking up on baked beans and shotguns.

For the record, the internet back-end I wrote used VB, which I hate using, but if you need something done quickly, it's not too bad - and I knew I could control its environment.  I've rewritten other apps in javascript rather than try to get them working on other computers with the crappy VB installer.  A 35k executable on top of three megs of dlls which interfere with other applications sucks.<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#89 by "mcgrew"
2000-10-14 15:36:15
mcgrew@famvid.com http://theFragfest.com
[88] mrbloo
Don't worry, I trust you guys... i think ;)
#90 by "Karl Palutke"
2000-10-16 21:25:35
palutkek@asme.org
<b>mcgrew</b> (#75):
<QUOTE>Everybody I knew wondered how something that big could fly. I always wondered how something that complicated could fly! I rode one back from Thailand, the pilot tried to break it by bouncing it a few times on landing (overnight per diem rates) and couldn't. The next stop, I couldn't tell when we touched the ground... and the navigation broke.
</QUOTE>

The big problem we're having now is with the planes breaking while overseas and stranding Guard or Reservist pilots who are only called up for a few days at a time.  At the end of their callup, the pilots take a commercial flight home, leaving the plane to be stored (usually at great expense) until it can be made flightworthy.  Very few places have hangars large enough to store a C5.<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#91 by "p_fresh"
2000-10-17 01:17:35
af200xl@hotmail.com
In order:
Boring + Stressful + Fun + Interesting = variable.
(Real answer: Multimedia Producer)
By Chance
(I started off doing other stuff and kinda ended up here)
Money
('nuff said)
It's a job
( I have a lifestyle which my job is a part of. I have hobbies which do not involve 0's and 1's, and even some activities that involve parts of my body other than (but sometimes including) my digital extremities)
Yes
(And this is usually a transient boredom which is alleviated when the next project comes along, for which sound and vision is required. When it gets exciting for a while. Then boring. Then exciting again as it all gets chucked together and you see some new sh1t for the first time.)
#92 by "mcgrew"
2000-10-17 01:19:09
mcgrew@famvid.com http://theFragfest.com
"Very few places have hangars large enough to store a C5. "

Heh, you can put a few piper cubs in one, that ought to save a fw bucks ;)
#93 by "mcgrew"
2000-10-20 18:39:08
mcgrew@famvid.com http://theFragfest.com
Gee, it's been a week with no new postings, and there are less than a hundred here.

That's a pity, because I know for a fact some of you have some very interesting stories. One fellow I know who lurks here (and occasionally posts), for instance, emmigrated from a very interesting part of Europe when he was very young to a very uninteresting part of North America. He has a nickname he doesn't use on line with a very interesting and humorous origin. This fellow can be hilarious. I wish he'd tell the rest of you his story, but it's his story and not my place to tell.

In the interest of maybe kickstarting this thing and getting a few more people to post, I'm going to give my personal history of computing and computer games.

As I mentioned, I'm an old fart. One or two of you are as young as my kids (and shouldn't be reading this smut ;)

The first interest I had in computers was in grade school, with a boring 16mm movie in class that had one part that made me sit up and pay attention- the "electronic brain" that, when it made a mistake, was erased. "How would you like the death penalty for getting an answer wrong in class?", the announcer droned.

Of course, he was referring to hitting the "reset" button (or pulling the plug). At the time, the world's biggest computer was no more than a humongous, giant pocket calculator (and your wristwatch is probably a more powerful computer than was available anywhere).

I was 12 years old when I saw my first computer "in the flesh", as it were. The year was 1964, and it was at the World's Fair in Texas. There were two dozen terminals connected to it, running the first computer game I ever played- "Name the Presidents". Hints were given as to what president the computer was "thinking" of, with multiple choice answers. I distinctly remember thinking that if they would replace my teacher with one of these things, school wouldn't be nearly as brain numbingly boring.

I also got to play with a light pen, a VERY low resolution one, to make "art" that was woven into a cloth bookmark with a computerized loom. At the time, this was the stuff of science fiction.

So, I played my first computer game before Warren, CliffyB, or maybe even anybody else at Epic was even born! (punks!)

The next computer "game" I ever played was in the Air Force. I was stationed at Dover, where the C5s were located and bodies were being shipped to from VietNam. It was winter, 1971 or 1972, nearly midnight. I was a vehicle operator for Aerospace Ground Equipment ("ground power") and I was scheduled to be off duty in half an hour. I got a call to deliver two air conditioners (each the size of an SUV) nearly to the other side of the base. Top speed on my tractor was about 15 mph, and I could see I was going to get home late.

"WTF do these morons want with air conditioners" is what I angrily wondered; there was snow in the ground! Even wearing my parka I was freezing my ass off in the unheated tractor, and the closer I got to where I was going the colder and more pissed I got.

When I got there, two guys were waiting outside in the snow. These guys HAD to be crazy. Of course, I asked them wtgdfh they wanted air conditioners for.

"Oh, man, this is the coolest thing you've ever seen in your life!" they said. They were like five year olds on Christmas morning and I was Santa Clause. They took me inside to see their new toy.

The entire building was full of what appeared to be bookshelves full of circuit boards, lined up like books. The air conditioners, they explained, were to keep the circuits cool.

On room had this big, sci-fi looking thing on hydraulic jacks, with a ramp and stairs leading to its door. Inside was an exact mockup of a C5 cockpit, with ground glass where the windshield should have been.

Yes, it was one of the world's first flight simulators, and they were right; it was the coolest thing I'd ever seen. They would never, ever have let me fly a real C5, but they let me "fly" the simulator.

The sun was coming up as I drove the tractor back.

Yes, I later played Pong, and no, I wasn't impressed; I had played the C5 simulator. Pac Man and Space Invaders were a lot better than Pong, I still like those games.

The first FPS I ever played was in Disney's arcade in that big A-frame hotel; Battlezone, a first person wire frame tank simulation. Way cool!

Of course, when Timex came out with its T-1000, I bought one. It and its 1 mz Z80 was more powerful than the World's Fair computer, and probably as powerful as the C5 simulator.

I wrote Artificial Insanity on that PC, as well as some games (Battle Tanks, Pac Man, and Space Invader clones). Because, that was the only way to play games on it; there weren't any games otherwise.

I got a Radio Shack computer, not being able to afford a Commodore. I hacked a graphics program for it in a resolution its designers never intended it to be used in, and actually sold a few copies.

I played with the Apple IIe in the public library, and wrote some stuff for it.

Around 1986 or 1987 I got a used IBM XT, which I continually upgraded until it was a 386 and the only original parts were the case and power supply. I still have all the original parts, I understand that one of these may be worth money now as an antique.

The next one I built was an AMD P120, with a brand new case and power supply. The latest is a piece of shit kludge Celeron 400 on a PII motherboard. Suckiest computer I ever used, let alone built. I'm stuck with it for a couple more years at least.

So, what's your computing history?
#94 by "RzE"
2000-11-03 04:37:27
rze@counter-strike.net http://csnation.counter-strike.net
olol
#95 by "Ryslin&Indigo"
2000-11-11 08:34:00
ryslinmoon@yahoo.com
mcgrew

hmm lets see
first computer attempt
ahh the ole apple..dont know what kind of apple didnt care at the time
i was the only girl in my class that
a: gave a crap
b: learned to at least change colors on it
c: hung around the guys typing goto 10 ....

next..
mission impossible on a commedor 64
would accually fidagle my friend to invite me over for the night to play

my parents bought me an atari
played that to death...
nintendo?!
played at the guys houses...
I remeber Top Gun!!!!!!

met my future husband to divorce and a Tandy with Falcon Gold on it
learned how to fly that on a keyboard without a manual
also learned teh joys of "paint" programs

i also had a friend ...call him Brain!
he demanded i risk the wrath of his insane mother to come see his amiga
OOOOOOOOH Populous!!!!!!!!!

ooooh Compuserve!!!!


at least a couple of years past that i moved to atlanta ..at the behest of Brain..and lo and behold..a puter...with lesiure suit larry..and Rex and the gender bender..[think thats what its called]
and i also found out that Brain would never ever learn hardware...as i who new only that this was a box full of wires...installed his harddrive for him ..since he was about to break the whole box...
then we found SCORCH!!!!!!

ooooooooh ...blow that nuke!!!

graphics sucked...game play was wonderful!

having moved back to florida for awile...then going thru job corps...computers where not around much..but i did learn electric wireing..and plumbing!
when i got home from that aventure .i found consoles and arcades..and played one of the meanist chunlis you'll meet
and no i didnt use her super kick..i liked catching people in the air and throwing them to the ground..much more effective..and they could attack you less

ahh the super nintendo..zelda...mortal kombat...breath of fire....

simcity....
did i say simcity!
then lo and behold ...i find Brain..and what does he have..
a NEW pentium 90 math problem in tact..and Simcity2000

i went to work..went to brains house ..played simcity...went to work!

finally ..i eased off a bit..and brain got prodigy for free...[he worked for compusa] and lo an behold CHAT!!
and WAVS
oh the wonders ooh the joy...
famous last words..
computer crashes..he gets a c: with no error report..but he does get from the speakers "wheres the kaboom..theres suposed to be an earth shattering kaboom"
he didnt breathe for 30mins
not to mention the halliluia chorus when he recieved ims
and windows starts...he got "you are an idiot" sung to him for days...that also caused him to stop breathing....he turned purple with mirth..i thought he might die!

oh the joy..of watching him approch his computer with a mixture of dread and joy!
ah ..then the wonderful windows 95...beta..that he "got" ahold of..
and teh multiple installs of 95..then 3.11 then 95 then 3.11 then the cascade crash...and i learned to loathe computers!
but i was eternally hooked!
after that ..tis just the same ole same ole
i gain profficency and i loose time{grin}


next!
#96 by "Ryslin&Indigo"
2000-11-11 08:36:33
ryslinmoon@yahoo.com
mgrew...
personall note
mate wants to know if you new a bbs handle named Indigo88
#97 by "Ryslin&Indigo"
2000-11-11 08:58:17
ryslinmoon@yahoo.com
indigo

you might be an overclocker if

...you put fuel additives in your push mover...heavy amounts

...you have ever dented the floorboard to see if the gas petal goes down further

...you have ever harmonicly balanced a room fan,or put a double inverting power supply in front of it so it doesnt vary with line voltage

...if you drink two diffrent forms of coffee...normal everyday..and the one that gets you awake

...you had ever wondered if you could just simply wire jumper an extra processer on..like they did ram in the late eightys

...you push the lid down on the pan to cook the noodles faster

...if you've ever gone for the t1 line assuming that dsl and cable arent fast enough

...if you despise wait states

...if you remeber 45nanosecond ram

...if you have ever bought a 1000watt linear amp for your moblie cd radio

...if you ever had a 4800 baud modem in your house

...if you carry type 14 in your pocket everywhere you go

...if your idea of a good heat sink ways more than the motherboard

...if you are unhappy that the enviroment laws passed and you now cannot direct vent the freon over the heatsink

...if you burned out more than 5 processors before the web came into existance

...if have ever tried to find an apartment with vents in the floor so you could set your computer on it

...if you have to shut down your computer to talk on the phone[syncro 1400 motor fan]

...if you have ever looked up a voltage amperage table..or called a manufacturer for burn out specs

...if you never owened a computer that ran at multiples of 33.50.or 100

...if you've looked at a thunderbird heatsink and thought what a piece of blahguh...

...if you destain paper towels because your powersupply exaust drys your hands better
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