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Flame off, baby
October 8th 2000, 16:13 CEST by andy Good news for unpopular web hacks everywhere! Those lovely people at 3DR and OMM can now sanitize their e-mails with a new feature in the popular Eudora mail client. The "emotion monitor" tool, Moodwatch, scans your incoming and outgoing e-mails and rates them according to flame intensity. For outgoing mail, it warns you of any possible offense you might cause. For incoming mail, it lets you know how severe a roasting you're about to get. If this was a government/Microsoft (is there any difference?) tool it would be the sort of thing that had free speech nuts reaching for their copies of 1984 and ranting about how we're all living in a police state, but don't worry: Moodwatch doesn't censor you or 'protect' you from anything. It just gives you advice. You're free to ignore it, and if you don't find it useful, you can just turn it off. Judging by the Moodwatch web site, it does seem a little over-sensitive. The question "Are you nuts!?" in an outgoing mail gets the maximum rating of three hot chillies, along with a warning that it's "the sort of thing that might get your keyboard washed out with soap". If that's what it considers offensive then some of the mail I get should make it shut the whole program down and turn the computer off. Eudora is available in three flavours: free, not-so-free, and not free at all. Grab it from here. This is not an advert. |
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Hmm I wonder how it works? Would it class "fucking awesome job!" and "fucking poor" as the same? Ah well. |
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<b>#Main Post</b> "andy" wrote... <QUOTE>Moodwatch doesn't censor you or 'protect' you from anything. It just gives you advice. </QUOTE> It probably wouldn't let any of my emails to my Senators and Congressman ever leave my machine!<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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If you just end up reading the email anyway then uuh there's no point to it :) |
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It has no real purpose, it's just a fun little gimmik. I've gotten 1 flame before, and it had no chillies. I have lots of non-flame e-mail with 3 chillies. It might be useful if you're 5, or a religious nut. |
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At first I thought there is some serious science behind it. Detecting the *mood* of a written text is, as far as I can tell from my little experience, the hardest thing in text analysis (which has way more applications than some email program :) ). Anyway, white paper of this moodwatch thing shows that it merely is a "systematic study of flaming behavior, drawn from examining and coding some 1,200 messages from newsgroup alt.flame". Oh, ok. Whatever. So it basically detects few predefined word combos (such as "fuck you" or "this is bullshit") which appeared most often in the alt.flame newsgroup. Just a hack, if you ask me, does not have much to do with *mood* watching. They should have called it "foul language detector", and use it for child-protection software...<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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It MIGHT be cool if you live in your head and refuse any hurtful comments to get to you! You can delude yourslef into thinking you're l33t, by not reading the email you get that calls you a moron! WOW!! The future is HERE! |
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Who actually uses Eudora anyway? I can't think of any friends at all that use Eudora. Everyone that I know has submitted to Microsoft's will and uses OE, including myself. So what's the big deal?<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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In post #12 warmonger said: Who actually uses Eudora anyway? I do :)<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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<b>Lucky</b> (#11): <QUOTE>It MIGHT be cool if you live in your head and refuse any hurtful comments to get to you! </QUOTE> I must get this NOW! <I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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BWHAHAHAAHAH Good one Potsy - oops I mean Andy. You and Ralph Mouth are the best - you burned me! I have already invented the immature debator filter. F~"andy@planetcrap.com":null WHWHAHAHAHA. Is this you pandering to your audience now that you realized the only people who agree with you are minors? Chet |
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It seems to be just a rude word detector. I've experimented a bit with it. I can write an aggressive email, the type I wouldn't mind being checked for, with no response. But a random set of nasty words brings up the chillies. It's a harmless gimmick, no rights infringed in any way, but it still needs alot of work before it's actually useful/dangerous. |
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Running out of good topics, Andy? |
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<b>godZero</b> (#17): <QUOTE>Running out of good topics, Andy? </QUOTE> Bitch bitch bitch ... I swear, it's like a preschool sometimes ... -- Warren Marshall - Professional Nuisance<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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Heh, yeah. Especially that "Grab it from here. This is not an advert." Preschool? You needed that? :-) |
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Apache, what's going on with VE? Something went wrong? |
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As far as <b>I</b> am concerned, this product is a dangerous turn of events. ;-) |
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<b>#21</b> "Flamethrower" wrote... <QUOTE> As far as <B>I</B> am concerned, this product is a dangerous turn of events. ;-) </QUOTE> LOL<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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godZero are you an imbecile? Don't want to flame or anything but man VE has been down for the past 4 or 5 days and you now ask what's wrong? good god man, actually read what's being written instead of opening your misinformed mouth and everyone will be happier for it... damn I'm tired. |
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<quote> [15] Chet 10/08/2000 22:27 tnt2b-190.cleveland.corecomm.net BWHAHAHAAHAH Good one Potsy - oops I mean Andy. You and Ralph Mouth are the best - you burned me! I have already invented the immature debator filter. F~"andy@planetcrap.com":null WHWHAHAHAHA. Is this you pandering to your audience now that you realized the only people who agree with you are minors? Chet [18] Warren Marshall 10/09/2000 08:02 rdu162-228-238.nc.rr.com godZero (#17): Running out of good topics, Andy? Bitch bitch bitch ... I swear, it's like a preschool sometimes ... -- Warren Marshall - Professional Nuisance </quote> I wonder, my guess would be that chet's gets no chillies, while warren's sets off sirens. If anybody makes any moneey off this thing, it's back to coding for me... -steve |
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This is just a stupid dirty words filter, the same as any other. According to Salon, if you the name "Dick Cheney" twice you will get a <i>potentially offensive email</i> warning. Stupid. It's like the UBB code that asterisks-out naughtly words, regardless of context, so on the counter-strike BBS you have all this talk of ****ing pistols. It took me far too long to figure out that the thread was about cocking pistols, not fucking them. Which with all the gun nuts that play that game is not too much of a reach.... |
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It's not even a filter because it doesn't filter anything, it just says, "this message has a bad word or 2 in it." |
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/me jumps out of mental institution Those MTFP lurkers, TAKE THIS: /me kicks the crap out of all lurkers, women and children included. /me jumps back into mental institution Joker. |
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/me locks the door and breaks the key...<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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<b>#28</b> "[KAG]formerly known as Seth" wrote... <QUOTE>/me locks the door and breaks the key...</QUOTE> Aaah, so you think a door will stop me? MWUHAHA....MWAAHAHAHAA...MWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAaaaaaaaaaaaa.. *cough* *cough* GET ME MY GODDAMN PILLS!!!!!!! As a side note, I would really like to add that Dues Ex rocks total ass. When you're out to buy Sanity, check Dues Ex out as well. This game kicks way too much ass to not play it. Do you hear me Derek??!?! BUY SANITY! Joker.<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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phallen, you're such a clever guy. I admire your great intelligence, my idol. If you could read, you might have noticed that Apache said VE "will be up and running in two or three days" more than one week ago. That's why I'm asking. Oh, you work for Gamespy...why did I bother writing this at all... |
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godZero! You are quite the whitty one... LETS MAKE FUN OF GAMESPY THEYR"RE DUMBHEADS!!! Hey man, jump off the bandwago... it's already full. |
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<b>#31</b> by phallen: <QUOTE>LETS MAKE FUN OF GAMESPY THEYR"RE DUMBHEADS!!!</QUOTE> I agree ;)<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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This is why I still use Eudora 4. I can send/sort/receive e-mail from multiple addresses, and it's obscure enough that I don't really have to worry about some putz porting Melissa to it. I don't need a bad word filter-- well, perhaps I do, but I don't want one. Likewise, I'm not about to "upgrade" to a piece of software that may or may not have active spyware included. The whole free/not-so-free/not-free thing disturbs me, for some reason. |
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/me is a dumbhead ;) -shai |
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<b>#31</b> "phallen" wrote... <QUOTE>Hey man, jump off the bandwago... it's already full. </QUOTE> /me looks around, hay there's a lot of room up here still! :) -- None-1a. O forget it.<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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[13] The Joker "I don't care about the game arcades, feck the game arcades, hell, if I ever go to Malaysia it'll be because of the women." I thought it would be for the canings? And your use of the word "feck" brought back memories of yello, has anyone heard from Neil lately? |
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<b>shaithis</b> (#34): <QUOTE>/me is a dumbhead ;) </QUOTE> You don't have to tell us ... we've been watching you for some time now. :P -- Warren Marshall - Professional Nuisance<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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Great!!!! An automatic email reader. <b>FUCK ME!!!</b> Now the FBI don't have to do their jobs... <b>lunatic located!!! It's dolomite!</b> /d <I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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<b>PiRaMidA</b> (#10): <QUOTE>They should have called it "foul language detector", and use it for child-protection software...</QUOTE> ... or sold it to the FBI for some cash! Maybe they got the idea from <i>them</i>? /d<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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<b>#31</b> "phallen" wrote... <QUOTE> godZero! You are quite the whitty one... LETS MAKE FUN OF GAMESPY THEYR"RE DUMBHEADS!!! Hey man, jump off the bandwago... it's already full. </QUOTE> I was just trying not to insult you too hard. My choice of words is different than yours (a bit more civilized). If I said: "You're an imbecile and I'm gonna kick your stupid ass, blah, blah...", would that be better? If yes, I'll do it that way next time. But than I wouldn't be any better than you. |
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Off-topic, but <a href="http://geeknews.efront.com/">GeekNews</a> took down the blurb about Voodoo Extreme joining up with EFront. Announcement too soon, maybe? Who knows. -- Dethstryk |
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email virus... get webmail (giggle) |
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and anouther thing sheesh ..a moodthingamagiggy what in the world are programers thinking these days.. for that matter what in the world am i thinking these days.. rys |
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man: *walks in after a hard day at work* - 'Woman, where's mah fewd!!' woman: *sitting behind the pc* - 'uh..food?..oh!..my go....I mean..err..well you see, err..' man: *biting on his teeth and getting angry* - 'Don't tell me there isn't any food, don't even...' woman: *getting up from chair and backing away* - 'well..honey...i was playing this game here and...and...th..the..then..planetcrap...err..Andy..a.an...and Warren...' man: *making fists and raising his voice* - 'Andy?! Woman, have you been seeing that old guy next door???! And who the heck is Warren??? What is happening here when I'm not home??! HUH!!??' woman: 'oh shit...' That, my friends, proves that being a housewife and playing games don't go together. It only works for people like Broussard. Joker.<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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<b>#41</b> "Dethstryk" wrote... <QUOTE>Off-topic, but <A href="http://geeknews.efront.com/">GeekNews</A> took down the blurb about Voodoo Extreme joining up with EFront. Announcement too soon, maybe? Who knows. </QUOTE> Joining with EFront? We'll from what I have heard, that's probably not a good idea... Joker.<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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That, my friends, proves that being a housewife and playing games don't go together. It only works for people like Broussard. happens to work quite well for me btw i DONT COOK!!! on the next note...my significant geek says that at least he knows there is something wrong with his pc BEFORE he sits down to do something,... there is grace in that Rys |
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[46] Ryslin "on the next note...my significant geek says that at least he knows there is something wrong with his pc BEFORE he sits down to do something,... " The smoke coming from the box is his first clue (shaddap, you prevoits, not that kinda box!) |
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(checks box} no not smoking ..not even hot...infact the damn case cover is off {in true geek type} any why oh why do men seem to have an issue with women learning ..and even being comptent with computers? |
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<b>#48</b> "Ryslin" wrote... <QUOTE>why oh why do men seem to have an issue with women learning ..and even being comptent with computers?</QUOTE> Not men - boys. People are generally cowards and feel threatened when someone who traditionally hasn't knows starts knowing. This is especially prevelent at schools. Best way to improve a males grades is to place them in company of females because they start to feel threatedned ;) <I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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<b>#49</b> My Personal Lord and Savior "RahvinTaka" wrote: <QUOTE>Best way to improve a males grades is to place them in company of females because they start to feel threatedned ;) </QUOTE> I thought that was an easy way of encouraging pencil dropping :)<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I> |
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<b>#48</b> "Ryslin" wrote... <QUOTE>any why oh why do men seem to have an issue with women learning ..and even being comptent with computers? </QUOTE> lol, I wish more women were competent with computers, or even better, knew how to strip the things down, troubleshoot, and fix them. I've known plenty of people, both women and men, that have spent as much time with computers as I have, but don't know anything about the insides of their computer or the software that's installed on it. I guess the only reason I learned a lot of what I did was because I got sick of waiting for someone else to fix the things when I broke them ;) -PainKilleR-[CE] |
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amen Painkiller btw .. i am middling...i know some software..[and the software guy in the house keeps bitchin that i need to learn this..or i should learn that and makes obscure references in c then switches to bitching about the superiority of linux as i get a tad confuseld and go beat my windows around some more] and some hardware..[got lucky about the hardware..i accually am a building maintence degreed individual and i have a hankering to tear things apart..seems to be genetic..ya ought to see the son of me and my hardware guy..but my hardware love has been ripping things apart since he was born[there is a tale of a screwdriver and outlet covers at the tender age of 11mths]and has been working in computers since modems could fit INSIDE] thus i am in the middle and learning more each day... {smacks the side of her computer uttering the mantra..bad computer bad..work} |
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