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and actually, this is wrong, since what he said outside the court affected what the judge said inside the court, as directly admitted by the judge. That's the whole point. You can't punish Eller for exercising his first amendment rights. It has nothing to do with the case in court. That's a violation of his civil rights. |
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i'm not sure that's true when it pertains directly to the case in question, for one thing. It's hardly the first time public behavior has affected a court case either. Being stupid may be a civil right, but it's still stupid, and he would have been better off to STFU while his case was being tried. What he said spoke directly to how he felt, which does get considered by a judge in deciding punishment. If he was talking about the color of the sky or American Idol, you'd have a point. "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" - "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
"LP, your big balls are a religion." - Jibble |
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I know that Harrison wanted to get released, but I'm still surprised. Is he really going to find a better situation outside of Indy? |
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I hear the Eagles are interested... "some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum |
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Giants might also be looking for someone. |
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It's all about the money today. See Anquan Boldin. 52 Weeks and Something's On Movie Blog
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McBain (#59): I know that Harrison wanted to get released, but I'm still surprised. Is he really going to find a better situation outside of Indy? He's not...but that's not what his agent is telling him. |
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Heh, Bucs cut Brooks and Dunn. Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
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Country sucks. |
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Yawn! It depends on what is said, c.f. yelling fire, threatening the president, truth in advertising laws, etc. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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Cheesy, did you click on the link? |
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Yes, but I found the quote meh out of context (which it is, until you read it). <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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"If I end up in court, do I need to watch what I say?" asked WCCO-TV reporter Jason DeRusha. "The answer's yes. If you want mercy on your sentence, the answer is yes," said Daly. Which has always always always been true. It may not be the ideal. It is however, reality. I cannot respect stupid. "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" - "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
"LP, your big balls are a religion." - Jibble |
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I'm with McBain, if I go to court and call the judge a smelly oaf I should get the exact same justice as someone who tells him he smells like a peach. |
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Watching what you say is par for the course over here. I take it US law has no equivalent of "contempt of court". "If you watch the movie "Jaws" backwards, it's a movie about a shark that keeps throwing up people until they have to open a beach." - /b/tard
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Well, that's a different charge, isn't it? |
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Just so I'm understanding... He was mouthy to the judge and got a longer sentence because of it. Stunner. I'm not saying it's necessarily right, but Judges are people too. "some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum |
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He wasn't mouthy in court, but giving an interview on the street. Ergo, it's not contempt of court. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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He was mouthy in an interview and word got back to the Judge. Hmm...still not right, but still pretty dumb. "some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum |
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Just to keep it in context, the sentence he received was well within the sentencing guidelines for the crime he was convicted of. It only happened to be harsher than what the prosecution was requesting. Whether that should've happened in the first place is the debate. |
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TreeFrog (#72): Watching what you say is par for the course over here. I take it US law has no equivalent of "contempt of court". And you would be wrong. "THE FUCKING KITTY LITTER FUCKING BOMB GHRHGURHGUHGRUGHRUGHURHGURHGHHGHUAHUHU KITTY" -- greg
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Shadarr (#64): Heh, Bucs cut Brooks and Dunn. I know it's just business, but I'm so tired of hearing that. Literally the best player your team has ever had and you can't work out something that both honors him and helps your business out? *shrugs* It's just crappy, business or not. "some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum |
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Has had, or does have? Therein lies the rub. |
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Like Bob Sugar said, 'It's not show friends, it's show BUSINESS.' 52 Weeks and Something's On Movie Blog
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I know all of that. And still, it doesn't have to be. There are ways and if they wanted to do it differently, they could have. They just didn't want to. "some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum |
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If they don't think he can play anymore, why should they give him a spot on their roster, just because of what he did in the past? |
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I predict this will be like John Lynch and Warren Sapp. Brooks will land somewhere like Baltimore or New England and have 5 more productive years. What's up with Cato June? He's not even 30 yet, does he just suck? Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
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And as an example of how things should be done, Bryant Young played his entire career and retired with the Niners. Somehow, the team was able to have a youth movement without kicking him to the curb. Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
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You make that sound like it was a good thing. From the 2003-2007 seasons (Young's last 5), they were a stellar 25-55. They flat out sucked. |
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It happens because the NFL has the NFLPA over a barrel, at least compared to other sports. If you've played Madden in franchise mode for a few seasons you can see why it happens. First, no (or very rare) guaranteed contracts. That means there is very little repercussion for cutting someone with a big salary , basically you just have the cap hit from whatever bonuses you haven't paid yet. In the NBA you're mostly stuck with the stupid contract you made until you can work out a trade. Second, most contracts are backloaded (while the bonuses are spread out evenly or frontloaded), so the most expensive years are at the end. It's pretty rare to actually pay off those years though, usually a new contract is negotiated with a year or two left, or the player is cut/traded before then. So for a legendary player, it's very likely that the last years of his contract are huge, and his ability is diminished from his peak. Third, young players who become good make coaches and GMs look smart. For one aging great's contract you can get 2 to 12 young hungry guys who may become greats themselves. It doesn't often work out that way, but all of them think they're better at talent evaluation then everyone else so it's a tantalizing possibility. Fourth, with the hard salary cap it's hard to keep on a vanity contract unless the player renegotiates to the minimum, which most players won't go for. The Larry Bird Exception in the NBA was designed specifically for this, the team that he's on can offer him more money then other teams without affecting the salary cap. That way he can stay on the team even if they're in a cap crunch. The NFL doesn't have that, and won't have that unless something drastic happens with the Union. |
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That was a good analysis eggbert. |
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Yeah, he must have copied it from somewhere else. |
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eggbert (#87): Second, most contracts are backloaded (while the bonuses are spread out evenly or frontloaded), so the most expensive years are at the end. That's mostly a thing of the past. The Niners, Jaguars and now Redskins got into major trouble by giving out those kind of deals to try to squeeze players under the salary cap. It effectively steals money from future years and allows you to spend more now. But down the road you end up with millions in dead money and have to blow up the team. Nowadays teams (other than the Redskins) are trying to emulate the Patriots and build through the draft with a few targeted free agent acquisitions, which doesn't give you as much immediate impact but is more sustainable long term. Greg (#86): You make that sound like it was a good thing. From the 2003-2007 seasons (Young's last 5), they were a stellar 25-55. They flat out sucked. Yeah, if not for keeping a future hall of famer on the team the Niners would've been playoff contenders. He was an anchor. By getting rid of Brooks the Bucs have virtually guaranteed themselves a Super Bowl next year. Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
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Shadarr (#90): Yeah, if not for keeping a future hall of famer on the team the Niners would've been playoff contenders. He was an anchor. By getting rid of Brooks the Bucs have virtually guaranteed themselves a Super Bowl next year. Yeah, for sure. Especially since they are 66m under the salary cap AND they aren't spending much of it. If they get anyone Tier 1, I'll be incredibly impressed. They like Tier 2 with lots of potential upside...and a troubled past. It's the way they roll. "some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum |
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$66 million under?! Jesus Christ. Did the Glazers decide they're tired of trying to win? I was just reading that the new head coach was a DB coach last year and has never been a head coach at any level. Maybe they figure there's no point spending money until the coach has a chance to grow into the job. Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
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The rumor around here is that ManU is there big thing now and they want to spend as little as possible on the Bucs now. I don't know if that's true or not, but I heard on the radio home that they traded for Kellen Winslow. He's definitely not tier 2...right? "some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum |
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Michael Lewis on stat analysis in the NBA |
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"Players love the spectacle of a ball being swatted into the fifth row, and it becomes a matter of personal indifference that the other team still gets the ball back. Dikembe Mutombo, Houston’s 42-year-old backup center, famous for blocking shots, “has always been the best in the league in the recovery of the ball after his block,” says Morey, as he begins to make a case for Mutombo’s unselfishness before he stops and laughs. “But even to Dikembe there’s a selfish component. He made his name by doing the finger wag.” The finger wag: Mutombo swats the ball, grabs it, holds it against his hip and wags his finger at the opponent. Not in my house! “And if he doesn’t catch the ball,” Morey says, “he can’t do the finger wag. And he loves the finger wag.”" Heh, that's awesome. |
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That was a damn fine article. I may have to get over my reflexive hatred of Battier for playing for Duke and Memphis. Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
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I'm glad you liked it, I thought it was riveting. |
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Matt Perkins (#93): The rumor around here is that ManU is there big thing now and they want to spend as little as possible on the Bucs now. I don't know if that's true or not, but I heard on the radio home that they traded for Kellen Winslow. He's definitely not tier 2...right? If I was a Glazer I'd be concentrating on Man U. Man U are winners. The Bucs are... not. |
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McBain (#94): Yeah, I read that a little while back, it's good. There was a similar article from the Houston Press a year or two ago when Morey was hired, that focused on his approach to talent evaluation. Lewis' book (his other book), The Blind Side is a nice read too. |
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I enjoyed "The Blind Side" quite a bit. |
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m0nty (#98): Matt Perkins (#93): The rumor around here is that ManU is there big thing now and they want to spend as little as possible on the Bucs now. I don't know if that's true or not, but I heard on the radio home that they traded for Kellen Winslow. He's definitely not tier 2...right? If I was a Glazer I'd be concentrating on Man U. Man U are winners. The Bucs are... not. It's more that the Bucs are a tiny operation compared to Man U. They can a superbowl and not make as much in a year as they do with Man U. "some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum |
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+win "some of those words want to be other words." - LP
"the concept that a happy worker is a productive worker is hardly an entry from Matt's Big Book Of Things The Fairies Said." - Dum |
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ManU + re? Sabrina Poirier, a student at Pensacola who withdrew in 1997, was disciplined for what is known on the campus as "optical intercourse" � staring too intently into the eyes of a member of the opposite sex. This is also referred to as "making eye babies."
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Re+ard. 52 Weeks and Something's On Movie Blog
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Matt Perkins (#102): +win If only it were as easy as that. |
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Dear 49ers, Please do me a favor and make Kurt Warner a contract offer, because he'll either find out that the Cardinals are making him a very fair offer and he'll accept it, or else you'll overpay for him and we can take that money and spend it in other areas. Either way, I don't have to hear about it anymore. Thank you, yotsuya P.S. I told you Alex Smith's hands were too small. 52 Weeks and Something's On Movie Blog
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