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GTA:IV-ever
April 28th 2008, 21:28 CEST by CheesyPoof

Talk, play, bitch, whatever.

The game is getting A+'s and 10/10 all over the place, including the tight wads at EuroGamer.

We must also strike while the iron is hot to organize any PC play sessions, 360 only, sorry Bob. And doubly sorry to PC only gamers (sorry Dum).
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#2851 by G-Man
2008-08-15 17:55:17
If you crapsift you'll see that using a proxy is usually my first suggestion too, but remote desktop solutions are better for the less technically inclined.
#2852 by Ergo
2008-08-15 18:14:13
I'm very technically inclined but I couldn't be bothered to set up all that shit. Plus, Linux? Bleh.

Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.

--Flowers
#2853 by deadlock
2008-08-15 18:49:48
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Did I say Linux? I specifically didn't. I'm pretty sure you could do it with a Windows box if you were that way inclined.

#2854 by deadlock
2008-08-15 18:52:39
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Anyway, it's not that complicated; canned installs of SSHD (which most unix/linux boxes have by default anyway) and squid will work without any additional effort. Plus, I'm not suggesting that you specifically install unix/linux to do this - if you had a box at home for remote shell access anyway then it might be a good idea for getting you around your company's web filtering.

#2855 by deadlock
2008-08-15 18:52:52
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Assuming you're not worried about getting fired, of course.

#2856 by BobJustBob
2008-08-15 18:57:26
SSHD stands for Super Stardust HD, the PSN game. Find another acronym loonixites.

"That's not to say that games shouldn't have stories, I just think the story should be the player's story, and find more ways to celebrate and promote that, rather than the game designer's story that you're imposing upon them." - Will Wright
#2857 by CheesyPoof
2008-08-15 20:04:25
Net security is a pretty important thing here. I'm not sure what I want to try and 'route' around it that might set off alarm bells. The best route around that I can think of is to not access it at work, or iPhone (now that would be ironic).

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#2858 by BobJustBob
2008-08-15 20:05:30
Unixtarians.

"That's not to say that games shouldn't have stories, I just think the story should be the player's story, and find more ways to celebrate and promote that, rather than the game designer's story that you're imposing upon them." - Will Wright
#2859 by gaggle
2008-08-15 23:23:56
Wow, hooking my TV to the Mac sure was easy. Plugged the cable in, and that was it. Using it with the lid closed right now (and it threw me off for a couple minutes that I had to have the adapter in to use it this way), and it works a treat. Also tried it with the lid open and it seems to work wonderfully for presentations and stuff. Happy times.

The wireless Mighty Mouse sucks though. It'll probably, barely, be good enough if I ever get a Mac Mini as a media server, there's not a lot of clicking involved in opening a bunch of files through Finder. But for actual work, even just using Firefox, it's omglaggybad so far. Well it's either lag or OSX's weird attempt at cursor-acceleration, hard to tell.

"GUY WHO OUTRANKS YOU: Take Superfly here and reconfooble the energymotron."
#2860 by lwf
2008-08-15 23:48:01
Yeah, the wireless MM is a total dog. Also, you are way too high on Apples.

Once bread becomes toast, it can never go back. Wii.
#2861 by gaggle
2008-08-16 00:45:30
A leetle.

"GUY WHO OUTRANKS YOU: Take Superfly here and reconfooble the energymotron."
#2862 by jjohnsen
2008-08-16 01:30:44
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Might Mouse sucks, I hate how it feels.  Before Apple tv we used to watch movies using that adapter, it wasn't as great on our iBook because of the max resolution, but it would probably look great on my MBP.

But have I mentioned I hate Apple right now for taking my laptop away for ten days?

#2863 by BobJustBob
2008-08-16 01:55:20
I finally set up Vista to share movies as well as music and it turns out my PS3 can play almost everything. The stuff I copied off my ReplayTV and off my GB_PVR box, sure, it's all MPEG2, but I could swear I used xvid when I ripped all my Futurama DVDs. Anyway, it's awesome. It even remembers where I left off.

"That's not to say that games shouldn't have stories, I just think the story should be the player's story, and find more ways to celebrate and promote that, rather than the game designer's story that you're imposing upon them." - Will Wright
#2864 by LPMiller
2008-08-16 02:11:30
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
the PS3 does play most xvid.  And yeah, it's a touch better than using the 360 to stream to as far as playback goes, but the folder interface is kind of stupid.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" - "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."

"LP, your big balls are a religion." - Jibble
#2865 by BobJustBob
2008-08-16 02:16:22
Yeah, playing music is a bit of a pain because of the folders. I like to set everything to shuffle or a specific artist to shuffle, but I can only do it by album.

"That's not to say that games shouldn't have stories, I just think the story should be the player's story, and find more ways to celebrate and promote that, rather than the game designer's story that you're imposing upon them." - Will Wright
#2866 by CheesyPoof
2008-08-16 02:20:58
What do you need to hook up a MacBook to a TV? My TV had a DVI input (I think), but that doesn't do shit about sound, so I guess I'd need two cables. Sounds annoying.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#2867 by Greg
2008-08-16 03:01:10
I didn't think I'd like the Mighty Mouse, and that I'd go out and buy a new mouse for the new iMac that I got a few weeks ago. But it's not bad, the little nipple is pretty nice, and outside of the fact it doesn't really like the surface of my desk (occasionally will jump to corners), I have no complaints.

#2868 by lwf
2008-08-16 10:55:20
The right clicks don't register as often as I'd like. And the bluetooth one was annoyingly laggy for me. The wired ones at school are much better, but still don't register right clicks 100% of the time.

Once bread becomes toast, it can never go back. Wii.
#2869 by Squeaky
2008-08-16 11:17:26
lwf is a fucking douchebag.

#2870 by gaggle
2008-08-16 11:35:48
I do like the nipple as well. Another annoyance is that I can't quite manage to lift the mouse while holding down a button. Dragging a file somewhere better not be farther away than where the mouse can move to in one swipe.

"GUY WHO OUTRANKS YOU: Take Superfly here and reconfooble the energymotron."
#2871 by jjohnsen
2008-08-16 19:14:06
http://www.johnsenclan.com
i enjoy nipples normally, but the one on the Mighty Mouse doesn't do anything for me.  And it seemed to lag a bit.  I prefer my logitech.

#2872 by gaggle
2008-08-17 15:45:43
I asked once if there was a good application for handling .rar files and such, and it turns out there is. The Unarchiver. It's probably what jj has, it's presents such a minimal user interface that I can't blame him for not remembering which program he was using.

"Braid breaks one of my personal most fundamental rules of games design within minutes of starting - they have timed puzzles."
#2873 by LPMiller
2008-08-17 16:32:36
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
you know, if you spent more time reading what people wrote instead of typing 20 page paragraphs describing your every thought on every thing, you'd have noticed that the Unarchiver was in fact mentioned.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" - "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."

"LP, your big balls are a religion." - Jibble
#2874 by gaggle
2008-08-17 16:58:15
If I stop twittering the site dies. Why do you want the site to die LP? It's basically all me and bob these days anyways, and the two of us just don't fight like we once did.

S'good point on Unarchiver though, but it didn't show up on Crapsifter so I figured it wasn't mentioned.

"Braid breaks one of my personal most fundamental rules of games design within minutes of starting - they have timed puzzles."
#2875 by jjohnsen
2008-08-17 18:29:38
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Maybe that's what I have.  It just opens it, I never actually see any kind of interface, and that's how I like it.

#2876 by Penguinx
2008-10-12 17:32:15
I'm on Twitter. Frenden.

I bought a MacPro. 2TB storage, 10gb of RAM, two quad-core processors (eight cores woo).

I bought the bare bones version and upgraded it all third party. Apple's prices for upgrades blow.
#2877 by lwf
2008-10-12 19:46:14
Maaan I wanted to do that. The Mac Pro is badass, I couldn't even justify the price of the barebones though.

Once bread becomes toast, it can never go back. Wii.
#2878 by Penguinx
2008-10-12 19:59:35
I had to get it. My iMac was old and not keeping up with the file sizes I worked with any longer. Plus, it was fried during a storm.

Time Machine had me up and running on the new machine in about an hour with no data loss.
#2879 by Ergo
2008-10-12 20:22:56
Jesus. Apple completely rapes you, price-wise. Even their "bare-bones" model is ridiculously overpriced.

Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.

--Flowers
#2880 by Penguinx
2008-10-12 20:35:45
Agreed, but I didn't want an unstable hackintosh and I refuse to use Vista. I have 64bit apps in my workflow and the only thing worse than 32bit Windows is 64bit Windows.
#2881 by Mister Nutty
2008-10-12 20:41:33
Vista x64 isn't bad, liar!  I use it on a quad-core PC with 8 gb of memory.

And you're going to be crying like some little bitch koala who fell out of a tree and then his claws fell off when CS4 is released with a Windows 64 bit version but no Mac OS 64 bit version!
#2882 by lwf
2008-10-12 20:46:34
I like Vista a lot. Vista is great.

Once bread becomes toast, it can never go back. Wii.
#2883 by Penguinx
2008-10-12 20:46:48
I would if I used Photoshop. Photoshop is a big, steaming pile of bloated shit.
#2884 by gaggle
2008-10-12 20:53:25
#2879 by Ergo
Jesus. Apple completely rapes you, price-wise. Even their "bare-bones" model is ridiculously overpriced.

How so? How mudh does a Dell quad-core x2, 2TB machine cost? I've always been told Apple sells their RAM at a high price so there's reason to just buy some ordinary sticks and do that part yourself, but other than that is Apple all that expensive compared to the hardware you're getting?

"Blizzard could easily appease the color-hostile fans by adding a graphics option that reduces chroma by 90% and brightness by 50%. And maybe changes all spoken text to goth poetry."
#2885 by Mister Nutty
2008-10-12 21:00:46
Apple's prices aren't really that much more than PCs, IMO, the problem is just that they have such a small selection of systems that there are gaping holes in their offerings.  Like the Mac Pro is more system than almost anyone needs for a desktop right now, but the iMac is too weak and there's nothing in between.
#2886 by Penguinx
2008-10-12 21:03:38
I would pay twice as much. NEVER AGAIN, WINDOWS. NEVER AGAIN.
#2887 by Penguinx
2008-10-12 21:05:15
I agree with that, Nutty. iMacs are great systems for the average worker/home though. I do need a MacPro, so I wasn't alienated by the lack of middleground.
#2888 by Penguinx
2008-10-12 21:07:18
One more thing about Windows:

Vista + Cintiq = drawing through Jello.

OS X + Cintiq = as close to drawing on paper with digital tools as we have at the moment.
#2889 by anaqer
2008-10-12 21:08:52
#2885

Hence the unkillable xMac rumors at Ars, AppleInsider, etc.

If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate!
#2890 by gaggle
2008-10-12 21:20:27
#2886 by Penguinx
I would pay twice as much. NEVER AGAIN, WINDOWS. NEVER AGAIN.

I love my Macbook. I surprised myself by not even bothering with Bootcamp, fuck it, I get enough Windows at work.

"Blizzard could easily appease the color-hostile fans by adding a graphics option that reduces chroma by 90% and brightness by 50%. And maybe changes all spoken text to goth poetry."
#2891 by gaggle
2008-10-12 21:22:19
I'd love to see the Mac Mini as a sort of middle-ground, stationary computer but small formfactor. No screen but a little more power than the iMacs.

I don't believe that'll happen mind you, but I can still dream.

"Blizzard could easily appease the color-hostile fans by adding a graphics option that reduces chroma by 90% and brightness by 50%. And maybe changes all spoken text to goth poetry."
#2892 by Mister Nutty
2008-10-12 22:42:28
Well there are tons of rumors that Apple's going to release a sub-$1000 notebook soon, so maybe they'll introduce an affordable mid-range desktop as well.   I'd be really surprised if they don't make some moves to get into the slightly lower end markets at this point, given the OMG WORLD IS OVER economic situation.
#2893 by Gunp01nt
2008-10-12 23:39:17
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Isn't that what the iMacs are for? I remember those getting some household marketshare before 9/11 and the dotcom bust when money was no object for anybody.

"Wow I didn't expect it to be good. I mean no offense, but you're a bald headed punk rocker in bifocals and Genghis Khan mustache and the band sounds like Benny Goodman on crosstops with Alvin from the chipmunks on vocals..... I'll take one"
#2894 by gaggle
2008-10-13 01:56:30
iMacs are your average dad-needs-to-check-email, and Mac Pros are überomgwtf CPU monsters. Apple don't currently do anything that's just sort of a duo or quad ordinary CPU and a good graphicscard, and I don't know if they ever will. If they make a move for games it might happen, but enh...

It's not a terrible crime imo, I'll rather leave hardcore games to the 360 anyway (or if it has to be PC I play at the office).

"Blizzard could easily appease the color-hostile fans by adding a graphics option that reduces chroma by 90% and brightness by 50%. And maybe changes all spoken text to goth poetry."
#2895 by Penguinx
2008-10-13 05:29:04
The MacPro is ridiculous. I love it. Never stutters no matter how many renders I have going, no matter if iTunes is running while I work, my mail app, my twitter app, my IM app...

Holy multitask.
#2896 by None-1a
2008-10-13 06:37:05
gaggle
Apple don't currently do anything that's just sort of a duo or quad ordinary CPU and a good graphicscard, and I don't know if they ever will.


Apple has a leg up on most windows boxes on those systems actaully. The two 'mid-range' iMacs come with 2.66-2.8ghz core 2 duo's and a Radeon HD 2600 PRO, where as Dell's XPS One has similar specs (and price) but only a Mobility HD 2400 avalible.

The only falure the iMac has as a mid-range product is that it uses a built in monitor which bloats the price compared to a mid-range windows box that's usualy sold with out a monitor or with a lowest cost 17 inch lcd they could find.

The one product Apple's line truely lacks is a high end desktop system not a mid-range. Remember the Mac Pro is not a desktop system, it's a workstation/server.

Don't forget garnishes such as: Fish shaped solid waste.
#2897 by deadlock
2008-10-13 16:35:36
http://www.deadlocked.org/
I don't think I mention this often enough but I absolutely love my Macbook. Love it. I'm like gaggle - I was pretty certain that Bootcamp was 'when' and not 'if' but so far I haven't come across anything that would make me want to run Windows on it.

Actually, that's not strictly true - I have a few games on steam that I'd like to be able to play (I now run Linux on my old desktop machine so I've no Windows boxes in the house at all) so I sometimes consider installing XP on the MB. But then I remember that the video card in the Macbook is pretty pathetic so I figure there's no point because I'll just get pissed off with the poor fidelity.

#2898 by Ergo
2008-10-13 18:49:35
I Bootcamped my Macbook Pro in order to play a few games, since gaming for OSX is pathetic. Runs HL2 like a champ.

Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.

--Flowers
#2899 by lwf
2008-10-13 22:18:53
OSX is useful for me when it comes to torrenting and writing papers. No word processor I've tried on OSX does everything the same as word for windows.

Once bread becomes toast, it can never go back. Wii.
#2900 by LPMiller
2008-10-14 01:49:49
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
other than word for mac.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" - "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."

"LP, your big balls are a religion." - Jibble
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