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So is Planetcrap dead then?
April 8th 2008, 02:18 CEST by Chunkstyle In #planetcrap the question came up of whether the site is finally dead. Post counts are down to the level of when the Crap started, the number of posters is way down (especially when you include Joker alts), and the level of discussion has dropped as well. So is that it? Have the multitude of other gaming sites and forums removed the need for the crappiest place on the web? Will the last one to leave forever please turn off the server? |
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Also, Matt, in your post you say that you'd like to see a couple of other people empowered to approve topics, but then you go and say that you won't submit a topic here because you don't want to have to go through the "do the moderators like it" filter and one of your topics was rejected before. So really, the problem isn't the amount of people approving topics -- Gabe is a query away for that and very responsive -- the problem is that once one of the approvers rejects your topic you don't want to write any more, and so we're back to the issue of there not being enough topics. Though most people shouldn't take one rejection so seriously. Bellydance!
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There have been a couple of times when I've thought up a topic to write. Then I reconsider and post a condensed version in 290. I'm part of the problem! |
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I don't ever remember Gabe killing a Perkin's topic. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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I think what Matt is trying to say is that he would like to be granted authority to push his own topics through. Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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He's the new m0nty. Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.
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Basically what I do is push, ignore, or delete. Things I've ignored have gotten voted in or out eventually. I remember not forcing a m0nty topic, but not a Matthew one. It's certainly possible I didn't push one of his. I certainly didn't DELETE them. It amuses me that they both rail against the despotism because at some point in the past the despotism wasn't on their side for an instant push. |
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I find I don't talk about games on the Crap as much as I might, specifically PC games, because it feels, rightly or wrongly, like a lot of the folks here who still game right now pirate everything. I think part of the problem is that we're older and slower. I still play games about 4.5 days a week (proof!) but I very rarely get games at release. I think the reason qt3 has such energetic game talk is that there are a lot of day-one campers there, and they all play the same games at the same time. There's a bit of that here, but I think a lot of us are playing games that have been out for months or years and so if we talk about the games we're playing, it's a different dynamic. Other people may have played the game but it lacks the shared experience of a bunch of people playing the same thing at the same time. I know that when I played Assassin's Creed, part of what made it cool was just getting to be involved in the release-time discussion. Oh, and I haven't pirated a game since Space Rangers 2, except for DOA XBV, but that's because I refuse to pay for porn. Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
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Wow, way to read things in to what I say. I do think it's seriously silly to have one guy's bent deciding the submission bin. I didn't take it personally when Gabe didn't push my topic. I'm not on his cool guy list and that's cool. I did learn not to submit topics...I just post in an existing topic like I do now. I can't even remember what the topic was, probably because it wasn't a big deal. Heck, those of you are on his list or know what Gabe likes, do submit interesting, timely topics. I am by no means saying I'm the savior of this site or need to be able to push my topics through. Only that we need more topics and more discussion points. I think that's best expressed by multiple people having say in it. And I'd say that if it was Gabe, me, or someone else being the only person deciding content on the site. I could obviously be wrong. /me goes back to petting his now long forgotten topic and setting up his incredibly spectacular revenge plans! "Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
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Gabe (#111): It amuses me that they both rail against the despotism because at some point in the past the despotism wasn't on their side for an instant push. It amuses me that people assume this is the reason I suggest more than one voice have say on the content shown on the front page. *shrugs* "Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
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I also vouch for the '"n00bs" get flamed and don't come back' thing as being overrated. Look at TreeFrog. We didn't run him off. I've always maintained that there is no initiation process. There's just the constant snark and flaming that we're all imune to and noobs aren't. They either toughen up or they quit. But there's no "alright, you passed your hazing, now we'll all be civil" like some kind of frat-house debate club. Really, if you don't enjoy getting called a dickhead sucker fool, this is not the site for you. the troll that must not be named, lest you be scolded by funk Starting a new meme, are we? Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
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I sure am trying! <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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Funk is probably Joker. Game Developers: Don't forget the zombie monkeys.
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I didn't take it personally when Gabe didn't push my topic. I'm not on his cool guy list and that's cool. That's...pretty much the definition of taking it personally. Bellydance!
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Cool guy list? I have almost no interaction with Jibble other than to tell him his kid is boring and he had the impression I push almost everything. What topics am I not pushing that should have been? I've only ever deleted spam or obvious trolls, so if it's not in the submission bin or live, it was voted out. |
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But Joker with a well-shaved head, due to some product I don't remember. Game Developers: Don't forget the zombie monkeys.
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I'd be in favour of giving 10 or so people the power to push topics, though perhaps not their own. But not Matt because he's illiterate. The only reason to not just automatically post everything to the frong page is spam and crap from the troll who must not be named lest you be scolded by funk. I think it would improve things a lot of people were able to write topics, then post a single "somebody push my topic, you fucks" rather than having to wait for all the fucks to vote, during which time we all mock the topic in the thread where it was announced and by the time it hits the front page we're all bored with it, even though we haven't really discussed it. Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
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I love it when Perkins goes into martyr-mode. Poor 'lil fella. Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.
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Caryn said in #106: it forces a standard of quality on the topics for discussion, and I like that. Are you high? It doesn't enforce a standard of quality, it reduces quality to the lowest possible level. Most of the topics here are of the "XXX fucks you up the ass" or "keeping it all in one place" variety. Which is fine by me because I don't think I really want to visit yet another forum that has meaningful topics with small, but focused discussion centering on those topics. Or at least, the transition would be hard to get used to after having experienced PC in its broken state for so long. |
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it reduces quality to the lowest possible level Really? |
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It's a standard of quality that's a step above a system that would allow any topic to be immediately posted (which would flood PC with the troll submissions that get deleted or ignored currently). The standard of quality just happens to be limited in scope right now to what types of submissions we're getting. If we had some Andy Smith-type submissions we might see the criteria for acceptance and rejection rise in standards. But when you're choosing between the troll submissions and "sports to keep it all in one place"...eh, the standard of quality is still being enforced even if the bar is low. Bellydance!
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You're worse than friggan gunp0int. What car did buy and what are you fixing, etc. I bought a BMW 325i Touring with what I thought was a burnt head gasket. But the fault is with the cylinder head itself, which seems to be cracked (apparently a widespread issue on E30 BMWs). I couldn't find a used cylinder head that I trusted, so I went and bought a whole car that was pretty cheap, so I was buying an engine I'd seen running. I'm taking out its head plus the tail lights, because the car I want to keep has tail lights that have been entirely coated red, which in Germany is asking for trouble, plus I might keep the original headlights as well because the car I bought first has a pair of those so-called Angel Eyes, and I don't know how durable those are. The rest will have to go, which really is a shame because the body is very sound and has less rust than the one I'm planning to keep. I could just keep the one I bought for spares but the interior is pretty trashed, the rear diff makes banging noises, and the engine seems to have a little less pull than the one from the other car (which is chipped, dunno how much of a difference that can be, never had a chipped naturally-aspirated car) and it smokes black under heavy acceleration. So it's either: keep car with some rust, just repair and change cylinder head, or keep car with less rust, but change differential, engine block, repair cylinder and change cyl. head, change seats, change roof lining... And the second option is too much hassle for me only to have a car with a little less rust. "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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This site sucks. My new old topic hasn't been pushed through. |^^^^^^^^^^^^ |||__
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Mine has. Maybe it is just YOU WHO ARE SUCKING! |
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Can I say Wow again? And again? You guys obviously have a way you're going to think about this. More power to you. I'm neither trying to play the martyrdom card or the Gabe sucks card. It went like this, Gabe said, I'll push any topic through. I submitted a topic, asked Gabe to push it. He said he didn't like it. I said...well...that sucks. Then, Greg submitted a topic mere minutes later, a empty topic that was just blather and asked Gabe to push it. He did. It was obviously just to bring the funny to my topic not making it in. That's where the cool guy list comment comes in. Story finished. That's it. I harbor no ill will. I didn't worry about it beyond the "that sucks" thought and didn't do anything else about it or even bring it up until you guys did today. But again, you'll read this however you want. I do find it pretty damn amusing though. I guess I really should get on that revenge plan since I can't stop obsessing about it. Wait, I meant laughing at you chaps. All of that aside, I completely stand by my original statement that having more than one opinion on the submissions can only be a good thing. The talk of, "if it's not in the bin, it wasn't voted in" is cute...because no topic has been voted in awhile. A good long while...because the number of votes has nothing to do with the number of active posters. "Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
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But again, you'll read this however you want. No, not really. However, there's this river in Egypt you should study... <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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I don't really remember the incident, but I admit I did laugh (presumably again) at the idea of not pushing Matthew's topic and then pushing some BS thing Greg wrote. I assume there was some intervening whining. |
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Matt - you should write that post about Stardock. It sounds interesting. Also every time I see "Stardock" I read "Starforce" and my body releases enough RAGE ADRENALINE to keep my blackened heart pumping. |
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Starforce therapy! Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
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HNNNNNGGGGGG |
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I'd make a stardock topic, but since Gabe hates me with the fiery passion of a thousand suns, it wouldn't be pushed through. "Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
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You never know. He might push it and then rag you into the ground for writing a shitty topic. But hey, you'd still have Paris. I mean, the topic. |
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Relevant link |
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It would never get pushed through now-it would ruin a good running gag. |
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Of that thread, this one really stood out: ......you'd think after all this time, your period and caryn's would sync up. I agree completely with that. "Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
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It went like this, Gabe said, I'll push any topic through. I submitted a topic, asked Gabe to push it. He said he didn't like it. I said...well...that sucks. Then, Greg submitted a topic mere minutes later, a empty topic that was just blather and asked Gabe to push it. He did. It was obviously just to bring the funny to my topic not making it in. That's where the cool guy list comment comes in. That's not hatred, that's good comedy. Game Developers: Don't forget the zombie monkeys.
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Chunkstyle (#140): That's not hatred, that's good comedy. I'll admit, it wasn't that funny at the time, and it did prove my point...but in hindsight, yeah, pretty funny in multiple ways. "Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
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Re: Me=Troll. I'm a bit tired of the Mexican and others jumping all over themselves to call me this, or nazi, dummy etc. Lately I haven't really posted much. And when I did, I basically just went for cheap and obvious one-liners. Why? Because It's obvious people dislike me and/or many of the opinions I've stated here, and so they don't honor anything I post by answering me like they would to someone else, so I felt it isn't really worth for me to bother writing anything "serious" or "elaborate" (to my standards, however low you might consider them) because people will just ignore it anyway. So it kind of is a vicious cycle. Looking back at some of the things I posted, yes, some/much of it may not have been too bright or has been badly worded. For example, my question of young black female's slang. I got keelhauled for that, but to this day I must say I really was curious about this. I looked at how German youths walk around pretending to be Eminem, and heard how they speak like they were some kind of gangstas, even if we are ten thousand kilometers away from your east coast. So I wondered if this phenomenon is only a local thing here in Germany, out of admiration or whatever for US hip-hop stars/lifestyle, or if this "ghetto-talk" is also frequent in US youth's everyday reality. I often cite TV as a source that influences my ideas of the world, because for someone living on the other side of the ocean, TV is really the only window through which I can look at the USA, besides googling for "how Americans live". And I never said I took anything seen on TV for granted, I've always only asked things like "seen this on TV, is it true?". Me saying I dislike doner stands on a Christmas market? That wasn't really anti-Turkish or anti-muslemic. I'd have said the same about hamburgers, spaghetti or sauerkraut. I just don't see it fitting to see a ratio of 10 doner stands vs. 1 Christmas specialities stand. No, doners don't offend me. McDonalds doesn't offend me. Pizza doesn't offend me. But on a Christmas market, I only want roasted almonds, hot wine, candybars... stuff like that. That doesn't make me a racist. It may make me a traditionalist, sure. When I made the n-word joke? That really just was a joke, and your reactions to it have been very exagerated, but may be typical for a society that (maybe just like Germans) is a little bit too obsessed with always being politically correct, maybe out of fear for being accused of something if you aren't. I could go on but I guess nobody will read it, anyway. Sorry. Now go ahead and insult me, I don't care anymore. "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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tl;dr "Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
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Who thinks they're on my cool guy list? |
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FoRmaT, you sure do whine a lot. |
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I'm pretty cool, but I bet I'm not on the list. My coolness is hidden, like my underpants. Game Developers: Don't forget the zombie monkeys.
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I'm on the cool guy list! <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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#145, See that round thing between your mouse buttons? "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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Format, if you're earnest, it's not what you say, but how you say it. For example, trying to be taken seriously when you start off your post with "the Mexican" doesn't help your case. If you honestly forgot who that was but couldn't think of another adjective to describe them, then leave it empty and say "some poster". <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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List, bah - that would imply multiple entries. #10 - Why not both come out of a window?
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This thread is a great eulogy. "I don't like story in games." - Soren Johnson
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Docfox, you finally made the jump! Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
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What's the difference of me saying "the Mexican" and all of you who say "the Canadian", "the Eastern European" etc. all the time? I think none, really. "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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#145 by docfox FoRmaT, you sure do whine a lot. Are you stealing our meme? |
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#148 by FoRmaT See that round thing between your mouse buttons? Somebody used to have it for an avatar... Warren, maybe? Help me out. #10 - Why not both come out of a window?
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