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Listen! Do you smell something?
April 8th 2008, 02:18 CEST by TreeFrog

Swelling orchestral scores in games have been on the up-and-up for years now, but how many can you think of that really paid attention to their sound effects? The only one that springs to my mind is S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - despite its many and varied failures it was atmospheric as all hell, partly due to the appropriate and restrained creepy background noises.

This fellow shows how serious developers can get about SFX if they're willing to put in the time. Could this be a way for games to differentiate themselves, given the increasing commoditisation of graphics? Do enough people have speaker setups that would allow them to appreciate that level of detail? Or are we sentenced to FOOTSTEP_ON_CONCRETE_2 for eternity?
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#53 by Shadarr
2008-04-09 19:24:32
shadarr@gmail.com http://digital-luddite.com
You keep buying more games that you can't get past the second mission in?

Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
#54 by FoRmaT
2008-04-09 19:27:03
My problem is that I'm really really unpatient with games.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#55 by FoRmaT
2008-04-09 19:28:00
Besides, I warezed it when it first came out and later bought a compilation of the games for like 10€, so it wasn't a big investment.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#56 by Squeaky
2008-04-09 20:41:59
#47 by Matt Perkins
I'd have to disagree, having played DoW before they fucked the game up with patches. If you look at the game pre-patched and what they did with it by the time Dark Crusade came out it becomes extremely obvious not only does Relic have no real idea how to balance a game, they don't really know what they want from the game long term when they release it. By the time Dark Crusade came around they had drastically altered the way the game was played...instead of it being like Age of Mythology:Titans, it became more generic RTS.

BAWWWWWWW!!!!!

#57 by Dumdeedum
2008-04-16 12:46:41
http://www.dumdeedum.com
God bless the BBC, it may be attached to a boring story but "Smith pledges more terror police" is definitely my headline of the day.  I mean, c'mon, Terror Police!  If that's not awesome then nothing is.  It does kind of put me in mind of a sketch though.

MP3 Of The Week: Proving LWF right
#58 by bago
2008-04-16 14:07:56
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
If I got a shot of morrisey saying meat is murder, and murder tastes god overlaid with british protest suppression I would giggle quite a lot.

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.
#59 by gaggle
2008-04-16 15:21:46
Haha awesome sketches.

"the accusations are such nonsense that I have found it difficult to treat them with the contempt that they deserve." - Clarke
#60 by Ergo
2008-04-16 18:20:16
That Mitchell and Webb Look is a consistently funny show. We stumbled across it last weekend and ended up watching about 4 episodes in a row.

Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.

--Flowers
#61 by Dumdeedum
2008-04-16 18:43:32
http://www.dumdeedum.com
Well as consistent as any sketch show is ever going to be, hit and miss is the nature of that particular beast, but yeah their batting average is pretty good.  The Sir Digby Chicken Caesar ones are the best ones I can think of off the top of my head.

MP3 Of The Week: Lionrock - Rude Boy Rock.mp3 (?)
#62 by TreeFrog
2008-04-16 18:59:40
They have eminently punchable faces.
#63 by Ergo
2008-04-16 19:03:07
#61 by Dumdeedum

The Sir Digby Chicken Caesar ones are the best ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Yeah, those sketches in particular had us giggling.

Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.

--Flowers
#64 by gaggle
2008-04-16 21:14:44
Wow what a horrible sketch, that was boring. <troll>I can't believe someone finds that giggle-worthy, though it does go hand in hand with Ergo's vanilla taste</troll> I enjoyed the first couple of seconds, but the rest seemed like pointless crap to me.

At any rate, I enjoyed this one much more, it's in the same theme as the originally linked one.

"the accusations are such nonsense that I have found it difficult to treat them with the contempt that they deserve." - Clarke
#65 by Ergo
2008-04-17 01:06:42
If it were anyone but gaggle, I might be a wee bit offended. But since it IS gaggle, I can just point and laugh. Repeatedly. With tears running down my cheeks.

Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.

--Flowers
#66 by FoRmaT
2008-04-17 01:42:55
"This video is not available in your country."

Fucking Germany, fucking censorship, fucking Germans who keep saying Americans aren't free anymore, while Americans have lost freedom than Germans ever had. I'M FUCKING ANGRY! Not because I'm that much interested in seeing that video, but because I'm prohibited from doing so. Is this China or fucking what?

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#67 by bago
2008-04-17 10:11:40
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Fuck the terror police. I give you the Tokyo Gore Police.

*global warming not involved.

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.
#68 by yotsuya
2008-04-17 19:30:18
Speaking of sound....

For you Euros out there, is the Eurovision competition really a big deal? Every year I always end up reading an article about it.
#69 by Chunkstyle
2008-04-17 20:01:34
chunkstyle46@yahoo.com
Every year I end up never having heard of it before.  Until this one.  Way to ruin a good streak, Yot.

Game Developers: Don't forget the zombie monkeys.
#70 by Dumdeedum
2008-04-17 20:09:29
http://www.dumdeedum.com
Not really, it's a bit like an older, more established version of one of those America's Top Reality Shite programs.  That is, something for the common man to look down on while discussing it at length in their workplace.

The best bit is generally that the BBC reanimate the presenter Terry Wogan for it every year and he's mildly racist in a jovial manner at all the other countries between the songs.  Not good enough to make it worth watching, but if there was nothing else on and someone had compiled about two and a half minutes of the best of Terry calling Albanians wankers then you could do worse.

MP3 Of The Week: Lionrock - Rude Boy Rock.mp3 (?)
#71 by gaggle
2008-04-17 20:22:42
A what vision?

So I would say no.

"the accusations are such nonsense that I have found it difficult to treat them with the contempt that they deserve." - Clarke
#72 by m0nty
2008-04-17 20:39:48
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I wish they had Zombie Wogan on it down here. We get it on the multicultural station and they have their own Eurotrash-wannabe hosts making lame jokes.
#73 by TreeFrog
2008-04-17 21:33:59
Wogan's the only good thing about that ordeal. Apart from when someone starts taking it seriously, that's usually good for a laugh. Like when Jonathan King decided he wanted to run Britain's entry and Go For Gold. Only he turned out to be a kiddy fiddler, so maybe not so much with the LOLs.
#74 by BobJustBob
2008-04-17 21:37:59
He was a violinist as a child?

"I don't like story in games." - Soren Johnson
#75 by deadlock
2008-04-17 21:44:22
http://www.deadlocked.org/
We take it very seriously indeed.

#76 by TreeFrog
2008-04-17 22:57:27
YES. Now THAT is how you go about entering Eurovision.
#77 by Ergo
2008-04-17 22:58:05
Turkeys mean serious business.

Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.

--Flowers
#78 by FoRmaT
2008-04-17 23:04:14
Hmmm turkeys!

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#79 by deadlock
2008-04-17 23:17:21
http://www.deadlocked.org/
I'm torn actually. On the one hand I know I should be embarassed that Ireland is sending a puppet to represent us at what is - love it or loathe it - a very popular event that garners huge viewing figures every year.

But having said that, Dustin the Turkey is genuinely funny and comes from a golden age of subversive kids TV in Ireland. These two started out on prime time kids TV, for example.

#80 by gaggle
2008-04-17 23:31:25
Hm, I'm actually more interested in the Eurovision now.

"the accusations are such nonsense that I have found it difficult to treat them with the contempt that they deserve." - Clarke
#81 by gaggle
2008-04-17 23:39:44
This fucking won something??! What am I missing? Didn't some horrible Finish band win last year or something? We need to nuke us from orbit…

"the accusations are such nonsense that I have found it difficult to treat them with the contempt that they deserve." - Clarke
#82 by deadlock
2008-04-18 00:50:02
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Gaggle:

It won the competition to be Ireland's entry. The Eurovision itself hasn't taken place yet...

#83 by gaggle
2008-04-18 01:07:31
It winning something, anything, is beyond words. It's actually worse than some of the recent winners of the Danish national music whateverthecrap. I would not have believed that had I not seen the youtube with mine own eyes.

"the accusations are such nonsense that I have found it difficult to treat them with the contempt that they deserve." - Clarke
#84 by Ashiran
2008-04-20 17:34:31
Eurovision rankings haven't been about quality for years now.

Any game where competence can be measured by the amount of clicks per minute is not a strategy game.
#85 by Gunp01nt
2008-04-20 18:28:13
supersimon33@hotmail.com
The great thing about the Eurovision song festival are the accusations of political voting, coming from countries who lose. As if there's a great Eastern European conspiracy to conquer Europe by voting for crap songs.

"It's called treaty mode. It's there for people who want to enforce that kind of play. In other words, it's there for the Dutch."
#86 by FoRmaT
2008-04-20 19:51:49
There's absolutely no point at all to this crapfest. It's as pointless as wrestling. What does it prove about the winning country? Nada. It's like "Our country is better because this casting winner knows how to sing!". Ridiculous! And most of the time, participating groups are totally unknown in their own country.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#87 by TreeFrog
2008-04-21 16:36:42
Kitsch needs no point. It is now self-sustaining.
#88 by FoRmaT
2008-04-26 04:06:12
Unlike this thread.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#89 by TreeFrog
2008-04-26 14:29:20
I'll prod it back to life once I can make a few observations about the sound in Oblivion. But I'm going to a 3pm-1am ULTRAGIG in a wee while, and looking at cars tomorrow, so it'll have to wait.
Gig linked from my last.fm, if anyone gives a shit. Mogwai ftw.
#90 by FoRmaT
2008-04-26 14:33:36
More details on the looking at cars tomorrow, please.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#91 by anaqer
2008-04-27 01:08:34
#89 by TreeFrog
I'll prod it back to life once I can make a few observations about the sound in Oblivion.

Sound is quite possibly one of the worst aspects of Oblivion. Extremely generic background muzak and lackluster sound effects for weapons/spells (not to mention the ever-repeating enemy NPC responses..ugh). And the persuasion minigame. And the guards. And... fweh.

#10 - Why not both come out of a window?
#92 by FoRmaT
2008-04-27 02:33:19
What's wrong with the guards?

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#93 by gaggle
2008-04-27 03:36:10
They come to arrest you for moving an item, using the most horrible piece of conversation to do so. They break any attempt at making the world seem even remotely alive.

"the accusations are such nonsense that I have found it difficult to treat them with the contempt that they deserve." - Clarke
#94 by TreeFrog
2008-04-27 03:51:25
Back. Half deaf. Frightened Rabbit were good, Mogwai were really good, other bands were shit. Venue and sound system were similarly pish.

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#95 by FoRmaT
2008-04-27 03:59:53
gaggle, that sounds pretty horrible, yeah.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#96 by Squeaky
2008-04-27 04:59:09
#92 by FoRmaT

What's wrong with the guards?

Every guard on the continent automatically knows if you're a criminal. You commit a crime out in the middle of Buttfuck Nowhere, Population: You, every guard in the world is after your ass.

#97 by CheesyPoof
2008-04-27 05:04:10
In a world where magic exists and all all shop keepers use WreckThief enchantment, you stand alone against all the King's men when you nick a plate...

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#98 by bago
2008-04-27 05:51:15
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Let them chase your ass into some cougars or trolls.

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.
#99 by None-1a
2008-04-27 07:35:59
The only thing I don't like about the guards is the use of the 'super' guard when a crime is reported (ie seen by anyone). That one bastard will follow you to the end of the world just to tell you that you've done something wrong and have to pay for it. After that guy is dealt with (I prefer leading him to the middle of nowhere and introducing him to a short sword after resisting arrest) it's a simple matter of just not being dumb enough to talk to any unnamed guards anymore.
#100 by FoRmaT
2008-04-27 21:45:22
99+1!

It DOES sound ridiculous that all guards in the universe are inmediately aware about you commiting a crime, when at the same time they aren't able to find that grey fox guy...

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#101 by None-1a
2008-04-28 06:39:07
Yeah but you don't have a magic mask like that grey fox guy.
#102 by bishop
2008-04-28 10:18:45
http://www.darkintellect.com/00FF00/
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