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Listen! Do you smell something?
April 8th 2008, 02:18 CEST by TreeFrog Swelling orchestral scores in games have been on the up-and-up for years now, but how many can you think of that really paid attention to their sound effects? The only one that springs to my mind is S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - despite its many and varied failures it was atmospheric as all hell, partly due to the appropriate and restrained creepy background noises. This fellow shows how serious developers can get about SFX if they're willing to put in the time. Could this be a way for games to differentiate themselves, given the increasing commoditisation of graphics? Do enough people have speaker setups that would allow them to appreciate that level of detail? Or are we sentenced to FOOTSTEP_ON_CONCRETE_2 for eternity? |
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Is C& C pretty simple? I'm sick of buying RTS's and only being able to play half the campaign because I'm so bad at it. |
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C&C 3 is really straightforward. I am having quite a bit of fun with it and the expansion and I am not a crazy ass RTS guy. I like the Mechapede! |
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jj, yes it's easy to pick up. You might want to check out Ground Control 2 also, which I remember being lovely, too. "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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Dawn of War: Dark Crusade is one of the best RTS games evar. |
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If you don't like RTSes, C&C 3 is for you. It's a pure tank rush game...more of an action game than a strategy game. If you're looking for good squad based strategy, I'd suggest Company of Heroes. It's good shit. "Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
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Squeaky (#45): Dawn of War: Dark Crusade is one of the best RTS games evar. I'd have to disagree, having played DoW before they fucked the game up with patches. If you look at the game pre-patched and what they did with it by the time Dark Crusade came out it becomes extremely obvious not only does Relic have no real idea how to balance a game, they don't really know what they want from the game long term when they release it. By the time Dark Crusade came around they had drastically altered the way the game was played...instead of it being like Age of Mythology:Titans, it became more generic RTS. That's being kinda harsh on Relic, but I'm a bit fanboish about their games and the original had such promise before they patched most of it out. "Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
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Matt, up to what patch can you safely go without fucking it up? "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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Company of Heroes is another one I loved but wasn't great at. I got about 1/3 of the way through before not having a chance. If C&c 3 is tank rush, it's probably more my style. |
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Just like me with the Commandos series. I've got all of them, I love them, but I think the farthest I only ever got was game one, mission two. I get nervous and fuck everything up while playing those games. "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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FoRmaT (#48): Matt, up to what patch can you safely go without fucking it up? I have no idea. I can tell you what changes though so you can see if it bothers you... When you play the game unpatched, the Chaos, for instance, are a very adaptable force. You can customize them as you create them. And the big end guys won't be seen except in a few matches where you get evenly matched competitors. In the patched version, each race is very locked into one/two style(s) of play. The top tier guys are much easier to get, but are arbitrarily limited in supply (you can only have one X guy and two of Y guy, etc). It changes the flow and the feel of the game... "Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
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Ugh, I hate it when a game limits my ability to create certain units. "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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You keep buying more games that you can't get past the second mission in? Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
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My problem is that I'm really really unpatient with games. "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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Besides, I warezed it when it first came out and later bought a compilation of the games for like 10€, so it wasn't a big investment. "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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#47 by Matt Perkins I'd have to disagree, having played DoW before they fucked the game up with patches. If you look at the game pre-patched and what they did with it by the time Dark Crusade came out it becomes extremely obvious not only does Relic have no real idea how to balance a game, they don't really know what they want from the game long term when they release it. By the time Dark Crusade came around they had drastically altered the way the game was played...instead of it being like Age of Mythology:Titans, it became more generic RTS. BAWWWWWWW!!!!! |
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God bless the BBC, it may be attached to a boring story but "Smith pledges more terror police" is definitely my headline of the day. I mean, c'mon, Terror Police! If that's not awesome then nothing is. It does kind of put me in mind of a sketch though. MP3 Of The Week: Proving LWF right
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If I got a shot of morrisey saying meat is murder, and murder tastes god overlaid with british protest suppression I would giggle quite a lot. Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.
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Haha awesome sketches. "the accusations are such nonsense that I have found it difficult to treat them with the contempt that they deserve." - Clarke
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That Mitchell and Webb Look is a consistently funny show. We stumbled across it last weekend and ended up watching about 4 episodes in a row. Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.
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Well as consistent as any sketch show is ever going to be, hit and miss is the nature of that particular beast, but yeah their batting average is pretty good. The Sir Digby Chicken Caesar ones are the best ones I can think of off the top of my head. MP3 Of The Week: Lionrock - Rude Boy Rock.mp3 (?)
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They have eminently punchable faces. |
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#61 by Dumdeedum The Sir Digby Chicken Caesar ones are the best ones I can think of off the top of my head. Yeah, those sketches in particular had us giggling. Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.
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Wow what a horrible sketch, that was boring. <troll>I can't believe someone finds that giggle-worthy, though it does go hand in hand with Ergo's vanilla taste</troll> I enjoyed the first couple of seconds, but the rest seemed like pointless crap to me. At any rate, I enjoyed this one much more, it's in the same theme as the originally linked one. "the accusations are such nonsense that I have found it difficult to treat them with the contempt that they deserve." - Clarke
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If it were anyone but gaggle, I might be a wee bit offended. But since it IS gaggle, I can just point and laugh. Repeatedly. With tears running down my cheeks. Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.
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"This video is not available in your country." Fucking Germany, fucking censorship, fucking Germans who keep saying Americans aren't free anymore, while Americans have lost freedom than Germans ever had. I'M FUCKING ANGRY! Not because I'm that much interested in seeing that video, but because I'm prohibited from doing so. Is this China or fucking what? "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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Fuck the terror police. I give you the Tokyo Gore Police. *global warming not involved. Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.
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Speaking of sound.... For you Euros out there, is the Eurovision competition really a big deal? Every year I always end up reading an article about it. |
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Every year I end up never having heard of it before. Until this one. Way to ruin a good streak, Yot. Game Developers: Don't forget the zombie monkeys.
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Not really, it's a bit like an older, more established version of one of those America's Top Reality Shite programs. That is, something for the common man to look down on while discussing it at length in their workplace. The best bit is generally that the BBC reanimate the presenter Terry Wogan for it every year and he's mildly racist in a jovial manner at all the other countries between the songs. Not good enough to make it worth watching, but if there was nothing else on and someone had compiled about two and a half minutes of the best of Terry calling Albanians wankers then you could do worse. MP3 Of The Week: Lionrock - Rude Boy Rock.mp3 (?)
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A what vision? So I would say no. "the accusations are such nonsense that I have found it difficult to treat them with the contempt that they deserve." - Clarke
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I wish they had Zombie Wogan on it down here. We get it on the multicultural station and they have their own Eurotrash-wannabe hosts making lame jokes. |
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Wogan's the only good thing about that ordeal. Apart from when someone starts taking it seriously, that's usually good for a laugh. Like when Jonathan King decided he wanted to run Britain's entry and Go For Gold. Only he turned out to be a kiddy fiddler, so maybe not so much with the LOLs. |
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He was a violinist as a child? "I don't like story in games." - Soren Johnson
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We take it very seriously indeed. |
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YES. Now THAT is how you go about entering Eurovision. |
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Turkeys mean serious business. Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.
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Hmmm turkeys! "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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I'm torn actually. On the one hand I know I should be embarassed that Ireland is sending a puppet to represent us at what is - love it or loathe it - a very popular event that garners huge viewing figures every year. But having said that, Dustin the Turkey is genuinely funny and comes from a golden age of subversive kids TV in Ireland. These two started out on prime time kids TV, for example. |
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Hm, I'm actually more interested in the Eurovision now. "the accusations are such nonsense that I have found it difficult to treat them with the contempt that they deserve." - Clarke
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This fucking won something??! What am I missing? Didn't some horrible Finish band win last year or something? We need to nuke us from orbit… "the accusations are such nonsense that I have found it difficult to treat them with the contempt that they deserve." - Clarke
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Gaggle: It won the competition to be Ireland's entry. The Eurovision itself hasn't taken place yet... |
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It winning something, anything, is beyond words. It's actually worse than some of the recent winners of the Danish national music whateverthecrap. I would not have believed that had I not seen the youtube with mine own eyes. "the accusations are such nonsense that I have found it difficult to treat them with the contempt that they deserve." - Clarke
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Eurovision rankings haven't been about quality for years now. Any game where competence can be measured by the amount of clicks per minute is not a strategy game.
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The great thing about the Eurovision song festival are the accusations of political voting, coming from countries who lose. As if there's a great Eastern European conspiracy to conquer Europe by voting for crap songs. "It's called treaty mode. It's there for people who want to enforce that kind of play. In other words, it's there for the Dutch."
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There's absolutely no point at all to this crapfest. It's as pointless as wrestling. What does it prove about the winning country? Nada. It's like "Our country is better because this casting winner knows how to sing!". Ridiculous! And most of the time, participating groups are totally unknown in their own country. "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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Kitsch needs no point. It is now self-sustaining. |
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Unlike this thread. "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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I'll prod it back to life once I can make a few observations about the sound in Oblivion. But I'm going to a 3pm-1am ULTRAGIG in a wee while, and looking at cars tomorrow, so it'll have to wait. Gig linked from my last.fm, if anyone gives a shit. Mogwai ftw. |
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More details on the looking at cars tomorrow, please. "Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
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#89 by TreeFrog I'll prod it back to life once I can make a few observations about the sound in Oblivion. Sound is quite possibly one of the worst aspects of Oblivion. Extremely generic background muzak and lackluster sound effects for weapons/spells (not to mention the ever-repeating enemy NPC responses..ugh). And the persuasion minigame. And the guards. And... fweh. #10 - Why not both come out of a window?
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