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February 20th 2008, 21:15 CET by jjohnsen

C'mon, we haven't given up on Planetcrap Photography, have we?

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#88 by yotsuya
2008-02-25 00:53:06
Wow- they let you take laptops into movie theatres, where you can type as you watch the film you have spent your hard earned Euros to see? That's cool.
#89 by BobJustBob
2008-02-25 01:01:28
I got so little enjoyment out of watching Tommy Lee Jones' character deal with all his fears of growing old that I either had to turn off the movie or start writing a post here


Did you ever relate that to the title and figure out that it was kind of the point of the whole film?

"I don't like story in games." - Soren Johnson
#90 by Ergo
2008-02-25 02:19:48
I'm sure he didn't. He isn't all that bright, you know.

Invention is the Green Goblin of Necessary Lemonade.

--Flowers
#91 by gaggle
2008-02-25 02:40:13
#88 by yotsuya
Wow- they let you take laptops into movie theatres…

If we ever really want to have this argument you can assume my point boils down to something equivalent to Valve's Steam. Until that's possible…


#89 by BobJustBob
Did you ever relate that to the title and figure out that it was kind of the point of the whole film?

Yes, and it was made clear all the way throughout. As I said: I liked the point the movie was making (and the way it was making it), except the confused ending. If the movie had been much more relaxed throughout it might've been a better fit, but it wasn't, it was an intense movie, and the ending veered too far into nonsensical ramblings for my liking.

I'm not dissing the ending because I didn't understand it (which Ergo seems to think requires effort, apparently), I'm dissing it because the point it was making was already hinted at, and the way it was presented was, frankly, boring.

"It's a mystery!  You love those!  Where are you going?" - Hugin
#92 by lwf
2008-02-25 02:44:54
So tell us what that point is, if you have grasped it so thoroughly.

My name? Jones... Enema Bag Jones. Wii.
#93 by gaggle
2008-02-25 02:47:07
I wonder if we got the same impression from the movie. It seems like a reasonably analyzable movie. The sense of death incarnate emanating from from Evil Dude was wonderful. And that Lee Jones and Main Dude McTexanman* were basically the same guy, except one flees and the other fights.

Not quite sure what to make of Woody Harrelson's character though…




* I could IMDB the names obviously, but I'm feeling a tad lazy.

"It's a mystery!  You love those!  Where are you going?" - Hugin
#94 by gaggle
2008-02-25 02:51:49
#92 by lwf
So tell us what that point is, if you have grasped it so thoroughly.

Oh I sounded like that huh? I meant specifically that the point of the ending was how Lee Jones is tired, and he fears what he's done with his life when he dies. I like it. But I didn't like the delivery. But I didn't mean to say what you had to take from the movie overall, it's layered enough that each of us probably have our own sentiments on that.

"It's a mystery!  You love those!  Where are you going?" - Hugin
#95 by OwenButler
2008-02-25 03:05:40
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
#91 by gaggle

If we ever really want to have this argument you can assume my point boils down to something equivalent to Valve's Steam. Until that's possible…

So your point is that you want a moon pony?  Grade A bullshit.  Assume the delivery mechanism changed to something like Valve's Steam; Spineless blametards like you would still take what you want and justify it using any external excuse that is handy.

#96 by FoRmaT
2008-02-25 03:07:25
Did anyone place OSCAR bets? That Afro-American red carpet host would look nice on my carpet too.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#97 by lwf
2008-02-25 03:18:13
The point of the ending, to me, was not how the Sheriff is tired or fears what he's done with his life. He describes a dream wherein he is traveling with his father, and in the dream feels secure in the knowledge that his father knows what to do, what is right, will take care of things, etc. Then he wakes up. Security is an illusion, he realises that there is no father figure riding ahead to start a fire and make camp. There is no assurance of safety. That is the dream. And earlier he remarks that he is, in a way, an older man than his father lived to be, and how he always thought that somehow he would become as much a man as his father seemed to be. And what he realises is that his father never was that man, he was just taking life as it comes, too.

As for why he retires, it is for the same reason that the wisest among us never argue with you. It's not because they are afraid to, it's because that's point to trying to understand that which defies explanation, logic, and reason itself?

My name? Jones... Enema Bag Jones. Wii.
#98 by gaggle
2008-02-25 03:25:22
#95 by OwenButler
So your point is that you want a moon pony?  Grade A bullshit.  Assume the delivery mechanism changed to something like Valve's Steam; Spineless blametards like you would still take what you want and justify it using any external excuse that is handy.

We really are going into this discussion huh?

First off, you're wrong. Simple as that. I didn't pick the Steam example for nothing, apart from that one recent exception I stopped warezing games after I started with Steam. Same with music and iTunes… well sort of* anyway.

And movies? I can't rent them easily (we have no Netflix here) nor can I download them legally in anything resembling high quality, so my action is, as it's been previously, to wait for something more practical. Meanwhile I buy the dvd's I really like, and hit the cinemas when possible, but they'd get far more sale from me if they'd offer a legal version of Piratebay.

In short: Grow up please, stop letting your own damn prejudice cloud your reading comprehension.



* Long story short iTunes is hardly ideal. Maybe Amazon's music store will be better.

"It's a mystery!  You love those!  Where are you going?" - Hugin
#99 by gaggle
2008-02-25 03:40:00
Oh, right, Amazon music store only available to US customers for now. Their loss, unfortunately.


#97 by lwf
The point of the ending, to me…

Okay, sounds like you got something a little different from the dreams than me, that's cool. And we can probably agree it was a good movie. I kinda wish I hadn't seen the trailer though, seeing that cattle-device in use like that would've had a far bigger impact on me far if I hadn't seen it used in the trailer.

On the other hand the trailer made me want to see the movie, so I'm not sure what to make of that :).

"It's a mystery!  You love those!  Where are you going?" - Hugin
#100 by BobJustBob
2008-02-25 03:42:22
Did you really just tell him to grow up after using juvenile bullshit to justify your illegal acts?

"I don't like story in games." - Soren Johnson
#101 by gaggle
2008-02-25 04:12:46
…it's like talking to a doorknob…

Bob go reread #98 if you want, but I don't suppose you're all that interested in my point anyway. Just please don't point out that what I'm doing is illegal no matter how much I justify it, I specifically don't ever claim otherwise.

"It's a mystery!  You love those!  Where are you going?" - Hugin
#102 by gaggle
2008-02-25 04:16:59
Re-rereading my posts this evening I can see how I come off just a tad aggressive, heh. Hey at least I'm getting responses and attention, I was feeling slightly bored and couldn't sleep…

Think I'll go cool off a bit though, so my next posts can be kinder and gentler.

"It's a mystery!  You love those!  Where are you going?" - Hugin
#103 by BobJustBob
2008-02-25 05:00:41
So you did it for the attention? See people, this is trolling.

And no, I'm not very interested in your point. But just for clarity's sake, what exactly is it? That until corporations devise a system that caters to your every need, you're morally justified in taking their shit for free?

"I don't like story in games." - Soren Johnson
#104 by gaggle
2008-02-25 06:12:58
Yeah, something like that. The important caveat being, of course, that my needs aren't actually wacky crazy. Digital download works, but the movie industry hasn't really caught up to that yet. It's starting though, we'll see a good solution soon enough.

"It's a mystery!  You love those!  Where are you going?" - Hugin
#105 by Matt Perkins
2008-02-25 17:14:26
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
See, I took the ending of that movie completely differently, but I too loved it. I like movies like that, that different people get different things out of them. Usually means it's a good one when the deeper meaning is open to interpretation.

"Thug means never having to say you're sorry." - UTurn
#106 by jjohnsen
2008-02-25 18:36:35
http://www.johnsenclan.com
If a friend suggests you go with him to see Vantage Point, his friendship is suspect.  Horrible acting, horrible dialogue (especially the second half), horrible editing, and Forest Whitaker has now gone from my "must see" list to shitty actor that needs to retire.  He was the worst.

#107 by gaggle
2008-02-25 18:44:27
He wasn't on that list already? :)

"It's a mystery!  You love those!  Where are you going?" - Hugin
#108 by yotsuya
2008-02-25 18:47:19
Anyone see Be Kind Rewind? I find the premise interesting.
#109 by gaggle
2008-02-25 19:15:15
Jack Black is actively keeping me away. It's bound to be yet another wacky flimsy excuse for a movie. I was throwing up as I saw parts of that Mexican wrestling flic he was in.

"It's a mystery!  You love those!  Where are you going?" - Hugin
#110 by yotsuya
2008-02-25 19:24:51
Yeah, but what did you expect?
#111 by gaggle
2008-02-25 19:50:36
Pretty much what I got. As such: Not waiting with bated breath for Be Kind Rewind.

"It's a mystery!  You love those!  Where are you going?" - Hugin
#112 by yotsuya
2008-02-25 19:59:08
Hmmmm...... "Wow, I expect this movie to be so bad it's going to make me vomit. I better download it and watch it NOW!"
#113 by FoRmaT
2008-02-25 20:09:20
Jack Black is awesome. Granted, he's the same character in every movie he's in, but so are Robert De Niro and Al Pacino.

Flame away!

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#114 by anaqer
2008-02-25 20:13:53
Nacho Libre was terrible. I liked him in High Fidelity, though...

#10 - Why not both come out of a window?
#115 by FoRmaT
2008-02-25 20:15:47
Watch "School of Rock". The guy is full of passion. And crazy.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#116 by yotsuya
2008-02-25 20:17:28
I'm not a Jack Black fan per se, but I did like him in School of Rock.
#117 by Dumdeedum
2008-02-25 20:37:04
http://www.dumdeedum.com
The best thing Jack Black ever did was get his arm blown off in The Jackal, he's annoyed me in everything else.  And School Of Rock sucked, it's one of those uplifting movies for 8-14 year olds that are just saccharine and patronising for grown-ups.

#118 by FoRmaT
2008-02-25 20:42:26
School of Rock is great. You go back to reading Nietzsche or watching Lawrence of Arabia.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#119 by Jamie
2008-02-25 20:43:18
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
Nacho Libre was aso awful I couldn't even stand having it play in the background while I did other stuff.

#120 by FoRmaT
2008-02-25 20:49:12
I haven't seen it.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#121 by Ds_
2008-02-25 20:49:13
roger.boal@gmail.com
Ah, but it has Mos Def in it, who is turning out to be a surprisingly talented actor.
#122 by yotsuya
2008-02-25 20:54:32
School of Rock is great. You go back to ... watching Lawrence of Arabia.

You can like both, you know.
#123 by jjohnsen
2008-02-25 20:54:41
http://www.johnsenclan.com
He was horrible in that Bruce Willis cop movie.  Ten Blocks or something.

#124 by m0nty
2008-02-25 20:56:22
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Ds_ (#121):
Ah, but it has Mos Def in it, who is turning out to be a surprisingly talented actor.

Mm hmm.
#125 by FoRmaT
2008-02-25 21:00:41
You can like both, you know.

That was my point.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#126 by yotsuya
2008-02-25 21:02:45
You sounded like you were using Lawrence of Arabia as a negative.

But anyway, I take it no on saw Be Kind Rewind?
#127 by Shadarr
2008-02-25 21:05:58
shadarr@gmail.com http://digital-luddite.com
I can't think of anything I've liked Jack Black in.  Except that Spiderman spoof with Sarah Michelle Geller for the MTV awards.

Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
#128 by anaqer
2008-02-25 21:08:52
School of Rock wasn't particularly good, either. In fact, I'd say it was pretty much one of the epitomes of schlock. I mean, child actors, and so many of them, and in so prominent roles...?! Jesus fucking Christ!

#10 - Why not both come out of a window?
#129 by anaqer
2008-02-25 21:10:18
#127 by Shadarr
Except that Spiderman spoof with Sarah Michelle Geller for the MTV awards.

Actually, I seem to remember a LotR spoof.

#10 - Why not both come out of a window?
#130 by FoRmaT
2008-02-25 21:13:30
anager, that was the whole point of the movie; that sometimes, children can rock too. Who cares if it's schlock as long as it is entertaining. I've seen much worse films that took themselves way more serious than this one did.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#131 by Squeaky
2008-02-25 21:14:00
#124 by m0nty

Ds_ (#121):

Ah, but it has Mos Def in it, who is turning out to be a surprisingly talented actor.

Mm hmm.

hehe. Awesome.

#132 by Shadarr
2008-02-25 21:47:28
shadarr@gmail.com http://digital-luddite.com
anager, that was the whole point of the movie; that sometimes, children can rock too. Who cares if it's schlock as long as it is entertaining. I've seen much worse films that took themselves way more serious than this one did.

So you're trying to become PC's guy with horrible taste in movies rather than PC's racist?  Unbeknownst to you, you can be both.

Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
#133 by FoRmaT
2008-02-25 21:52:45
School of Rock was not a horrible movie, so I am rubber, Mr. Glue.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#134 by Shadarr
2008-02-25 21:54:21
shadarr@gmail.com http://digital-luddite.com
Nazi rubber.

Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
#135 by FoRmaT
2008-02-25 21:58:22
At least I don't have a turkey stuck to my forehead.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#136 by Shadarr
2008-02-25 21:59:30
shadarr@gmail.com http://digital-luddite.com
Your icon is a turd and you're talking icon smack?  Really?

Witnesses in the house heard Jones say "why did you pee on me Pooh Bear?" A few moments later, the witness heard the son say "Mama you done stabbed me."
#137 by yotsuya
2008-02-25 21:59:33
I think that putdown comes straight from the movie.
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