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BIOSHOCK UP THE ASS!
August 21st 2007, 18:41 CEST by Dumdeedum

Quoth Wikipedia:
BioShock is an action-adventure, survival horror first-person shooter video game by 2K Boston/2K Australia (previously Irrational Games.)[5]

So now you know.  There's lots of other details, plot and stuff, but mostly we're here because it's one of our "event games", a game everyone buys and then we play it together and compare notes and spoil the plot for each other and so on.  There's also a fair chance that either Bob, Gaggle or Hugin will decide they hate it and everyone else will insult them for it.
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#120 by Shadarr
2007-08-22 22:51:21
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
That's a flow-chart, you idiot.

I was gonna say, I'm as big a table supporter as this stupid war has, but that ain't no fucking table.  Jetski is way better than flowchart.  FFS.
#121 by assemblerer
2007-08-22 23:15:15
http://uglycode.com
Oh Snap! So tables aren't flowcharts? I'm a stupid Mick.

#122 by anaqer
2007-08-22 23:38:16
Fuck, I forgot which side of the debate I was on... I guess I must have been fluctuating between table (ie. something to put glasses on) and jetski (stuff that goes not at godspeed, but FUCKING FAST) all the time after all. Quick, somebody tell me where the bitches at!

'We run a pretty tight ship around here.' 'With a pool table?' 'It's a gaming ship.'
#123 by Squeaky
2007-08-22 23:59:32
LET IT FUCKING DIE ALREADY JESUS FUCK

#124 by anaqer
2007-08-23 00:30:36
NEVAR

'We run a pretty tight ship around here.' 'With a pool table?' 'It's a gaming ship.'
#125 by Dingle
2007-08-23 01:01:07
mylifesazoo@gmail.com
When Huxley died, it was good riddance to bad trash. Any Tom, Dick or Harry can criticize society, religion and politics. He just had more time to think about it. He used only because when the masculine fist of reality punched him in the teeth, he didn't even have the courage to get back up and fight. Standing for something - be it politics, religion, whatever is in pet peeve case - would have required him to turn around and try to swim upstream. But such a feat requires hard work and training, so he copped out and swam right toward the waterfall. What a waste of life.
#126 by Gabe
2007-08-23 01:52:05
http://www.dartpublishing.com
More Bioshock please.
#127 by Squeaky
2007-08-23 02:31:02
Bioshock is a very good game.

#128 by Shadarr
2007-08-23 03:12:17
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Is it first person?
#129 by Mank
2007-08-23 05:48:52
http://www.planetquake.com/teamreaction
Sorry about the delay in responding, but I was referring to the position you took in the other thread regarding Steam versus the retailers and the potential illegality/anti-trust implications therein.


Well, I'm not sure what you mean because I was -not- the one who started in with the "behind the scenes pressuring" talk. That was Bob and a couple of other people. I even responded in the other thread to something that Bob mentioned regarding a Qt3 post, where I recognized the contractual link between developer and publisher. The arguments offered by others were, in effect, that some dubious collusion is going on behind the scenes of some retailers, who are offering the game for a cheaper price than Steam in some effort to prevent Steam from gaining ground in marketshare where DD is concerned. Or at least that's how I interpreted what Bob and others were saying.

Digital distribution is supposed to be cheaper for the consumer, while at the same time making more money for the developer and publisher due to the much touted reasoning of reduced overhead where boxing, CD/DVD production, and lack of retail advertising and inventory charges are concerned. But we're not seeing this to be true right now. If it's a matter of Steam entering into a contract with a publisher to offer a game at a certain price, then that's one thing. But if it's a matter of retailers working in collusion to pressure a publisher into making that contract with Steam in an effort to stymie DD marketshare, then yes, I see that as a problem.

#130 by LPMiller
2007-08-23 06:15:42
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
I don't recall anyone saying it was SUPPOSED to be cheaper. I recall the more money for the developer thing. But promising cheaper? HAHHAHAHA.

Boxing and DVD master is chump change (seriously, I spent an eye opening week contracting at Zomax, who handled the process for a ton of games and software packages), and they have to spend the money on advertising anyway with digital distribution. Hell, more, if they are DD only. The only real advantage to the consumer is they get to stay home. The major advantage for the dev is they don't need no stinking pub. But it's not all hearts and flowers for either side, and I don't think anyone but dreamers thought it would be.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#131 by LPMiller
2007-08-23 06:16:26
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
Bioshock IS cool, and I do heart it. But it ain't no 10 out of 10.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#132 by Dumdeedum
2007-08-23 06:58:35
http://www.dumdeedum.com
Eurogamer disagrees with you.

Of course that is possibly the most breathlessly adoring review I've ever read so one does wonder about how accurate it is.  You could replace it with a youtube of Kristan Reed masturbating over a copy of Bioshock and then crying for 20 minutes and no nuance would be lost.

MP3 Of The Week: The Heavy - Easier.mp3 (?)
#133 by lwf
2007-08-23 07:22:44
I'm pretty sure Gaggle wrote that review.

5 reasons to hate minorities: Poor, Lazy, Smell bad, Wrong religion, and the rich ones take all the women. Wii.
#134 by Squeaky
2007-08-23 08:39:49
Bioshock is a good game, and I'm enjoying it very much. But the only thing that really makes it GOTY material is the fact that there isn't much in the way of contenders.

#135 by Mister Nutty
2007-08-23 09:21:59
...until Halo 3 drops!

YHBT. YHL. HAND
#136 by bw
2007-08-23 10:26:11
enblightened@gmail.com
Hullo. Long time lurker here (Andy, Bailey, neuter space bears blah blah) Just stumbled upon this thread on another forum and it reminded me of the dogpile days of yore on PC.

I miss the vitality.

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=10469.0
#137 by Mister Nutty
2007-08-23 12:19:48
Fuck off, n00b.

YHBT. YHL. HAND
#138 by m0nty
2007-08-23 12:39:30
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Grunk would barely qualify for consideration for TOTY if he pulled that shit here.
#139 by assemblerer
2007-08-23 12:42:29
http://uglycode.com
Or get an avatar and tough skin.

On-topic: What experts say about BioShock.

#140 by Gunp01nt
2007-08-23 13:13:54
supersimon33@hotmail.com
People are going goo-goo ga-ga over this. It's a really neat thing and I'm going to read those papers and perhaps do an implemenation myself... but am I the only one seeing a very very limited usage for this?
I hear a lot of "but you could have stretching backgrounds on websites!" as if this way is so much better than just using a form of texture mapping or something. Browsers support neither at the moment, so it's all moot anyway.

"We are taking the dinosaurs back from the evolutionists!"
#141 by BobJustBob
2007-08-23 13:32:12
Well, I'm not sure what you mean because I was -not- the one who started in with the "behind the scenes pressuring" talk. That was Bob and a couple of other people. I even responded in the other thread to something that Bob mentioned regarding a Qt3 post, where I recognized the contractual link between developer and publisher. The arguments offered by others were, in effect, that some dubious collusion is going on behind the scenes of some retailers, who are offering the game for a cheaper price than Steam in some effort to prevent Steam from gaining ground in marketshare where DD is concerned. Or at least that's how I interpreted what Bob and others were saying.


Wow, you are completely nuts.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#142 by m0nty
2007-08-23 13:32:53
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
That is some pretty hot shit, Gp. Real estate fuckos will love it, you'll never be able to trust a pic of a home interior again. I bet G-Man and his lawyer buddies are slobbering over the potential to falsify photo evidence. As for web-only applications, not so much.
#143 by Gunp01nt
2007-08-23 14:20:13
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Well, people are saying it'll revolutionize photo editing and make it so you won't have to look for pictures with the right aspect ratio etc. but I'm not really seeing that. Anything beyond landscapes and simple patterns is going to look weird when scaled with this method.

"We are taking the dinosaurs back from the evolutionists!"
#144 by mgns
2007-08-23 15:06:46
What with all the Bioshock of late, someone might have missed the soldier promo from TF2. It's funny.

but watching changes every fact
and your curves are best described
by mathematical approximation anyway
so I use fingertips to trace our play
#145 by BobJustBob
2007-08-23 15:19:17
You can watch the HD version through Steam. Don't sell it short, mgns, it's DAMN funny.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#146 by mgns
2007-08-23 15:23:28
Yeah, I know. I've watched it three times over, and I still laugh out loud at the ending. But again, the Bioshock extravaganza seems to have people all superlatived up, and I'm sick of it.

but watching changes every fact
and your curves are best described
by mathematical approximation anyway
so I use fingertips to trace our play
#147 by Ashiran
2007-08-23 15:29:24
Does Bioshock offer something gameplay wise that hasn't been done before?

Any game where competence can be measured by the amount of clicks per minute is not a strategy game.
#148 by Gunp01nt
2007-08-23 15:33:25
supersimon33@hotmail.com
It's basically just Pong.

"We are taking the dinosaurs back from the evolutionists!"
#149 by CheesyPoof
2007-08-23 15:36:35
Hrm. I thought the solider movie was amusing, but I wouldn't call it funny. I didn't laugh. I am looking forward to TF2. It'll take the sting away of no GTA this fall. I'll pre-load that one one Steam.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#150 by BobJustBob
2007-08-23 15:38:10
I thought the solider movie was amusing, but I wouldn't call it funny.


I thought your post was idiotic, but I wouldn't call it moronic.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#151 by CheesyPoof
2007-08-23 15:39:03
Bob, we all know your taste is broken, so that's OK.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#152 by Matt Perkins
2007-08-23 15:40:24
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
You know, I saw chris and gabe talking about that Soldier video yesterday and one of them made a good point (I forget which)... They sure are putting a LOT of work into characterization of these guys for a multiplayer game... It's something you'll never see in game.

My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in

"I'm not sure it's possible to make a "subtle" jab at Matt's writing ability." - Ergo
#153 by BobJustBob
2007-08-23 15:45:54
Bob, we all know your taste is broken, so that's OK.


What does taste have to do with it? You used two synonyms and said one of them applied and the other didn't. It was stupid.

Also, your taste sucks.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#154 by assemblerer
2007-08-23 15:50:57
http://uglycode.com
Also, you're no linguist.

#155 by assemblerer
2007-08-23 15:51:16
http://uglycode.com
Bob.

#156 by Gabe
2007-08-23 16:03:04
http://www.dartpublishing.com
Nuance is lost on Bob.
#157 by CheesyPoof
2007-08-23 16:04:54
I should have known better.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#158 by BobJustBob
2007-08-23 16:09:41
If you wanted to distinguish between something that was enjoyable and something that was funny, you should have done so. Saying it was funny but not funny is just dumb.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#159 by CheesyPoof
2007-08-23 16:14:11
Funny means I laughed. I did not laugh. It was amusing to watch, but not funny. Why is this so difficult for you to understand? Do you live in a binary world, where everything is either on or off? No analog controllers in Bobzarro land?

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#160 by Ray
2007-08-23 16:14:13
ray@frenden.com http://frenden.com
Christ. It's amazing any of you feed yourselves.

#161 by CheesyPoof
2007-08-23 16:15:34
Hey, Px, I got a question for you. Where can a guy get a bucket of fonts without having to pay for them?

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#162 by BobJustBob
2007-08-23 16:18:00
Funny does not mean you laughed. Saying you laughed means you laughed. Funny just means you found it amusing.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#163 by mgns
2007-08-23 16:23:06
I should never have linked that. One of them is Tommy McUnhumour, the other is James van der Argumentative...

but watching changes every fact
and your curves are best described
by mathematical approximation anyway
so I use fingertips to trace our play
#164 by CheesyPoof
2007-08-23 16:24:29
Funny: 1) Funny Ha-ha. 2) Funny Strange.

Bob: LOSE!

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#165 by BobJustBob
2007-08-23 16:26:30
I'm not the one who doesn't understand the English language. Although I guess I still have to watch you misuse it, so LOSE indeed.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#166 by Ray
2007-08-23 16:26:38
ray@frenden.com http://frenden.com
Demonoid. If you're meaning stealing (which I don't advocate - fonts are hard to make and those guys deserve the dough). Dafont, otherwise.

#167 by Matt Perkins
2007-08-23 16:26:55
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Funny that you guys are continuing this asinine argument...

My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in

"I'm not sure it's possible to make a "subtle" jab at Matt's writing ability." - Ergo
#168 by CheesyPoof
2007-08-23 16:29:54
Px, Dafont looks like it has some free ones. Cool, thanks.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#169 by Ray
2007-08-23 16:31:37
ray@frenden.com http://frenden.com
They don't have GOBS of free fonts, but their stock seems to be better than a lot of free font sites.

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