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August 15th 2007, 21:26 CEST by assemblerer

Let's discuss which Indiana Jones movie is the best (for the seventy-second time), which music you hate (along with seldom TOP N lists), which books made you nerdier and which carbohydrates taste better.

Also, this would be the place to moan about the lack of PCwrite.
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#70 by anaqer
2007-08-16 16:39:57
Hey, watch who you're calling a Hungarian.

'We run a pretty tight ship around here.' 'With a pool table?' 'It's a gaming ship.'
#71 by mgns
2007-08-16 16:44:31
Hungarostanivak, Czechocroatvian... What's the difference?

but watching changes every fact
and your curves are best described
by mathematical approximation anyway
so I use fingertips to trace our play
#72 by deadlock
2007-08-16 17:02:00
http://www.deadlocked.org/
#68 by eggbert

It's not morals, it's economics. if it costs you $0.99 for a song and $12 for an album, why not buy the song if that's what you're looking for?

I think we're talking different things here. Generally if there is a random song I like, I'll download the song, and that will be that. If I listen to other tracks off that album or any album, and discover that I like those songs, after a certain critical mass I'll end up buying the CD. So if I'm buying the album, it's because I want the album, not just some of the songs. If I'm downloading the songs, it's because I just want the song. Adding $.99 for each of those stray songs isn't going to be cheaper...maybe more legal and in the right, but not cheaper.

ITMS has added a feature recently whereby you can purchase the remainder of an album at a reduced price if you've already bought one or two songs off of it.

I'm in the camp that says that I nick far less music now than before I started using iTunes. I actually can't remember the last time I *did* just download instead of going through ITMS. I'd do the same with movies if there was a convenient place to get them; I'd actually like the option of just renting movies because I rarely rewatch anything unless I absolutely *love* it. Being able to spend maybe €2 on a movie that I have a week to watch before it self-destructs would suit me fine.

#73 by Ergo
2007-08-16 17:13:12
#31 by lwf

I don't think itunes has music in my preferred bitrate yet.

Exactly. I still buy the CDs and rip them at the bitrate I want. I've never purchased anything from iTubes.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#74 by Ergo
2007-08-16 17:13:25
Or iTunes.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#75 by Hieronymus
2007-08-16 17:28:17
I've gone back to buying physical CDs due to their permanance and portability.  I can play regular MP3s everywhere, but finding what I want is a pain.  DRM tracks are just not portable enough.  In addition, given the distaster which is plays-for-sure, I am worried that any purchased tracks will suddenly become obsolete and unplayable.
#76 by assemblerer
2007-08-16 17:28:49
http://uglycode.com
You hurt my feelings, you asshole hungarian pissface, sir.

Hey! I'm a Slovak asshole pissface, miss!
Hungarostanivak, Czechocroatvian... What's the difference?

Gee, I wonder why I haven't missed you. Making up nation names isn't my favourite passtime. But well, I hope you're at least good at it. Go on, go on.

#77 by Jibble
2007-08-16 17:32:11
I thought iTunes was going to start offering higher bit rates or something. Guess the internet lied to me.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#78 by deadlock
2007-08-16 17:38:20
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Jibble:

It does but only for EMI-published music. iTunes Plus (which is what this service is called) uses a higher bitrate and doesn't include any DRM so you can put the tracks on any iPod or device that can play M4A tracks. It costs a little extra per song ($1.29) but I think albums cost the same as standard.

#79 by BobJustBob
2007-08-16 17:42:49
No MP3, no sale.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#80 by assemblerer
2007-08-16 17:45:12
http://uglycode.com
I think there was already a discussion about this... here? I remember that is sounded awesome and 30cents isn't really that much, but it turned out there were some strings attached, don't remember exactly what, but it was at least some kind of tracking information. (But that doesn't have to bother anyone except those stupid enough to share their bought music.)

#81 by gaggle
2007-08-16 17:48:26
I'm guessing the tracking you speak off could be the information written into the ID3 tags that you're the legal owner? It was made into an issue a while back but in reality it's a more-than-harmless feature.

"…a four-dimensional real vector space equipped with a nondegenerate, symmetric bilinear form."
#82 by assemblerer
2007-08-16 17:49:49
http://uglycode.com
Yes, if it's only that, I don't see problem with it, since I wouldn't share music I bought. But I remember it was something I didn't like, but don't remember... and don't really care much now. Like Bob said.

#83 by jjohnsen
2007-08-16 17:49:52
http://www.johnsenclan.com
They offer non-DRM music at $1.99 that is ripped at 256.  It's not all the music though, just from certain labels.

#84 by Hugin
2007-08-16 18:24:01
lmccain@nber.org
1.29  jj
#85 by Jibble
2007-08-16 18:25:01
2l2q hug

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#86 by hangedmanAG
2007-08-16 18:34:45
www.livejournal.com/users/hangedman_ag/
Put among those that will pirate random songs (I use Frostwire)  If I hear some song somewhere and it is somebody I don't know or some pop group, I steal it.

There is a pretty large range of artists that I will support and I will get their stuff from iTunes if it is available but there is alot of stuff on my lists that aren't available on iTunes.  Fortunately, I have a friend with a big record collection and a USB record player so he can rip from vinyl.

Still, there is alot of pirated stuff out there that you can't find on iTunes

My crummy little life
#87 by mgns
2007-08-16 20:39:45
Gee, I wonder why I haven't missed you. Making up nation names isn't my favourite passtime. But well, I hope you're at least good at it. Go on, go on.

Unclench. Please.

but watching changes every fact
and your curves are best described
by mathematical approximation anyway
so I use fingertips to trace our play
#88 by Jibble
2007-08-16 21:10:44
I hear Markos Moulitsas hates Hungarians.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#89 by CheesyPoof
2007-08-16 21:17:22
Can I say I hate Hungarian notation?

Probably their most famous export though.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#90 by BobJustBob
2007-08-16 21:21:12
I like Reverse Polish Notation.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#91 by assemblerer
2007-08-16 21:30:27
http://uglycode.com
I like new Microsoft's Live! search. I received visits on my personal (slovak) blog from phrases "fuck", "flexeril", "make money online" and "mitsubishi". 75% of them just don't appear anywhere on my blog. (No, not even in spam comments, which are akismeted away.

#92 by lwf
2007-08-16 21:43:14
Is it 256 Hugin? I thought it was 192.

5 reasons to hate minorities: Poor, Lazy, Smell bad, Wrong religion, and the rich ones take all the women. Wii.
#93 by Hieronymus
2007-08-16 22:08:15
Bob,
  You really do like everything that everybody else hates.
#94 by BobJustBob
2007-08-16 22:11:38
Pfft, everyone loves RPN.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#95 by Hugin
2007-08-16 22:37:22
lmccain@nber.org
256 lwf
#96 by lwf
2007-08-16 22:44:54
Well, 256 is certainly acceptable.

5 reasons to hate minorities: Poor, Lazy, Smell bad, Wrong religion, and the rich ones take all the women. Wii.
#97 by deadlock
2007-08-16 23:27:49
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Yeah, but it's only EMI's catalogue. That bit is important. Universal are being fucking gobshites over ITMS and they apparently have the largest catalogue.

#98 by anaqer
2007-08-16 23:33:11
#89 by CheesyPoof
Can I say I hate Hungarian notation?

Sure you can. Programming is all about lowercase and underscores.

'We run a pretty tight ship around here.' 'With a pool table?' 'It's a gaming ship.'
#99 by assemblerer
2007-08-16 23:41:02
http://uglycode.com
Many good things came from Hungary. ACE Mega Codec pack (RIP), Imperium Galactica, ElastoMania, one deformable teren car simulation (was it called "terep"? ... <google /> Holy cow! It's alive!) and more. They're good.

#100 by anaqer
2007-08-16 23:49:37
Imperium Galactica! Jesus, how hard we laughed at the original hungarian actors - "Na ide figyeljen, Johnson..." - priceless, just priceless.

'We run a pretty tight ship around here.' 'With a pool table?' 'It's a gaming ship.'
#101 by assemblerer
2007-08-16 23:56:45
http://uglycode.com
*blank stare, but glad that I brought up pleasant memories and secretly thinking about pretending to know what he's talking about*

#102 by mgns
2007-08-17 04:33:54
You need to work on your comebacks.

In other news, my vacation was more rain than not, so I spent many hours watching The Wire. I'm on s4e10 now. Great show. Did lose some momentum, but the first season was unbelievably good. Who was it around here who used to rave about that show?

but watching changes every fact
and your curves are best described
by mathematical approximation anyway
so I use fingertips to trace our play
#103 by BobJustBob
2007-08-17 04:37:36
Me!

And what momentum did it lose? Also, the first season is the worst.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#104 by lwf
2007-08-17 05:09:25
I remember McBain raving the most. The nice thing about raving is that it culls the herd, or least the afterparties do.

5 reasons to hate minorities: Poor, Lazy, Smell bad, Wrong religion, and the rich ones take all the women. Wii.
#105 by G-Man
2007-08-17 06:23:04
Too soon.
#106 by yotsuya
2007-08-17 07:01:50
At least I have faith that LittleWood will go out in a blaze of glory and not some pussified, "See you later!!" manner.

I watched Aliens, and I didn't even get a lousy t-shirt.
#107 by lwf
2007-08-17 07:06:33
I'm going to be the last to leave.

5 reasons to hate minorities: Poor, Lazy, Smell bad, Wrong religion, and the rich ones take all the women. Wii.
#108 by Dumdeedum
2007-08-17 08:20:44
http://www.dumdeedum.com
I'm about half-way through season four and I don't think it's noticibly losing momentum, but I do think the first season was the best so far.  It was more compact and efficient than the others.  In the first season there were many threads but for the most part they all intersected to serve the main storyline, in the later seasons the rope got a little more frayed.  Still good though.

Just watched Sunshine as well, pretty good film although I can't decide if it fell apart at the end or not, gonna have to ponder on it some.

MP3 Of The Week: should I just put this thing out of its misery?
#109 by G-Man
2007-08-17 10:25:11
You people are too fucking easy to please, and I expect the last season of The Wire to be the best one.
#110 by deadlock
2007-08-17 10:42:03
http://www.deadlocked.org/
#109 by G-Man
You people find it far easier than I to appreciate genuinely top-notch entertainment

Fixed.

Dum:

I don't think it fell apart per se; there was a noticeable shift in gear for some of the third act but the launch of the bomb and Capo's fall into the heart of the sun inside it was a gloriously beautiful sequence. Besides, what Danny Boyle movie would be complete without a skinny bloke going a bit mental at the end? Shallow Grave, Trainspotting, The Beach, 28 Days Later and now Sunshine. I guess it's one of his signatures. Also, Cillian Murphy is a fantastic actor; though I'm probably unique in thinking that his character was a bit of a prick, his turn in The Wind that Shakes the Barley clearly demonstrates this.

#111 by LPMiller
2007-08-17 13:25:25
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
I thought sunshine was ok.  It had a real 70's sci fi Silent running vibe to it in parts that I liked. Mostly the mellow bits. But even the exciting bits seemed kinda mellow. And I dunno that i think it was all that original, and it was fairly predictable. But it was ok.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#112 by Neale
2007-08-17 14:28:20
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
Sunshine was dull. And rubbish. Like a cross between Event Horizon and Armageddon/The Core that only takes the bad bits and uses them.

#113 by BobJustBob
2007-08-17 14:37:55
Stop comparing Sunshine to Event Horizon everyone! Event Horizon is one of the worst movies in history. Armageddon too, though that's a new comparison. For shame, Neale.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#114 by Neale
2007-08-17 14:40:28
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
Event Horizon was so much better than Sunshine in every conceivable way.

#115 by gaggle
2007-08-17 14:42:47
If you were expecting Armageddon it would be disappointing. It's not directed by Michael "That explosion needs more fuel!" Bay though, so thankfully it delivers on a whole different plane of existence.

"…a four-dimensional real vector space equipped with a nondegenerate, symmetric bilinear form."
#116 by deadlock
2007-08-17 14:45:32
http://www.deadlocked.org/
#111 by LPMiller

I thought sunshine was ok.  It had a real 70's sci fi Silent running vibe to it in parts that I liked. Mostly the mellow bits. But even the exciting bits seemed kinda mellow. And I dunno that i think it was all that original, and it was fairly predictable. But it was ok.

Again though, it was a genre piece; by definition it has to be predictable and unoriginal to a certain degree.

#117 by BobJustBob
2007-08-17 14:52:12
Event Horizon was so much better than Sunshine in every conceivable way.


I'll pray for you.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#118 by BobJustBob
2007-08-17 14:52:43
Next you'll be saying Equilibrium was better than Children of Men.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#119 by Gunp01nt
2007-08-17 15:12:08
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Everybody knows Equilibrium and Children of Men were both awesome.

"We are taking the dinosaurs back from the evolutionists!"
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