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August 15th 2007, 21:26 CEST by assemblerer

Let's discuss which Indiana Jones movie is the best (for the seventy-second time), which music you hate (along with seldom TOP N lists), which books made you nerdier and which carbohydrates taste better.

Also, this would be the place to moan about the lack of PCwrite.
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#29 by OwenButler
2007-08-16 01:33:34
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
#27 by LPMiller

I've heard pirates all around the place say this over and over.  I've never actually heard of anyone actually following through with it though.  It's always "some day" or "when the prices drop reasonably" or "when there is a subscription model" or "when the is a subscription model that has the indie rock I like to rock out to".

Then you can hear it now. I don't pirate music anymore, since iTunes does what I want for a price I'm willing to pay. Before itunes, yah. But not since.

Yeah, iTunes is pretty awesome.  I use beatport.com for some more electronic type stuff too.  To be clear, I was talking specifically to gaggles point that he would go back and buy the music he had pirated to that point.  I know plenty of people who use iTunes or a similar service.

#30 by Jibble
2007-08-16 01:50:59
Completely agree with the above. Since iTunes arrived on the scene, I haven't stolen any music.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#31 by lwf
2007-08-16 01:54:53
I don't think itunes has music in my preferred bitrate yet.

5 reasons to hate minorities: Poor, Lazy, Smell bad, Wrong religion, and the rich ones take all the women. Wii.
#32 by Hugin
2007-08-16 02:05:50
lmccain@nber.org
I use itunes a lot.  I also have a Rhapsody account.  But I do just get some stuff directly through sites I find at Hype Machine.
#33 by LPMiller
2007-08-16 02:56:49
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
I have in fact iTuned stuff I had previously pirated. Sometimes accidentally, sometimes on purpose.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#34 by bago
2007-08-16 04:18:31
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
I have an emusic accout, and use soulseek.

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.
#35 by yotsuya
2007-08-16 04:24:52
Score another for iTunes. It's got maybe 90% of the stuff I'm looking for. The stuff it doesn't is usually some filler song off an album I used to own that I liked.

As for books, I've been reading some of the BFI Film Classics books. These are some pretty good scholarly studies of some great films, although some of the authors are a bit too high-falutin'. I got the ones for Greed, Metropolis, and The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, and the one for Double Indemnity should be here tomorrow.

As for films, I saw the aforementioned Double Indemnity last week and loved it. This week, I'm going to try and watch Coppola's The Conversation.

I watched Aliens, and I didn't even get a lousy t-shirt.
#36 by eggbert
2007-08-16 05:01:22
yankeebabu@india.com http://devsays.blogspot.com
Well there must be something up with my computer and/or firewall then, if you all can still use SoulSeek. Even searching for things that should return tons of results like "white stripes" (before you start typing, remember, no one cares about your opinion on the White Stripes) I'm getting nothing; I just assumed they shut down the network.

Maybe you could just buy the music...you know, like a grown up.

Is this some fucked up analogy, or are you actually getting holier then thou? Because the 'thou' in this case isn't in the mood to do this conversation again. Personally I'm a steal the single tracks, buy the albums, guy. Honestly I don't care if that's morally consistent or not, it's what I do and I happen to not care enough to get all PHIL101 about it.
#37 by yotsuya
2007-08-16 05:16:48
Why steal the individual tracks when it's cheaper to buy them instead of the whole album?

I watched Aliens, and I didn't even get a lousy t-shirt.
#38 by eggbert
2007-08-16 05:25:07
yankeebabu@india.com http://devsays.blogspot.com
Honestly I don't care if that's morally consistent or not, it's what I do and I happen to not care enough to get all PHIL101 about it.
#39 by Caryn
2007-08-16 05:56:02
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
Regarding food, today on my lunch break I went down the road to the local farmer's market and came back with armloads of farm-fresh veggies: purple carrots, purple potatoes, sweet banana peppers, orange tomatoes, heads of lettuce of a variety I've never seen before, blueberries, peaches, and other stuff. So I took my leftover rice, dumped it in a pan with some olive oil, some white wine, and some chicken stock, then chopped up some purple carrots, an orange tomato, and a banana pepper along with some lemon basil I cut from my deck. Goddamn, it's tasty.

I've always disliked tomatoes immensely. I thought I'd take a chance on these orange ones, and man, am I glad. They're sweet and awesome. And peaches, too -- I used to hate peaches, but these are super juicy and full of flavor.

Farmer's markets rock. I think I'll hit the one in Redmond on Saturday and pick up a shitload of berries to preserve.

Current novel word count: 26,800 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
#40 by lwf
2007-08-16 06:01:01
Cool Caryn. Are you ever going to record more of yourself singing/playing bass? (This being also the music thread)

5 reasons to hate minorities: Poor, Lazy, Smell bad, Wrong religion, and the rich ones take all the women. Wii.
#41 by yotsuya
2007-08-16 06:25:32
Eggy-

It's not morals, it's economics. if it costs you $0.99 for a song and $12 for an album, why not buy the song if that's what you're looking for?

I watched Aliens, and I didn't even get a lousy t-shirt.
#42 by assemblerer
2007-08-16 09:21:31
http://uglycode.com
"153.11 cups of Instant Coffee + You = Death."
Funny.

#43 by m0nty
2007-08-16 10:21:57
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
"Gulp down 531.05 cans of Vanilla Coke and you're history."

I shall start now.
#44 by Gunp01nt
2007-08-16 10:42:55
supersimon33@hotmail.com

366.99 cans of Dr Pepper + You = Death.
You could drink 68.39 cans of Jolt Cola before croaking.


Holy shit.


Also, m0nty weighs about 342 pounds (156 kilos), assemblerer weighs about 128 pounds (58 kilos).

It was pretty fucking bad.
#45 by Mank
2007-08-16 11:46:10
http://www.planetquake.com/teamreaction
Anyone here indulge in DVD music?

I'm thinking very seriously about replacing my current collection of 2-channel stereo stuff(my favorites mostly) with DVD versions. Since getting my newest 6.1 home theater system, I've bought a few music DVD's and am amazed at how the listening experience changes in a multichannel environment. They're a tad bit more expensive than regular CD's, and by no means am I a diehard audiophile, but I'm really surprised that this hasnt taken off as the new mainstream way of listening to music at home.

#46 by assemblerer
2007-08-16 11:48:19
http://uglycode.com
Also, Gunp01nt likes to do simple math to uncover and publish very intimate information. I WILL SUE!

Jolt Cola sounds good. Stronger than coffee? I'm in. I hope it's importable to our Gotham City/country.

#47 by anaqer
2007-08-16 11:59:50
and by no means am I a diehard audiophile

Obviously. You wouldn't have bothered to go beyond stereo LPs otherwise.

'We run a pretty tight ship around here.' 'With a pool table?' 'It's a gaming ship.'
#48 by Mank
2007-08-16 12:25:43
http://www.planetquake.com/teamreaction
Obviously. You wouldn't have bothered to go beyond stereo LPs otherwise.


*shrug*

I may very well be going the audiophile route now that I've experienced listening to music this way. I just cant see continuing to buy 2-channel stuff(for home listening) after experiencing this format.

#49 by m0nty
2007-08-16 12:53:49
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
assemblerer (#46):
Also, Gunp01nt likes to get simple math horribly wrong.

Fixed.
#50 by Gunp01nt
2007-08-16 13:08:09
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Woops, you're right. You weigh approx. 265 pounds or 120 kilograms. I didn't mean to call you fat.

"We are taking the dinosaurs back from the evolutionists!"
#51 by LPMiller
2007-08-16 13:22:49
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
white stripes" (before you start typing, remember, no one cares about your opinion on the White Stripes)


white stripes is awesome, jack white is a genius, and you are crabby.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#52 by m0nty
2007-08-16 13:23:59
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Gunp01nt (#50):
Woops, you're right. You weigh approx. 265 pounds or 120 kilograms. I didn't mean to call you fat.

I think you just did. But at least I'm not morbidly obese.
#53 by assemblerer
2007-08-16 13:52:52
http://uglycode.com
I think you just did. But at least I'm not morbidly obese.

I'm glad I didn't have to say it! But alas, you're not the only one.

#54 by m0nty
2007-08-16 14:15:58
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Shirley Manson cannae take much more cap'n! She's gonna blow!
#55 by Gunp01nt
2007-08-16 14:22:16
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Who's morbidly obese?

"We are taking the dinosaurs back from the evolutionists!"
#56 by Jibble
2007-08-16 14:22:37
But at least I'm not morbidly obese.

Some day, m0nty. Some day.

Did anyone else notice that bago just made a clear, on-topic post? Fascinating.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#57 by BobJustBob
2007-08-16 14:27:58
One of these days I need to buy another scale and start Crapfat again. I haven't had a scale since I moved out of my old apartment in March.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#58 by m0nty
2007-08-16 14:30:00
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
At least when you're morbidly obese you get a monkey to play piano with you.
#59 by deadlock
2007-08-16 15:02:51
http://www.deadlocked.org/
#56 by Jibble

But at least I'm not morbidly obese.

Some day, m0nty. Some day.

Did anyone else notice that bago just made a clear, on-topic post? Fascinating.

He mis-spelled 'account' though.

#60 by Jibble
2007-08-16 15:58:42
One of these days I need to buy another scale and start Crapfat again.

Do you weigh so much that you need two scales?

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#61 by BobJustBob
2007-08-16 15:59:23
In the future I will limit my posts to one sentence.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#62 by BobJustBob
2007-08-16 15:59:34
You know, to keep your attention from wandering.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#63 by mgns
2007-08-16 16:06:50
I've been away for a while, did I miss anything?

but watching changes every fact
and your curves are best described
by mathematical approximation anyway
so I use fingertips to trace our play
#64 by assemblerer
2007-08-16 16:12:25
http://uglycode.com
Yeah, you've just totally missed Bob saying "In the future I will limit my posts to one sentence.".

How long have you been gone? Warren stopped posting, Chris doesn't participate here, just on our Flickr group, Joker and his alts are still the same.

#65 by Ashiran
2007-08-16 16:14:27
Did anyone else notice that bago just made a clear, on-topic post? Fascinating.

Is this some kind of trick to send people on a wild goose chase?

Any game where competence can be measured by the amount of clicks per minute is not a strategy game.
#66 by Matt Perkins
2007-08-16 16:16:32
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
I believe it refers to another thread entirely.

He's bagoing bago. Well played sir.

My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in

"I'm not sure it's possible to make a "subtle" jab at Matt's writing ability." - Ergo
#67 by deadlock
2007-08-16 16:22:14
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Nope, this thread. Right here in fact.

#68 by eggbert
2007-08-16 16:35:29
yankeebabu@india.com http://devsays.blogspot.com
It's not morals, it's economics. if it costs you $0.99 for a song and $12 for an album, why not buy the song if that's what you're looking for?

I think we're talking different things here. Generally if there is a random song I like, I'll download the song, and that will be that. If I listen to other tracks off that album or any album, and discover that I like those songs, after a certain critical mass I'll end up buying the CD. So if I'm buying the album, it's because I want the album, not just some of the songs. If I'm downloading the songs, it's because I just want the song. Adding $.99 for each of those stray songs isn't going to be cheaper...maybe more legal and in the right, but not cheaper.
#69 by mgns
2007-08-16 16:36:53
How long have you been gone?

I don't know, two weeks - you haven't noticed? You hurt my feelings, you asshole hungarian pissface, sir.

but watching changes every fact
and your curves are best described
by mathematical approximation anyway
so I use fingertips to trace our play
#70 by anaqer
2007-08-16 16:39:57
Hey, watch who you're calling a Hungarian.

'We run a pretty tight ship around here.' 'With a pool table?' 'It's a gaming ship.'
#71 by mgns
2007-08-16 16:44:31
Hungarostanivak, Czechocroatvian... What's the difference?

but watching changes every fact
and your curves are best described
by mathematical approximation anyway
so I use fingertips to trace our play
#72 by deadlock
2007-08-16 17:02:00
http://www.deadlocked.org/
#68 by eggbert

It's not morals, it's economics. if it costs you $0.99 for a song and $12 for an album, why not buy the song if that's what you're looking for?

I think we're talking different things here. Generally if there is a random song I like, I'll download the song, and that will be that. If I listen to other tracks off that album or any album, and discover that I like those songs, after a certain critical mass I'll end up buying the CD. So if I'm buying the album, it's because I want the album, not just some of the songs. If I'm downloading the songs, it's because I just want the song. Adding $.99 for each of those stray songs isn't going to be cheaper...maybe more legal and in the right, but not cheaper.

ITMS has added a feature recently whereby you can purchase the remainder of an album at a reduced price if you've already bought one or two songs off of it.

I'm in the camp that says that I nick far less music now than before I started using iTunes. I actually can't remember the last time I *did* just download instead of going through ITMS. I'd do the same with movies if there was a convenient place to get them; I'd actually like the option of just renting movies because I rarely rewatch anything unless I absolutely *love* it. Being able to spend maybe €2 on a movie that I have a week to watch before it self-destructs would suit me fine.

#73 by Ergo
2007-08-16 17:13:12
#31 by lwf

I don't think itunes has music in my preferred bitrate yet.

Exactly. I still buy the CDs and rip them at the bitrate I want. I've never purchased anything from iTubes.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#74 by Ergo
2007-08-16 17:13:25
Or iTunes.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#75 by Hieronymus
2007-08-16 17:28:17
I've gone back to buying physical CDs due to their permanance and portability.  I can play regular MP3s everywhere, but finding what I want is a pain.  DRM tracks are just not portable enough.  In addition, given the distaster which is plays-for-sure, I am worried that any purchased tracks will suddenly become obsolete and unplayable.
#76 by assemblerer
2007-08-16 17:28:49
http://uglycode.com
You hurt my feelings, you asshole hungarian pissface, sir.

Hey! I'm a Slovak asshole pissface, miss!
Hungarostanivak, Czechocroatvian... What's the difference?

Gee, I wonder why I haven't missed you. Making up nation names isn't my favourite passtime. But well, I hope you're at least good at it. Go on, go on.

#77 by Jibble
2007-08-16 17:32:11
I thought iTunes was going to start offering higher bit rates or something. Guess the internet lied to me.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#78 by deadlock
2007-08-16 17:38:20
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Jibble:

It does but only for EMI-published music. iTunes Plus (which is what this service is called) uses a higher bitrate and doesn't include any DRM so you can put the tracks on any iPod or device that can play M4A tracks. It costs a little extra per song ($1.29) but I think albums cost the same as standard.

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