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The Photography Thread
July 26th 2007, 19:59 CEST by Jamie So there's three purposes for this thread. First, a few crappers are talking about getting fancy new cameras or fancy new toys for fancy existing cameras. You may have questions or want to discuss options. It's only natural. Run with it. Let it out. Second, You can talk about photographic techniques, technical or artsy. How to get this effect or that effect. Third, everybody who's not interested in either of the above can share links to their Flickr (or whatever) photostream, their public photoalbums on blogs/websites, self portaits (hrmm...), or whatever other random photographic detritus you have lying around. Click! |
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If he commented on your photos, his girlfriend might get pregnant. "Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
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TOO LATE! "Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
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D'oh. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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I have signed up! |
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I've joined. Now the challenge will be to take pictures that don't suck. :( |
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#38 by Jamie So I entered a photo contest last night after going back and forth over which picture to enter. You guys tell me: Which of these pictures most makes you think about beautiful, healthy hair like you get from using JOHNSON'S Beautiful Hair Products like JOHNSON'S BABY SHAMPOO or JOHNSON'S DETANGLING SHAMPOO or JOHNSON'S EXTRA CONDITIONING SHAMPOO? This one or this one? The second one. #40 by Shadarr *jealous* Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP Johnsen Family
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DDoS! DDoS! Flickr will fall! |
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#43 by Shadarr So how do I add someone as a contact? I swear Flickr's interface was designed by my exact opposite. #53 by Jamie #43 by Shadarr So how do I add someone as a contact? I swear Flickr's interface was designed by my exact opposite. Click their name, then click "profile" then look for the "Add _____ as contact" link. Click that. Wow, that DOES sound convoluted when I write it out like that. Or you can hover over their avatar. It will give you a drop-down that lets you select add contact. Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP Johnsen Family
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Huh. I was waiting to be added and then clicked on the link to reciprocate. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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#66 by CheesyPoof jjohnsen, you're a dork, but I mean that in a good way (re: multiple shots of yourself blended into one). It, along with this one were for a photography contest with the theme of clone. It was the only thing I could think of. On my family blog I put up a photo every day, so I run out of ideas all the time. To keep myself motivated I do things like enter assignments that give you a theme each week or enter a contest with a specific theme. It keeps me from being lazy and taking pictures of stuff other than my kids. I actually have an idea for another one of those shots with my daughter that I'm trying to figure out. Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP Johnsen Family
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I did one of those too. They're fun and pretty easy. Just get a tripod, take several pictures using a timer or remote control, put the pics a photoshop file as different layers, then erase the appropriate parts of the top layers sot that the ones below show through. #66 by CheesyPoof OwenButler, we had a rocket ship like that near a playground us growing up. That's was cool, back before BigToys took over the playground. I looked at that picture this morning and didn't get the joke. Then 20 minutes later while doing something else I just suddenly got it and snickered. jamie, I think that you take the best shots here. I, and my wife, we just snap away, but you can see the thought you put into your shots. I've like all that I've seen. Thanks! Again, part of it is that I just take a ton of pics and only post my favorites, though. I've got tons of plain snapshots in my archives, too. |
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Allrighty, more linky link. Some of my favorite photoblogs. If found most of them on photoblogs.org, which is a stupendous destroyer of time. :photoschau Daily Dose of Imagery chromasia Random Panderings serial photographer Thinsite What The Heck Journal 2007 Picture a Day (or week) decoys like curves Thomas Hawk's Digital Connection I haven't really collected many Flickr photostreams, but I do love these two: Johnny Blood - Really sublime stuff from Wisconsin of all places Nichole Van - She does a lot of wedding and family portraits and environmental portraits. They're awesome. I really love her child photography stuff in particular. I only wish I could be that good. |
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I know parents hate to hear this, but endless streams of pictures of kids kind of suck. |
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So, for uploading pictures to flickr, what resolution should I use? When uploading stuff to my own server I generally just resize the files off of the camera by 25% (they are some obscene resolution / file size) with no crops whatsoever, which puts it at a nice 640x480 or there abouts. not that I have anything interesting to take pictures of, but I've got a tripod and I intend to use it! |
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Shadarr, I like the picture of the sitting seagull. It looks cold out, was it? No, that was only about a month ago. The gull is merely huddling for laziness. |
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I can upload some pics from a major backpacking trip last year. You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley
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#81 by Gabe I know parents hate to hear this, but endless streams of pictures of kids kind of suck. I take your point, but of the 30 pics currently in the Flickr group, 9 of them are of kids or have kids in them. 10 if you count Cheesy's picture of the two African kids who I assume are not his --AS FAR AS HE KNOWS. But here. My "no kids" set. Well, maybe one or two. But mostly none. |
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So, for uploading pictures to flickr, what resolution should I use? It's a free account, I don't resize shit. I figure flickr will re-size it to the max allowed anyway. I supposed you could resize to cut down on the upload time, but, meh. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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It does. Actually, it creates several different sizes, which you can access via the "All Sizes" icon above the pictures. I usually upload mine in 900x600'ish. Not sure what the max size is. |
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10 if you count Cheesy's picture of the two African kids who I assume are not his --AS FAR AS HE KNOWS. /me has shifty eyes <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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Assemblerer, what's EXIF data? Those shots are all scanned. |
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Jamie, that's a poor way to analyze it. If I were to just upload my 300 pictures from the latest vacation would that make it not kid oriented? LP's pics are mainly kids, you like to post pics of your kids, JJ likes to post pics of his kids. See what I'm saying? |
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Anyway, close to a third are of your own kids given the wide variety of the world seems like a huge percentage. |
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#89 by Shadarr Assemblerer, what's EXIF data? Those shots are all scanned. EXIF data is the data that is saved by a digital camera with each photo. On flickr you can access it by clicking more information to the right of your photo. For example, this is the EXIF data from the latest photo in my FLICKR stream. Camera: Fujifilm FinePix S7000 Exposure: 0.002 sec (1/420) Aperture: f/6.3 Focal Length: 13 mm ISO Speed: 160 Exposure Bias: 0/100 EV Flash: Flash did not fire Orientation: Horizontal (normal) X-Resolution: 72 dpi Y-Resolution: 72 dpi Software: QuickTime 7.1.6 Date and Time: 2007:07:24 22:11:15 Host Computer: Mac OS X 10.4.9 YCbCr Positioning: Centered Exposure Program: Normal Date and Time (Original): 2007:07:23 06:54:25 Date and Time (Digitized): 2007:07:23 06:54:25 Shutter Speed: 870/100 Brightness: 830/100 Maximum Lens Aperture: 300/100 Metering Mode: Pattern Color Space: sRGB Sensing Method: One-chip colour area sensor Compression: JPEG Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP Johnsen Family
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#81 by Gabe I know parents hate to hear this, but endless streams of pictures of kids kind of suck. I try to mix it up but my two kids are the easiest subjects when I'm in a hurry and just want to get some shots off. I try to do a good mix, but in reality my website is meant to keep my parents and in-laws up to date on their grandchildren, so they'd be disappointed if all I had were nature shots. Also somewhat PC and photo related - Chris has an interesting site, Faces of the City, where he's taking photos of random New Yorkers. He also has them on Flickr. Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP Johnsen Family
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#91 by Gabe Anyway, close to a third are of your own kids given the wide variety of the world seems like a huge percentage. And you accuse me of being a grumpy old fart. You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley
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Ergo, I don't think I've ever done that actually. |
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Also somewhat PC and photo related - Chris has an interesting site, Faces of the City, where he's taking photos of random New Yorkers. It would feel weird to me to point a camera at people I don't know and take their picture. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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I asked him about it, he says most of them don't even realize he's doing it. I guess in the future he is considering handing out cards to his subjects with the web address. |
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He's already ordered cards. |
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Jamie, that's a poor way to analyze it. If I were to just upload my 300 pictures from the latest vacation would that make it not kid oriented? LP's pics are mainly kids, you like to post pics of your kids, JJ likes to post pics of his kids. See what I'm saying? Don't look. Or upload something cool. I take pictures of my kids. I suppose I could take pictures of my toes or sit out there for hours waiting for the perfect light in hopes of capturing the essence of a rabbit nibbling on a blade of grass. I mean jeez, I uploaded 5 pictures I thought didn't suck, I didn't think I had to be worried about the subject matter. "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
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#95 by Gabe Ergo, I don't think I've ever done that actually. LIES. I think. You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley
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omg, did I offend you? You can upload whatever the fuck you want, I was just pointing out that perhaps people's kids are more interesting to them than they are to random people. Shocking, I know. |
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Thanks, gabe! |
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I don't mind the pictures of kids (though I don't necessarily disagree with Gabe's point), but one thing to consider is that this group/thread/whatever might give people the impetus they need to break out of their usual subjects, be it kids, pets, flowers, sunsets, whatever. jj and I take a assloads of pics of our kids because they're what's handy (and I use them in a weekly parenting entry on my blog) but we've also both made the effort to seek out additional subjects and types of shots as well. Or, you know, if you're not interested in that kind of exercise, fine. Post tons of pictures of your kids, your vacation, your garden, your pets, your video game collection, whatever. I think it adds some nice context to the PlanetCrap community whatever it is. |
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I haven't posted any pictures of my cats yet, but I will. You can count on that. |
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I'm sorry for injecting negative energy. I think this flickr group is a neat and fun idea. I had just noticed a trend towards kid shots and had an opinion. |
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I don't know if you're being penitent or sarcastic. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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Neither. |
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The penitent man is humble before... gabe? |
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yeah! of all the variety in the world, he chooses to put up a picture of himself on thanksgabe. The nerve of him! Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration. "I fart in THX." - Sgt_Hulka PAY ATTENTION, YA DUMB FUKKAN CACKSUKKAN IGNORANT MORANS. |
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#89 by Shadarr Assemblerer, what's EXIF data? Those shots are all scanned. Yeah, like Jamie said, it's an JPEG extension used by all digiatal cameras. It was just a lazy/stupid way to ask "what exposure time / aperture size did you take that with, and if it was taken by digital, what mode did you use?". I was curious especially because of color of those clouds. I was disappointed when I found out that all my 35mm photos were manually calibrated (RGB, CMY and HSL) or even photoshopped sometimes in photolab. Those bastards. Also, Kodak Gold film seemed to produce best colors from the brands I've tried (Fuji, Polaroid). Expect for the B&W Ilford. #86 by CheesyPoof So, for uploading pictures to flickr, what resolution should I use? It's a free account, I don't resize shit. I figure flickr will re-size it to the max allowed anyway. I supposed you could resize to cut down on the upload time, but, meh. Those bastards resized my 7MPix photos to 1024x768! But I still suspect they store it in original size. Pro account has probably fewer limitations. Free account is limited to 100MB upload per month, but you've figured it out already. Panoramio, on the other hand, offers 2GB storage and has much better "place it on map" features that Flickr and its lame Y! maps. Taking pictures of strangers on the street is weird, but I've been doing it since 16. Most people didn't notice it, even when I used rather loud SLR cameras like the one I posted on flickr. It's a drug, but I've stopped publishing those photos unless they're really interesting. |
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The penitent man is humble before... gabe? Oooh, sorry, wrong call on that one. When you try to pass the blades, you have to give a thumbs up while eating a sandwich. Maybe they can reattach those arms... Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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Yeah, like Jamie said, it's an JPEG extension used by all digiatal cameras. It was just a lazy/stupid way to ask "what exposure time / aperture size did you take that with, and if it was taken by digital, what mode did you use?". I was curious especially because of color of those clouds. I was disappointed when I found out that all my 35mm photos were manually calibrated (RGB, CMY and HSL) or even photoshopped sometimes in photolab. Those bastards. Also, Kodak Gold film seemed to produce best colors from the brands I've tried (Fuji, Polaroid). Expect for the B&W Ilford. Yeah, one of the things I'm looking forward to with digital is that nobody is going to try to "correct" my pictures. Pretty much all of the night photos I've ever taken ended up blown out in printing, making the black almost brown. I added what I remember about the pic to the comments. And I've always shot Kodak. Supposedly some people like Fuji better because it makes skintones warmer, but I like the Kodak look better. |
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I'd be interested in hearing about what you think of the transition from film to digital. I find I can spend quite a bit of time doing post processing in Photoshop. |
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Shadarr Yeah, one of the things I'm looking forward to with digital is that nobody is going to try to "correct" my pictures. Pretty much all of the night photos I've ever taken ended up blown out in printing, making the black almost brown. God yes. The number of times I purposefully took pictures in limited light and ended up with the shitflaps at the local chemist brightening them up to make the whole thing a horrible grainy wash of grey. - words and stuff -
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I've dreamt about 35mm scanner and ended up with digital camera many years later. A cheaper solution, new photos are unadulterated by strangers, but I'd still love to scan my old photos. I think some of them were really good. I've got stomachache when I remember what a pain it was to scan photos individually with old flatbed scanner which loved inclining to red, which had to be then painfully edited. Yeah, like I said, 35mm film scanner or shot in the face. |
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Speaking of EXIF data, it seems that at some point in my workflow it's getting stripped out of my files. None of them has it by the time I publish to the web. My workflow roughly looks like this: 1. Shoot in RAW 2. Import into Adobe Bridge 3. Open from Bridge to Adobe Camera RAW and work with it 4. Open from ACR to Photoshop and work with it further 5. Do "save for web/devices" and save as a .jpg 6. Upload to web My first suspicion was that step #5 is the culprit, but I can't seem to find any settings that would nuke the EXIF file. Any thoughts? |
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Adobe Photoshop is known to me as übersoftware with ünterconfiguration when it comes to saving. It just misses some important options. |
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#99 by LPMiller Jamie, that's a poor way to analyze it. If I were to just upload my 300 pictures from the latest vacation would that make it not kid oriented? LP's pics are mainly kids, you like to post pics of your kids, JJ likes to post pics of his kids. See what I'm saying? Don't look. Or upload something cool. I take pictures of my kids. I suppose I could take pictures of my toes or sit out there for hours waiting for the perfect light in hopes of capturing the essence of a rabbit nibbling on a blade of grass. I mean jeez, I uploaded 5 pictures I thought didn't suck, I didn't think I had to be worried about the subject matter. You don't. |
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