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The Photography Thread
July 26th 2007, 19:59 CEST by Jamie

So there's three purposes for this thread.

First, a few crappers are talking about getting fancy new cameras or fancy new toys for fancy existing cameras. You may have questions or want to discuss options. It's only natural. Run with it. Let it out.

Second, You can talk about photographic techniques, technical or artsy. How to get this effect or that effect.

Third, everybody who's not interested in either of the above can share links to their Flickr (or whatever) photostream, their public photoalbums on blogs/websites, self portaits (hrmm...), or whatever other random photographic detritus you have lying around.

Click!
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#56 by Gabe
2007-07-27 04:55:22
http://www.mandog.com
Shadarr, so far our experience is it's a really nice lens. Haven't experimented too much with the various VR settings and such, but we got some good shots at max zoom. Perhaps I'll even upload stuff to our group at some point!
#57 by Gabe
2007-07-27 05:01:42
http://www.mandog.com
Also, Flickr does have a pretty stupid interface. I feel like I have to rediscover every time how to add a contact.
#58 by CheesyPoof
2007-07-27 06:39:47
This one or this one?

Which ever one is Sam Week 148. I think the detail on the hair is better and showing that off better than the other one. I think the other is too soft.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#59 by CheesyPoof
2007-07-27 06:56:14
I spammed a few more pictures to the group.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#60 by Gabe
2007-07-27 06:58:50
http://www.mandog.com
So basically it's 2 vs. everyone else on the picture voting so far.
#61 by CheesyPoof
2007-07-27 07:05:39
I don't get flickr. The picture I put up first I can't get to via the group anymore.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#62 by OwenButler
2007-07-27 12:07:52
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
Awesome!

I've joined the group (and flickr come to that) and posted a few shots.

#63 by LPMiller
2007-07-27 13:22:47
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
that's an awesome 'stache, ray.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#64 by deadlock
2007-07-27 13:33:03
http://www.deadlocked.org/
It'd be awesomer if you lost the beard though.

#65 by Jamie
2007-07-27 14:57:50
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
Here's who we have in the PC Flickr Group so far:

assembler
Caryn
Cheesypoof
deadlock
Ergo
Gabe
Jamie
jjohnson
Leslie Nassar
LPmiller
OwenButler
Shadarr

#66 by CheesyPoof
2007-07-27 15:44:21
OwenButler, we had a rocket ship like that near a playground us growing up. That's was cool, back before BigToys took over the playground.

Shadarr, I like the picture of the sitting seagull. It looks cold out, was it?

jjohnsen, you're a dork, but I mean that in a good way (re: multiple shots of yourself blended into one).

jamie, I think that you take the best shots here. I, and my wife, we just snap away, but you can see the thought you put into your shots. I've like all that I've seen.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#67 by LPMiller
2007-07-27 16:24:31
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
NO LOVE FOR LP?

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#68 by CheesyPoof
2007-07-27 16:27:19
Well, I was going to say that your kid during Easter reminded me of Cindy Lou Who, but that didn't seem right to say. Cute as a button though.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#69 by BobJustBob
2007-07-27 16:27:49
If he commented on your photos, his girlfriend might get pregnant.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#70 by BobJustBob
2007-07-27 16:28:00
TOO LATE!

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#71 by CheesyPoof
2007-07-27 16:29:13
D'oh.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#72 by bishop
2007-07-27 16:29:32
http://www.darkintellect.com/00FF00/
I have signed up!
#73 by Hugin
2007-07-27 16:43:53
lmccain@nber.org
I've joined.  Now the challenge will be to take pictures that don't suck. :(
#74 by jjohnsen
2007-07-27 17:00:12
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#38 by Jamie

So I entered a photo contest last night after going back and forth over which picture to enter. You guys tell me: Which of these pictures most makes you think about beautiful, healthy hair like you get from using JOHNSON'S Beautiful Hair Products like JOHNSON'S BABY SHAMPOO or JOHNSON'S DETANGLING SHAMPOO or JOHNSON'S EXTRA CONDITIONING SHAMPOO? This one or this one?


The second one.




#40 by Shadarr

My new baby.

Presumably the last picture I will ever take with my Olympus.

*jealous*

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#75 by assemblerer
2007-07-27 17:00:32
http://uglycode.com
DDoS! DDoS! Flickr will fall!

#76 by jjohnsen
2007-07-27 17:03:10
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#43 by Shadarr

So how do I add someone as a contact?  I swear Flickr's interface was designed by my exact opposite.


#53 by Jamie

#43 by Shadarr

So how do I add someone as a contact?  I swear Flickr's interface was designed by my exact opposite.

Click their name, then click "profile" then look for the "Add _____ as contact" link. Click that.

Wow, that DOES sound convoluted when I write it out like that.

Or you can hover over their avatar.  It will give you a drop-down that lets you select add contact.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#77 by CheesyPoof
2007-07-27 17:04:50
Huh. I was waiting to be added and then clicked on the link to reciprocate.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#78 by jjohnsen
2007-07-27 17:08:40
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#66 by CheesyPoof


jjohnsen, you're a dork, but I mean that in a good way (re: multiple shots of yourself blended into one).

It, along with this one were for a photography contest with the theme of clone.  It was the only thing I could think of.

On my family blog I put up a photo every day, so I run out of ideas all the time.  To keep myself motivated I do things like enter assignments that give you a theme each week or enter a contest with a specific theme.  It keeps me from being lazy and taking pictures of stuff other than my kids.  I actually have an idea for another one of those shots with my daughter that I'm trying to figure out.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#79 by Jamie
2007-07-27 17:22:45
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
I did one of those too. They're fun and pretty easy. Just get a tripod, take several pictures using a timer or remote control, put the pics a photoshop file as different layers, then erase the appropriate parts of the top layers sot that the ones below show through.

#66 by CheesyPoof

OwenButler, we had a rocket ship like that near a playground us growing up. That's was cool, back before BigToys took over the playground.

I looked at that picture this morning and didn't get the joke. Then 20 minutes later while doing something else I just suddenly got it and snickered.

jamie, I think that you take the best shots here. I, and my wife, we just snap away, but you can see the thought you put into your shots. I've like all that I've seen.

Thanks! Again, part of it is that I just take a ton of pics and only post my favorites, though. I've got tons of plain snapshots in my archives, too.

#80 by Jamie
2007-07-27 17:56:39
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
Allrighty, more linky link. Some of my favorite photoblogs. If found most of them on photoblogs.org, which is a stupendous destroyer of time.

:photoschau
Daily Dose of Imagery
chromasia
Random Panderings
serial photographer
Thinsite
What The Heck Journal
2007 Picture a Day (or week)
decoys like curves
Thomas Hawk's Digital Connection

I haven't really collected many Flickr photostreams, but I do love these two:

Johnny Blood - Really sublime stuff from Wisconsin of all places
Nichole Van - She does a lot of wedding and family portraits and environmental portraits. They're awesome. I really love her child photography stuff in particular. I only wish I could be that good.

#81 by Gabe
2007-07-27 17:59:37
http://www.mandog.com
I know parents hate to hear this, but endless streams of pictures of kids kind of suck.
#82 by bishop
2007-07-27 18:18:12
http://www.darkintellect.com/00FF00/
So, for uploading pictures to flickr, what resolution should I use?

When uploading stuff to my own server I generally just resize the files off of the camera by 25% (they are some obscene resolution / file size) with no crops whatsoever, which puts it at a nice 640x480 or there abouts.

not that I have anything interesting to take pictures of, but I've got a tripod and I intend to use it!
#83 by Shadarr
2007-07-27 18:18:17
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Shadarr, I like the picture of the sitting seagull. It looks cold out, was it?

No, that was only about a month ago.  The gull is merely huddling for laziness.
#84 by Ergo
2007-07-27 18:19:41
I can upload some pics from a major backpacking trip last year.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#85 by Jamie
2007-07-27 18:22:21
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
#81 by Gabe

I know parents hate to hear this, but endless streams of pictures of kids kind of suck.

I take your point, but of the 30 pics currently in the Flickr group, 9 of them are of kids or have kids in them. 10 if you count Cheesy's picture of the two African kids who I assume are not his --AS FAR AS HE KNOWS.

But here. My "no kids" set. Well, maybe one or two. But mostly none.

#86 by CheesyPoof
2007-07-27 18:23:34
So, for uploading pictures to flickr, what resolution should I use?

It's a free account, I don't resize shit. I figure flickr will re-size it to the max allowed anyway. I supposed you could resize to cut down on the upload time, but, meh.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#87 by Jamie
2007-07-27 18:26:42
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
It does. Actually, it creates several different sizes, which you can access via the "All Sizes" icon above the pictures.

I usually upload mine in 900x600'ish. Not sure what the max size is.

#88 by CheesyPoof
2007-07-27 18:27:05
10 if you count Cheesy's picture of the two African kids who I assume are not his --AS FAR AS HE KNOWS.

/me has shifty eyes

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#89 by Shadarr
2007-07-27 18:27:11
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Assemblerer, what's EXIF data?  Those shots are all scanned.
#90 by Gabe
2007-07-27 18:29:21
http://www.mandog.com
Jamie, that's a poor way to analyze it. If I were to just upload my 300 pictures from the latest vacation would that make it not kid oriented? LP's pics are mainly kids, you like to post pics of your kids, JJ likes to post pics of his kids. See what I'm saying?
#91 by Gabe
2007-07-27 18:31:39
http://www.mandog.com
Anyway, close to a third are of your own kids given the wide variety of the world seems like a huge percentage.
#92 by jjohnsen
2007-07-27 18:34:10
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#89 by Shadarr

Assemblerer, what's EXIF data?  Those shots are all scanned.

EXIF data is the data that is saved by a digital camera with each photo.  On flickr you can access it by clicking more information to the right of your photo.  For example, this is the EXIF data from the latest photo in my FLICKR stream.

Camera:   Fujifilm FinePix S7000
Exposure: 0.002 sec (1/420)
Aperture: f/6.3
Focal Length: 13 mm
ISO Speed: 160
Exposure Bias: 0/100 EV
Flash: Flash did not fire

Orientation: Horizontal (normal)
X-Resolution: 72 dpi
Y-Resolution: 72 dpi
Software: QuickTime 7.1.6
Date and Time: 2007:07:24 22:11:15
Host Computer: Mac OS X 10.4.9
YCbCr Positioning: Centered
Exposure Program: Normal
Date and Time (Original): 2007:07:23 06:54:25
Date and Time (Digitized): 2007:07:23 06:54:25
Shutter Speed: 870/100
Brightness: 830/100
Maximum Lens Aperture: 300/100
Metering Mode: Pattern
Color Space: sRGB
Sensing Method: One-chip colour area sensor
Compression: JPEG


Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#93 by jjohnsen
2007-07-27 18:38:50
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#81 by Gabe

I know parents hate to hear this, but endless streams of pictures of kids kind of suck.

I try to mix it up but my two kids are the easiest subjects when I'm in a hurry and just want to get some shots off.  I try to do a good mix, but in reality my website is meant to keep my parents and in-laws up to date on their grandchildren, so they'd be disappointed if all I had were nature shots.

Also somewhat PC and photo related - Chris has an interesting site, Faces of the City,  where he's taking photos of random New Yorkers.  He also has them on Flickr.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#94 by Ergo
2007-07-27 18:39:13
#91 by Gabe

Anyway, close to a third are of your own kids given the wide variety of the world seems like a huge percentage.

And you accuse me of being a grumpy old fart.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#95 by Gabe
2007-07-27 18:40:31
http://www.mandog.com
Ergo, I don't think I've ever done that actually.
#96 by CheesyPoof
2007-07-27 18:42:25
Also somewhat PC and photo related - Chris has an interesting site, Faces of the City,  where he's taking photos of random New Yorkers.  

It would feel weird to me to point a camera at people I don't know and take their picture.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#97 by jjohnsen
2007-07-27 18:46:14
http://www.johnsenclan.com
I asked him about it, he says most of them don't even realize he's doing it.  I guess in the future he is considering handing out cards to his subjects with the web address.

#98 by Gabe
2007-07-27 18:47:15
http://www.mandog.com
He's already ordered cards.
#99 by LPMiller
2007-07-27 18:48:59
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
Jamie, that's a poor way to analyze it. If I were to just upload my 300 pictures from the latest vacation would that make it not kid oriented? LP's pics are mainly kids, you like to post pics of your kids, JJ likes to post pics of his kids. See what I'm saying?


Don't look. Or upload something cool. I take pictures of my kids. I suppose I could take pictures of my toes or sit out there for hours waiting for the perfect light in hopes of capturing the essence of a rabbit nibbling on a blade of grass. I mean jeez, I uploaded 5 pictures I thought didn't suck, I didn't think I had to be worried about the subject matter.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#100 by Ergo
2007-07-27 18:52:33
#95 by Gabe

Ergo, I don't think I've ever done that actually.

LIES.

I think.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#101 by Gabe
2007-07-27 18:54:04
http://www.mandog.com
omg, did I offend you? You can upload whatever the fuck you want, I was just pointing out that perhaps people's kids are more interesting to them than they are to random people. Shocking, I know.
#102 by bishop
2007-07-27 19:01:25
http://www.darkintellect.com/00FF00/
Thanks, gabe!
#103 by Jamie
2007-07-27 19:11:39
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
I don't mind the pictures of kids (though I don't necessarily disagree with Gabe's point), but one thing to consider is that this group/thread/whatever might give people the impetus they need to break out of their usual subjects, be it kids, pets, flowers, sunsets, whatever. jj and I take a assloads of pics of our kids because they're what's handy (and I use them in a weekly parenting entry on my blog) but we've also both made the effort to seek out additional subjects and types of shots as well.

Or, you know, if you're not interested in that kind of exercise, fine. Post tons of pictures of your kids, your vacation, your garden, your pets, your video game collection, whatever. I think it adds some nice context to the PlanetCrap community whatever it is.

#104 by Shadarr
2007-07-27 19:19:53
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I haven't posted any pictures of my cats yet, but I will.  You can count on that.
#105 by Gabe
2007-07-27 19:24:44
http://www.mandog.com
I'm sorry for injecting negative energy. I think this flickr group is a neat and fun idea. I had just noticed a trend towards kid shots and had an opinion.
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