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E3 is Dead!  Long Live E3!
July 9th 2007, 20:04 CEST by Hugin

E3 on PC, the booth babes are gone, but the sweet funk of gamer excitement remains!

It this the point where PS3 begins to turn things around?  

Will Nintendo bring anything of real excitement to the hardcore to the table, or will it just be all casual and party games?  

Will Halo 3 be awesome, or super awesome?  

Will Killzone 2 actually live up to the debut trailer?  

Any titles you're looking forward to seeing?  

What game will be best in show, as far as you're concerned?

Which company will have the best overall showing?

Discuss it here!
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#101 by Jibble
2007-07-11 20:30:57
If you want to look cool, you'll do it.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#102 by CheesyPoof
2007-07-11 20:32:48
Sure, it was only Cheesy that asked for them anyway and he's been withholding Africa pictures for weeks now so a bit of turnaround will do him good.

Hey now, you finished your blog so it's all good. I'm still working on mine.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#103 by Jamie
2007-07-11 20:56:36
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
#92 by Ergo
Jesus, talk about anal. Why the fuck do companies do this?

They use 3rd party services like Websense, which just blanket bans whole swaths of the Internet for convenience. As to why they do THAT, well I think LPMiller got it.

I'm more annoyed that I can't even access Gmail or any other webmail. Except, oddly, on my work-provided Blackberry, which is slow. So a few times I day I sit at my desk and load up Gmail on that.

#104 by BobJustBob
2007-07-11 21:12:18
At my last job we found that if you used the secure Gmail server, https://mail.google.com, that it wasn't blocked.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#105 by Jamie
2007-07-11 21:27:51
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
Yep, tried that. It's blocked.

#106 by BobJustBob
2007-07-11 21:29:03
Forever Blue coming out in the US on October 29th? Hooray!

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#107 by jjohnsen
2007-07-11 21:35:23
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Nothing too exciting from Nintendo, I'm not impressed.  I'll buy Wii Fitness.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#108 by Ergo
2007-07-11 21:55:18
I can understand blocking webmail, since it's a potential gateway for virused/trojaned email.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#109 by BobJustBob
2007-07-11 21:56:19
Some Nintendo release dates from the press pack, as reported by Eurogamer:

    * Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (Wii) - 27th August
    * Donkey Kong Barrel Blast (Wii) - 8th October
    * Battalion Wars (Wii) - 29th October
    * Endless Ocean (Wii) - 29th October
    * Fire Emblem (Wii) - 5th November
    * Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) - 12th November
    * Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) - 3rd December

    * Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day (DS) - 20th August
    * DK Jungle Climber (DS) - 10th September
    * The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (DS) - 1st October
    * Chibi-Robo: Park Patrol (DS) - 2nd October
    * Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day (DS) - 15th October
    * Mario Party DS (DS) - 19th November
    * Nintendo Magic (working title, DS) - 26th November
    * Professor Layton and the Curious Village (DS) - 3rd December

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#110 by Marsh Davies
2007-07-11 22:07:06
www.verbalchilli.com
Matt -

If more Fallout loot comes my way between now and release it's yours. Part of me wants to keep that kind of thing, but I really have too much stuff already.

#111 by Marsh Davies
2007-07-11 22:10:14
www.verbalchilli.com
Straw poll:

Who would consider buying Brain Age 2? And of those, who already has Brain Age? It seems to me they kind of fulfill the same purpose. It'd be like buying two hammers. The second might be a nicer colour or a slightly better grip, but it's still a hammer.

#112 by BobJustBob
2007-07-11 22:11:38
What if it had everything in Brain Age, plus a bunch more stuff?

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#113 by Jibble
2007-07-11 22:13:45
So, basically it'll be like Super Monkey Ball 2. I'm guessing people will buy it if they're bored with all the training programs Brain Age has to offer.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#114 by Marsh Davies
2007-07-11 22:18:58
www.verbalchilli.com
Bob - it has different stuff. All of them are functionally the same but mechanically different.

Jibble - you know, that's the exact thing. I don't think it's like sequels to other games. I'll happily buy Half-Life 2 Episode Blah knowing it will provide more of the same - because HL2 provides entertainment, and my ability to consume that is endless. Brain Age provides self-improving puzzles, and though they are packaged in a more alluring manner, they are basically chores. Do I need a different flavour of chore? I don't know.

#115 by Jamie
2007-07-11 22:22:31
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
I own Brain Age, but won't buy the sequel. The only thing that I could really stand was the Soduku, which was pretty good. It only took a few instances of things like saying "Blue. Blue. Blue! BLUE, YOU STUPID SON OF A BITCH!" into the microphone to turn me off most of the other games.

#116 by Matt Perkins
2007-07-11 22:23:17
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Marsh Davies (#110):
Matt -

If more Fallout loot comes my way between now and release it's yours. Part of me wants to keep that kind of thing, but I really have too much stuff already.

Now I just have to figure out what Dum shipped to you. :P

And that's awesome, but if you want to keep it, keep it good sir. I'll get shwag in time. :)

My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in

"I'm not sure it's possible to make a "subtle" jab at Matt's writing ability." - Ergo
#117 by G-Man
2007-07-11 22:53:28
I might have bought Brain Age 2* but now that I have this, all other "puzzle" games are superfluous. It really is smashingly well put together for a cheapo title.


* Actually, I still might depending on how its multiplayer turns out.
#118 by Shadarr
2007-07-11 22:58:38
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I'd probably be disappointed by Brain Age 2, if I'd played 1.  I found that I couldn't get into the revisions of WarioWare and Advance Wars.  On the other hand I loved both iterations of Animal Crossing, so it probably depends on the game.
#119 by jjohnsen
2007-07-11 23:29:19
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#109 by BobJustBob

Some Nintendo release dates from the press pack, as reported by Eurogamer:

    * Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (Wii) - 27th August

    * Donkey Kong Barrel Blast (Wii) - 8th October

    * Battalion Wars (Wii) - 29th October

    * Endless Ocean (Wii) - 29th October

    * Fire Emblem (Wii) - 5th November

    * Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) - 12th November

    * Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) - 3rd December

    * Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day (DS) - 20th August

    * DK Jungle Climber (DS) - 10th September

    * The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (DS) - 1st October

    * Chibi-Robo: Park Patrol (DS) - 2nd October

    * Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day (DS) - 15th October

    * Mario Party DS (DS) - 19th November

    * Nintendo Magic (working title, DS) - 26th November

    * Professor Layton and the Curious Village (DS) - 3rd December

Huh, still no Animal Crossing?  I don't know, I've been a Wii dude from the beginning, but they still haven't given me anything other than party games that I've enjoyed.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#120 by Shadarr
2007-07-11 23:41:33
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
If they give it a good interface, I'd be interested in Battalion Wars.
#121 by Xero
2007-07-12 00:28:00
http://novakometa.blogspot.com/
Fuck those twelve year old bitches on Evil Avatar, WiiFit is a goddamn game.

"But I don't exist in your world!" "Then you won't feel the bullets when we shoot you."
#122 by jjohnsen
2007-07-12 00:35:01
http://www.johnsenclan.com
So nothing exciting from the Sony press conference.  A new, slightly lighter PSP.  Woohoo?

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#123 by Shadarr
2007-07-12 00:36:19
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Did they officially announce the PS3 price drop?
#124 by BobJustBob
2007-07-12 00:53:31
I liked the Home stuff and the PSN stuff. Seems like Sony gets the downloadable games market better than Microsoft does.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#125 by Hugin
2007-07-12 01:18:51
lmccain@nber.org
#122 by jjohnsen

So nothing exciting from the Sony press conference.  A new, slightly lighter PSP.  Woohoo?


Lighter, slimmer, longer battery life, faster loading times, and video out.
#126 by Leslie Nassar
2007-07-12 01:30:14
they all sound like very, very good things.
#127 by LPMiller
2007-07-12 01:35:45
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
sure, until it crawls on your face in the middle of the night and steals your soul.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#128 by Shadarr
2007-07-12 01:36:36
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Seems like Sony gets the downloadable games market better than Microsoft does.

That was obvious last year when that guy who made God of War was talking about putting out small, fun and original games for download rather than just repackaging old games.  Now the question is whether their online system will evolve to be as good as Live.
#129 by jjohnsen
2007-07-12 01:55:11
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#125 by Hugin

#122 by jjohnsen

So nothing exciting from the Sony press conference.  A new, slightly lighter PSP.  Woohoo?

Lighter, slimmer, longer battery life, faster loading times, and video out.

Woohoo?  It's still a PSP, and it still uses UMD.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#130 by jjohnsen
2007-07-12 01:55:49
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#128 by Shadarr

Seems like Sony gets the downloadable games market better than Microsoft does.

That was obvious last year when that guy who made God of War was talking about putting out small, fun and original games for download rather than just repackaging old games.  Now the question is whether their online system will evolve to be as good as Live.

I didn't hear much about his small, fun game.  It was just recently released, did anyone play it?

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#131 by Hugin
2007-07-12 02:07:03
lmccain@nber.org
I'm not sure any active board posters have a PS3 yet jj (to have played Calling All Cars).  From what I hear it's a very fun multiplayer game, if you can grab the people to play it with you.  For single player downloadable the new hotness seems to Super Stardust HD.
#132 by Qmanol
2007-07-12 02:10:22
Damn them for putting one of my favourite old Amiga games on the big ugly $1000 console. PC release, plz.

It isn't a Fallout game unless I use my pickpocketing skill to place a ticking dynamite bomb into the pockets of an 8 year old boy.
#133 by Shadarr
2007-07-12 02:32:22
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I've heard good things about Calling All Cars over on qt3, but the thing about small downloadable games is that they don't sell consoles.  Especially not ricockulously expensive consoles without any good large games.
#134 by hangedmanAG
2007-07-12 03:08:31
www.livejournal.com/users/hangedman_ag/
Here is the [url=www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtjbqQo4geE]X-Play review of Calling All Cars.  Its looks cute and fun but slight.

My crummy little life
#135 by hangedmanAG
2007-07-12 03:08:59
www.livejournal.com/users/hangedman_ag/
Dammnit!

My crummy little life
#136 by Jibble
2007-07-12 04:37:17
Hrm, G4 seems to be messed up. The audio is delayed about 10 seconds behind the video. Annoying, but not as annoying as listening to people talk about video games and not show any gameplay footage.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#137 by lwf
2007-07-12 06:17:15
We have a PS3, but not calling all cars, it's only like 7 bucks. Sony's broken store doesn't seem to want money from our credit card. Game most recently played: The Darkness.

5 reasons to hate minorities: Poor, Lazy, Smell bad, Wrong religion, and the rich ones take all the women. Wii.
#138 by Matt Perkins
2007-07-12 15:44:04
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Xero (#121):
Fuck those twelve year old bitches on Evil Avatar, WiiFit is a goddamn game.

How so? I'd say it's a trick to get nerds to exercise! :P

My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in

"I'm not sure it's possible to make a "subtle" jab at Matt's writing ability." - Ergo
#139 by gaggle
2007-07-12 17:53:27
WiiFit looked a little more gamey than what I'm interested in. Basically I think Yourself!Fitness is a pretty well-rounded program, I just need to use it more (still haven't unlocked any new content, and I installed the damn thing late 2004/early 2005! Bastards)

On the other hand Mario Galaxy continues to pull at me. It just looks like relaxing fun, even if it isn't story driven. Nintendo even manages to make me somewhat interested in Metroid Prime (though not enough to secure a purchase), I am oddly powerless against their magics.


Have all of you seen Castle Crashers? Look here for a direct HD link. Wow that looks positively amazing! Again, no story, but four player frantic fun coop?

"…a four-dimensional real vector space equipped with a nondegenerate, symmetric bilinear form."
#140 by jjohnsen
2007-07-12 17:57:34
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#139 by gaggle

WiiFit looked a little more gamey than what I'm interested in. Basically I think Yourself!Fitness is a pretty well-rounded program, I just need to use it more (still haven't unlocked any new content, and I installed the damn thing late 2004/early 2005! Bastards)

Really, it looks really similar to me.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#141 by Matt Perkins
2007-07-12 18:04:31
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
gaggle (#139):
Have all of you seen Castle Crashers? Look here for a direct HD link. Wow that looks positively amazing! Again, no story, but four player frantic fun coop?

Is that Wii only? Because that looks cool as shit. My kids and I would have a great time playing that I'm thinking.

My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in

"I'm not sure it's possible to make a "subtle" jab at Matt's writing ability." - Ergo
#142 by Ray
2007-07-12 18:07:08
ray@frenden.com http://frenden.com
360. Dan Paladin from Alien Hominid made it. I've chatted with him off and on and I respect his dedication to 2D. Good buy.
#143 by Matt Perkins
2007-07-12 18:17:11
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Ray (#142):
360. Dan Paladin from Alien Hominid made it. I've chatted with him off and on and I respect his dedication to 2D. Good buy.

Sweet. The art looks fantastic. I'm loving some good 2D.

My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in

"I'm not sure it's possible to make a "subtle" jab at Matt's writing ability." - Ergo
#144 by gaggle
2007-07-12 18:21:11
Yeah 360 only. It looks fantastically charming. And it really would fit right in on the Wii, but I've no idea if that could ever happen.



#140 by jjohnsen
Really, it looks really similar to me.

Hm. Have we not seen the same video? All I've seen so far is a guy standing on a pad and he has to lean into footballs thrown at him. Or keep hula hoops rotating. Very (very!) Wii Sports like. Which isn't bad in and of itself, just not what I was looking for.

"…a four-dimensional real vector space equipped with a nondegenerate, symmetric bilinear form."
#145 by Matt Perkins
2007-07-12 19:46:09
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
More on E3 games... Haze looks like it could be pretty cool.

And Infamous...oh man, so much potential. Sure, it'll probably end up crap, but the concept and description sound so very cool.

My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in

"I'm not sure it's possible to make a "subtle" jab at Matt's writing ability." - Ergo
#146 by Marsh Davies
2007-07-12 20:14:20
www.verbalchilli.com
The thing about Calling All Cars is that it's a budget title and knows it - which means its pretty thin on content, but it's entertaining enough for what it is. The problem is that you can buy Mashed: Fully Loaded secondhand now for about the same price and it's a much better game of a similar ilk and has tonnes more content. Plus it looks better too.

#147 by jjohnsen
2007-07-12 20:30:54
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#144 by gaggle

Yeah 360 only. It looks fantastically charming. And it really would fit right in on the Wii, but I've no idea if that could ever happen.



#140 by jjohnsen

Really, it looks really similar to me.

Hm. Have we not seen the same video? All I've seen so far is a guy standing on a pad and he has to lean into footballs thrown at him. Or keep hula hoops rotating. Very (very!) Wii Sports like. Which isn't bad in and of itself, just not what I was looking for.

Maybe we haven't seen the same video.  The one I saw showed the Wii Sports type stuff, and also showed a person figuring out their BMI, doing push-ups and jumping jacks, and doing different yoga positions.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#148 by gaggle
2007-07-12 21:29:13
Okay JJ, I've now seen a better trailer, and I'm so buying it when it comes out.

It's still more game-ish in its presentation than I was looking for, but fuck that, it measures BMI and stuff and shows progress-charts and that's plenty good for me. Really, the big reason I'm suddenly so interested is because I just realized Wii Fit will work without jumping on the floor. Right? I don't think you'll be asked to jump all over that little pad. I can't jump around in my apartment very well, and unfortunately Yourself!Fitness requires that a lot.

"…a four-dimensional real vector space equipped with a nondegenerate, symmetric bilinear form."
#149 by jjohnsen
2007-07-12 22:29:13
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Yeah, it looks like just basic leaning and balancing is a large part of it.  It really seems like something that could become part of a fitness plan, which is why my wife and I loved Yourself Fitness so much.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#150 by Hugin
2007-07-12 22:33:17
lmccain@nber.org
New Little Big Planet stuff.

Echochrome. Puzzle game based on manipulating optical illusions.  Kind of cool.
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