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July 9th 2007, 19:55 CEST by lwf Here is a place for all of you to talk about WoW, Magic, LOTRO, C+, C#, Visual Basic, Pointers, Gardening, Astrology, MeyersBriggs, Gaggle vs. Joker, and Jibble's kinks. |
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So I guess the DC Madam released all her old phone records on the web. Going to be interesting to watch all the political blog followers try in vain to match phone numbers to politicians. I'm guessing most of them would use unlisted numbers, and hence improbable to trace back unless you're a phone company employee. Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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Jibble (#75): We're down to two possibilities again: 1) He lied to Congress. 2) He's incompetent and didn't read the reports. I honestly don't think he lied. I think he, like the rest of the administration, simply ignores any and all reports that have the word "oversight" on the cover. You really think he's dumb enough to not read the reports? Really? I have a hard time believing that. My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in
"I'm not sure it's possible to make a "subtle" jab at Matt's writing ability." - Ergo |
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His record isn't exactly stellar. He's a lap dog. Gee, I wonder what will happen if we convict him of perjury. Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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He'll appeal the conviction to the Supreme Court and win in a 5-4 decision? Game Developers: Don't forget the zombie monkeys.
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I'm betting the president will just claim executive privilege and tell everyone to stay the hell away. My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in
"I'm not sure it's possible to make a "subtle" jab at Matt's writing ability." - Ergo |
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This thread combined with my compulsion to read every post is filling me with regrets. I could start up my WoW posts again if you want, I've been rather slack in my MMO ramblings. MP3 Of The Week: The Go! Team - Grip Like A Vice.mp3 (?)
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I got my pony in LotRO. I wish it was faster. I'm getting closer to the 40's, but I hear that's an awful grind. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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Wrong. The correct answer was: "Bush will commute his sentence." Thanks for playing, though. Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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#67 by deadlock jjohnsen: I'd like to give a shout out for the Pentax range - the K10D is supposed to be a fine piece of kit. Pentax aren't as popular as Nikon and Canon but the K10D (and the older ist* models) have the Pentax KAF lense mount. What this means is that you have access to absolutely loads of Pentax K-mount lenses. I'll take a look. The main reason I was looking at the D40 was everyone that has one seems to be in love, and my Dad has been using Nikon's forever and swears by them. But I'm willing to give anything a shot at the price point of the D40. Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP Johnsen Family
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Jibble (#83): Wrong. The correct answer was: "Bush will commute his sentence." Thanks for playing, though. We knew the correct answer! We did, I swear! Well, I did, Chunk is suspect. My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in
"I'm not sure it's possible to make a "subtle" jab at Matt's writing ability." - Ergo |
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jj, I love my Nikon, but to be fair I haven't spent any time with Canon. |
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For Africa we got the Panasonic Lumix FZ8. We toyed with the idea of an SLR, but being that we're not camera nerds thought it would have been too much. Given that the FZ8 can feel like a bit much at times, an SLR would have been overkill. Maybe if/when we get comfortable with all of the FZ8 features (it supports that RAW mode to help us get into the 5th circile of camera nerdom) we'll move to an SLR. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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I never put too much stock in people who love the only version of a product that they've ever owned. If they hate it, that tells me something, but if they love it it might just mean they don't now what they're missing. However, according to consumer reports the D200 is still the king of prosumer DSLRs, with the D80 and Canon equivilent slightly behind and the K10D and D40 rounding out the top 5. Horrible song of the nonce: Left Behind
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Nice shots, jjohnsen, Shadarr, and Hugin. If you want to see any of mine you can look at my blog or on my Flickr photostream. Look at the Photo of the Week stuff if you don't want to see a hoojillion pics of my kids. #54 by jjohnsen I starting to find that as well. I told my wife I needed a break from finals, so she told me to take off and do whatever I wanted. Instead of playing Overlord, I grabbed my camera. Two years ago that never would have happened. I've noticed a steady improvement in your pics from checking in on your blog over the last several months. Especially when you shoot something staged and/or creative instead of the family (though, of course, those subjects are required shooting, too). |
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We toyed with the idea of an SLR, but being that we're not camera nerds thought it would have been too much. There's not much point getting an SLR if you're not going to learn how to use it. Aside from the ability to swap lenses, the sorts of things you can do with an SLR that you can't do with a PHD camera are not going to help you take better snapshots. Really, the only reason to get an SLR is if you find yourself thinking "I wish my current camera let me _____." The main one being manual exposure control. Horrible song of the nonce: Left Behind
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"I wish my camera let me have a shallow depth-of-field" |
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Shadarr, I never put too much stock in people who love the only version of a product that they've ever owned. And I provided the caveat. Hard to imagine the D80 is doing something egregious compared to the competitor's equivalent, though. There's not much point getting an SLR if you're not going to learn how to use it. Don't fully agree. Even before learning more about how to use it, just for point and shoot pictures it was obvious the optics were vastly superior. |
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#91 by Leslie Nassar "I wish my camera let me have a shallow depth-of-field" You can get some of that with a P&S by switching to "portrait mode" (or something similar). It further helps to have the subject stand farther away from the background or foreground, and to zoom in with a longer focal length. But I doubt you'll get extremely shallow depth of field shots like this or this or this with most P&S cameras. |
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I don't get 'inanimate' photography. 2005 TOTY 10000 badge winner and proud carrier.
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Hey, I take pictures too. I need to get a new camera at some point, though. I could never move to a pro model, as it would require way too much work for what I generally do with my camera. Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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Also, Jamie, that's an awesome shot of your daughter. Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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i need to take more photos. |
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Gabe, I should've quoted, I posted in reply to jjeremy and didn't see yours. Is the optics quality a result of it being an SLR, or just the fact that you get what you pay for? You can get some of that with a P&S by switching to "portrait mode" (or something similar). My Nikon has a bunch of crap like that, and my crappy Olympus digital probably does too, but I find it very frustrating to try to learn camera-specific features like that. Even just remembering what the little picture of a flower means is beyond me. I pretty much just use aperture priority mode, even when what I really want to change is the shutter speed. Horrible song of the nonce: Left Behind
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I remember what the flower picture means. That must be what you call macro. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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Hey, I take pictures too. I need to get a new camera at some point, though. I could never move to a pro model, as it would require way too much work for what I generally do with my camera. Nonsense, on my camera if you set it to auto focus/auto aperture/auto flash/matrix metering it behaves exactly like a PHD camera. It just lets you do more when you want to do more. Those first two shots would've benefited from a polarizer to take the glare off the glass. Horrible song of the nonce: Left Behind
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Is the optics quality a result of it being an SLR, or just the fact that you get what you pay for? You probably can't disentangle that, right? No point in dumping $500 into the optics on a fixed lens point and shoot system. |
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#96 by Jibble Also, Jamie, that's an awesome shot of your daughter. That's a groundhog. Oh, wait, the one with the donut. Right. Thanks! |
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Those first two shots would've benefited from a polarizer to take the glare off the glass. I don't even know what the hell you're talking about. Cameras are one of the few things I haven't geeked the hell out on, mostly because they're godawfully expensive as a habit. I'm sure I could learn all that stuff, but I just can't muster up the attention span to bother with it right now. Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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#96 by Jibble Also, Jamie, that's an awesome shot of your daughter. Jamie takes some of the best portrait/kid's shots I've seen. He has this amazing ability to make even the most staged shot look totally natural. The only reason I found out he setts some of the shots of his daughter up, is I asked him what he bribed her with to become the perfect model. #90 by Shadarr We toyed with the idea of an SLR, but being that we're not camera nerds thought it would have been too much. There's not much point getting an SLR if you're not going to learn how to use it. Aside from the ability to swap lenses, the sorts of things you can do with an SLR that you can't do with a PHD camera are not going to help you take better snapshots. Really, the only reason to get an SLR is if you find yourself thinking "I wish my current camera let me _____." The main one being manual exposure control. I totally agree. I want the DSLR for better optics as well as more control (and RAW). Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP Johnsen Family
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#103 by Jibble I don't even know what the hell you're talking about. Cameras are one of the few things I haven't geeked the hell out on, mostly because they're godawfully expensive as a habit. I'm sure I could learn all that stuff, but I just can't muster up the attention span to bother with it right now. Polarizers are a kind of filter (little pieces of glass you screw on to the front of your lens) that reduce glare from glass, water, or other reflective surfaces. They also slightly increase the saturation of colors. And yes, photography can be a monstrously expensive hobby. There's always more stuff to buy, even after you get a good camera/lens setup. I'm done buying lenses for a while, but there's still no shortage of accessories. jj, thanks. It's not so much skill as it is taking LOTS and LOTS of pictures and then sorting through them to find the few good ones. This is the beauty of digital photography. Or, put another way: It's easy to take a picture that's one in a million. First, take 999,999 pictures. Then take just one more. |
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it is taking LOTS and LOTS of pictures and then sorting through them to find the few good ones. This is the beauty of digital photography Can't be emphasized enough. Take lots and lots of pictures. Some of them are going to be good and digital makes the process relatively painless. |
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This reminds me of another advantage of SLRs over point & shoots: speed. You can just hold down the shutter release button and (if you're not using a flash) take several pics per second. My camera does up to 3 per second, and the top of the line Canon 1D takes an absurd 10 shots per second. When my kid is doing something I want to get a shot of, I'll often just hold down the button and end up with 10-20 nearly identical shots within a few seconds. I just pick the best one or two and delete the rest. Or do something like this. |
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The FZ8 does that quick shutter stuff. <Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
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Can't be emphasized enough. Take lots and lots of pictures. Some of them are going to be good and digital makes the process relatively painless. This is why I'm thinking of getting a DSLR sooner rather than later. When I was just using it to take the odd snapshot, I was only going through a few rolls a year. But to get those flower photos I blew through an entire roll, which means those two photos cost me $12. Do that 100 times and I'm at the price of a D80. Plus, instant feedback would really speed up the learning process. The nighttime pictures I took totally didn't work (although it's kind of amazing to see a picture you know you took at midnight that looks like late afternoon), with an LCD on the camera I could've made adjustments right then and eventually gotten the picture I wanted. Horrible song of the nonce: Left Behind
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Yeah, I generally take dozens of photos of the same subject to sort through later. Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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the optics are better to a point, but high end SLRs like the Panasonic Fz7/8, the Fujitsus, and some from canon and nikon actually have really nice optics to begin with. The other reason for the quality has to do with the CCD being used. The ones in a DSLR are higher quality, and really what you are paying for is the better CCD and the option to change the optics out. Those 4 makers put out really nice "almost" SLRs that are good starting points for people interested in DSLRs but afraid of all the lenses and that they won't take pictures worthy of the camera. Master those, and you'll have no trouble with the higher end cameras. But there is not as near a large difference as their used to be between the two types of cameras in terms of plain "what comes in the box" optics anymore, at least not with the higher quality cameras. "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
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The FZ8 does that quick shutter stuff. Yeah it does, but believe me, you only think it's fast till you get a d80 in your hands and find out that while the FZ8 is plenty fast for an SLR, it's nothing on a DSLR. "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
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Yeah it does, but believe me, you only think it's fast till you get a d80 in your hands and find out that while the FZ8 is plenty fast for an SLR, it's nothing on a DSLR. What do you mean when you say SLR? The D in DSLR stands for digital, so if the FZ8 is an SLR it's by definition a DSLR. Horrible song of the nonce: Left Behind
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I've got a Panasonic FZ30 and Canon 400D (Rebel XTi) in front of me. Here are a couple of quick shots for comparison (bland subject matter -- my desk); Panasonic FZ30 Canon 400D |
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... and here's the macro at work on the 400D (Sigma 105mm 2.8); Keys Nagra |
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i'm sorry, I mean single lense versus lense swapping cameras. "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
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That's some seriously shitty depth of field. Horrible song of the nonce: Left Behind
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macro @ 2.8? yeah, it's going to be shallow. |
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shadarr @ different apertures; f 2.8 f 6.3 f 11 |
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My flash kit arrived today, except there was no flash in it. So now I have everything I need to set up an external flash except the flash itself. Talk about a letdown. Horrible song of the nonce: Left Behind
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Shadarr said in #25: This weekend I did some caulking and painting for Habitat for Humanity. It was much more laid back than search and rescue, they basically just send out an email and then whoever shows up on Saturday gets put to work. There is no training and no real application process. Just out of curiosity, why do you engage in so many charitable activities? Is it boredom, moral obligation, peer pressure, habit, altruism, the social aspect, etc.? |
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It would be you, who would ask that question. |
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#76 by Jibble So I guess the DC Madam released all her old phone records on the web. Going to be interesting to watch all the political blog followers try in vain to match phone numbers to politicians. I'm guessing most of them would use unlisted numbers, and hence improbable to trace back unless you're a phone company employee. Not all of them. Let's all point and laugh! Thank Morn he's a Republican. And there used to be a way to stick it to the Man. It was called rock 'n roll, but guess what, oh no, the Man ruined that, too, with a little thing called MTV!
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#123 by Gunp01nt #76 by Jibble So I guess the DC Madam released all her old phone records on the web. Going to be interesting to watch all the political blog followers try in vain to match phone numbers to politicians. I'm guessing most of them would use unlisted numbers, and hence improbable to trace back unless you're a phone company employee. Not all of them. Let's all point and laugh! Thank Morn he's a Republican. I haven't read anything about this guy, but I'm assuming he's anti-abortion, promotes "family values" and hates homosexuals? Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP Johnsen Family
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