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The 2006 PlanetCrap Trollie Awards.
January 31st 2007, 17:04 CET by CheesyPoof Only lagging the Oscars by a week or so, this isn't too late. M0nty is too lazy to do it proper so I'll do it, again. I took out the 'foreign' nonsense and made up some new categories. Have fun. PLANETCRAP DIVISION PlanetCrap's Worst Attempt At A Troll -- Wudi. Another poor effort this year to win again. PlanetCrap's Least Comprehensible Troll -- bago. Could go to none1a, but I say give it to bago so he has something positive to say about 2006. PlanetCrap's Most Pretentious Troll -- Marsh Davies. You could also consider Bago, but who else could wax so eloquently about a video game called Gears of War like it was a lost work of Chaucer? PlanetCrap's Best Multiclass Troll [e.g. Dev/Troll, Journo/Troll] - gaggle. Does he have taste in anything? PlanetCrap's Best Drama Queen Troll -- UncleJeet, we hardly could stand ya. Now you melted down and gone away. PlanetCrap's Best User of Cliches To Deflect Trolls -- Jibble (again). PlanetCrap's Best Cliche-spawning Troll -- I can't think of any new cliches. The best I could think of is Warren's "you're awesome" for bago, but it's not really turned into a cliche yet. PlanetCrap's Most Predictable Troll -- Your Friend. Ds comes back, and he calls him a stupid mick. So tired. PlanetCrap's Most Prolific & Persistent Troll -- The_Joker for last years TOTY thread. PlanetCrap's Spolier Troll -- Greg in a landslide. PlanetCrap's Best Annoying Troll -- This is the troll that gets under your skin. Any of BobJustBob, Jibble, G-Man, Hugin, Chris, Gabe, Greg, yotsuya and more, could win this category. It's wide open! PlanetCrap's Most Witty Troll -- chris. Dum has been off. Especially so since he got WoW. PlanetCrap's Most Convincing Conversion From Troll To Human - No one, again. This category will have to go away. PlanetCrap's Best New Troll/Lurker to Troll -- assembler. The only new person of note this year. PlanetCrap's Best Single Troll Post -- I don't know of any. PlanetCrap's Best Comeback Troll -- chris. Caryn and Gabe have a meet up with him, and he comes back. Hooray! TROLL OF THE YEAR PlanetCrap's Best Overall Troll -- M0nty. M0nty is far to modest to award the TOTY to Warren, but M0nty successfully trolled Joker into not posting for a month, and that deserves the top award. |
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What show is this? Even I know what crossing the Rubicon means, and I know fuck all about American history. -m0nty
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I'm going to London on Thursday for work. I'll be there a week. My hotel is right next to Victoria Station. Any suggestions on things to see and food that isn't awful would be much appreciated. World of Warcraft is a pie eating contest where the reward is more pie.
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You should bring some ATHF signs with you to London. They REALLY know how to overreact to terrorists threats there! and food that isn't awful would be much appreciated. McDonalds is pretty much your best bet for fine dining in the UK. YHBT. YHL. HAND
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It was damned inconvenient at rush hour, because the placement of the things inherently caused road shutdowns. Sullivan Square, where the first one was found, is a major public transit hub. One of the many amusing parts about this is that they were placed exactly where an advertisement should be placed if you're trying to go for the most eyeballs. High traffic, high impact spots around the city. Oh, and that guy is ridiculously smug. Of course, so are the rest of us. Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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Best response ever! The Japanese may make all the cars, the Chinese all the clothes and the French all the, um, Frenchmen. But damn if we don't lead the world in catchphrases.
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I was working from home yesterday so I didn't even hear about it. World of Warcraft is a pie eating contest where the reward is more pie.
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Oh god, that video is greatness. Somehow I'm not surprised that Fox kept them on the air that long. Gotta fill that time! TERROR ALERT! Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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McB - Cool. I don't know the kind of things you are into, or what you may have seen before. In terms of sight-seeing, I'd recommend checking out the bright lights of Leicester Square and Picadilly Circus, then maybe stroll from there down past the National Gallery, through Trafalgar Square, down Whitehall and to the Houses of Parliament. It's not a long walk but it knocks out about 5 or 6 landmarks in one go and gives you a good sense of the buzz and feel of London. That's my favourite area of the city. In terms of Things To Actually Do, you could catch a play (the area above is full of theatres) or a film (Leicester Square is where they hold the premieres in London and has some huge, but absurdly priced, screens). I'm not sure what else is on at the moment, but I know that there's a performance of Porgy and Bess that's got good reviews (at the Savoy Theatre). I'm hoping to get along to see that for my birthday on Tuesday. You should check out the Tate Modern for sure. It's in a nice area overlooking the Thames, and the building itself is fairly awesome, even if the stuff inside isn't your thing. It's free, too. St. Paul's, and many of the other churches around London, are well worth looking at as phenomenally beautiful pieces of architecture. As for food, I think Ergo's the one to advise you there. ;) It depends how much you want to spend, really. I baulk at anything over $20 a head, but if you are feeling fruity and want to splash out something in the region of $60, then you might do well to check out Rules restaurant which is in Maiden Lane, WC2. It's right in the heart of the city and is apparently one of the oldest restaurants, if not the oldest restaurant, in London. Dates back to 1798 a quick Google informs me. Oh look, a review. Actually it might be a good idea to have a look at the rest of the Guardian newspaper's picks for eateries. I'm sure their food editor can afford better meals than I can. There are a bunch of small restaurants that I rely on for decent and considerably cheaper food, but they all have generic continental sounding names and I will have to check up on their actual addresses for you. Belgo is a fairly cheap Belgian-style restaurant where you can get muscles and the like. Food For Thought in Covent Garden is a dirt cheap veggie restaurant that's pretty quirky and cool. Now. Pubs. You could check out the Horse and Groom, which is in Belgravia, very near to Victoria. Ye Olde Cheshire Cheese (Fleet Street), and The Ship and Shovel (located in the amusingly named Craven passage, near Embankment) are two of my favourites. Fancy A Pint is a reliable source for finding good pubs in your postal code. Hope that helps, and that there isn't too much stuff to sift through here. I'm going down to London tomorrow, but I may have to come back to Cardiff about the time that you arrive. If it works out that I'm down there, I'd be happy to meet up and take you somewhere to eat/drink. - words and stuff -
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So apparently Microsoft has made Vista incompatible with iTunes; you can't authorize the computer to play tracks bought from the iTunes Store. Nice. Jean-Robert Bourdage ... Hot dog vendor
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#120 by Mister Nutty She's funny sometimes, but... Jesus is Magic was horrible. Painful to watch. Had to shut it off halfway through. What the hell are you talking about? Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP Johnsen Family
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Sarah Silverman's movie. I liked it. Game Developers: Don't forget the zombie monkeys.
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What the hell are you talking about? Sarah Silverman. YHBT. YHL. HAND
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Don't listen to Chunkstyle, it was dreadful. YHBT. YHL. HAND
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The standup was pretty funny for the most part. I like her. Hate Jimmy Kimmel. |
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Now one likes Kimmel though. Silverman is both extremely funny and very hot. That's a winning combination in my mind. |
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No, the Boston pd didnt over-react, a suspect device was reported and dealt with appropriately. In Ulster, 5-10 years ago, it would have been handled exactly the same way. Its not pussification, its not over-reaction, its dealing with something that has the potential to be nasty. 3-4 oz of semtex on the back of that board, wait til someone takes it down to 'trace the wires' and blow it in their face, instant dead bombsquad member. Or someone takes it home for their kids, sayonara fingers or kids. Suspect devices are not examined carefully, all up close and personal. You send a drone in with either a high pressure water cannon or a modified shotgun, and do your damndest to render the device harmless. Meanwhile you have the area cordoned off to a reasonable distance. The IRA put bombs in trash cans, phonebooths, carbombs, they put handgrenades in pintglasses and stuck them on open doors, they boobytrapped gates, put mortar launchers into the back of vans. Simply put, you dont take the fucking chance its harmless, because the one time you think 'eh its just a litebrite' some fucker is going to have it wired to a few lbs of commercial plastique and take some poor bastards head off. Its not holywood machismo at work, its not omg terrar Im gonna be a hero, its reacting to a potential threat in an appropriate fashion. Do you really think the rest of the fucking world hasnt had to deal with this shit for a while? Ask the germans about their various issues, or the french, or the fucking spaniards, then take a look at the bombs that have been set off in those countries. Take a moment to contrast how the rest of the world gets the fuck on with things compared to the US, then realise that its not about fighting terrorism, its politcal grandstanding by a worthless fuck who couldnt pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel. America is being spoonfed bullshit about 'omg terrar' thats not even remotely akin to what its like, fucking hell people, the airport security that is utterly worthless, do you see Israeli airlines doing the same? how about any of those flying out of the middle east. No you fucking dont, and given the hijackings and take overs of the late 70s to mid 80s, you have to wonder, what the fuck are they doing different. Too much of America's response to the threat can be summed up as 'dont pay attention to the man behind the curtain', its phony, for show and utterly fucking worthless. That said, Id rather be stuck in traffic and delayed because of a false alarm, than have to deal with friends and relatives not coming home ever again. Car Bombs are the worst sort, was caught in the blast radius of one in the mid 80s, its abrupt, its out of nowhere and its fucking terrifying. Fortunately the worst I got from it was a pounding headache and some glass cuts to my arms (ps, Im a little cranky right now, excuse the diatribe) |
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See with a car bomb you can contain the potential mass required for an effective explosion. Those signs could parely pop if they were made of 1 d battery and 3 d batteries worth of C4. Barely the size of a claymore, and is not going to cause structural damage to steel, especially when the wave has to attenuate over several feet. Anti-personnel at best, shooting lite brite pegs instead of nails or steel fragments. The reason I harp on the structural potential is that part of the decision to elevate the terror threat level was the emplacement of the devices on on key structural points, like bridges. Shaped charges work because they focus the blast wave by shaping the charge to focus the shockwave. Having even a few inches of highly compressible air in the path of the shockwave will highly attenuate the wave, rendering the charge more and more useless at an exponential rate. If this was a terror attack, anyone even marginally competent should have realize the potential threat was about as large as the threat to take down the brooklyn bridge with butane torches. By overreacting in this manner you are only exposing a MAJOR weakness in your security system, namely that provoking overreactions you effectively paralyze the overall system with a much greater efficiency than you do by actually attacking it. A terrorist now only needs 10 dollars of wires, batteries and duct tape to shut down a city for a day, rather than actually need ing to know how to make explosives, or anything like that. This does not make anyone safer, except for the doltish goons who use this as a pretext to justify their expensive security services. The Japanese may make all the cars, the Chinese all the clothes and the French all the, um, Frenchmen. But damn if we don't lead the world in catchphrases.
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Did you read the link I posted bago? Nobody over reacted. |
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uncovered; a vast network of bomb-making labs. Jean-Robert Bourdage ... Hot dog vendor
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You know what I love? How the (supposedly) knowledgeable, free thinkers out there who mock Boston's response have latched onto the "light brite" meme like goood little lemmings. I mean, FFS, bago. Right before your post there's a guy who has lived through what could have happened in Boston, and spent a good portion of his life in a country constantly under terrorist attacks, and you ramble on like he's not even there. Listen for once. |
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i don't think the PD overreacted, but everyone else sure has. Jean-Robert Bourdage ... Hot dog vendor
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bago? Listen? Hahahahahaha. Drow are elves but evil. And you know they are evil because of their black skin, and because they are run by women. --Foodbunny
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bago? Listen? Hahahahahaha. QFT Even I know what crossing the Rubicon means, and I know fuck all about American history. -m0nty
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Standard bomb disposal methods involving minimizing risk to the agents involved? Yes. What I provided was a specific refutation to stupid policy. I admitted that car bombs should follow such policies, because they are massive enough to convert energy to structurally threatening levels. My argument is that a 5lb bomb should not be treated the same way as a 200 lb bomb. It's a classic zero tolerance argument. If you are in the bomb disposal business and can't make that call, you are in the wrong business. Should a cop block all traffic for 10 blocks and put out an APB for jaywalking? No. For a guy armed with an AR-15 that just shot 5 people? Yes. If you can't make that distinction you shouldn't be a cop. The Japanese may make all the cars, the Chinese all the clothes and the French all the, um, Frenchmen. But damn if we don't lead the world in catchphrases.
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Or, to cite the article Warren linked: their general attitude is that every time they mobilize and respond to something that turns out to be nothing, it makes them just a little bit better-prepared to deal with something that turns out to be something. To treat all somethings as the same thing is stupid. There was time for analysis. The analysis was flawed. I showed why it was flawed. Do want to argue with the analysis, or do you want to argue that there should be no analysis as soon as somebody says bomb? The Japanese may make all the cars, the Chinese all the clothes and the French all the, um, Frenchmen. But damn if we don't lead the world in catchphrases.
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It's awesome to hear from the law enforcement division of Microsoft. "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
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I think the police should blow up more advertising. MP3 Of The Week: The Surgens - Twisted Brain.mp3 (?)
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I'd be happy if they just blew up advertisers. "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
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I agree with bago. |
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You going for repeat TOTY? |
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I'm just trying to live up to the fine example set by my hero and Officially Official 2006 PlanetCrap Troll Of The Year, Warren Marshall. |
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i don't think the PD overreacted, but everyone else sure has. I agree with what Leslie wrote. Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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#132 by Mister Nutty What the hell are you talking about? Sarah Silverman. I know who you're talking about, I'm trying to figure out why you wouldn't think her movie was funny. Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP Johnsen Family
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Think about who said it. Drow are elves but evil. And you know they are evil because of their black skin, and because they are run by women. --Foodbunny
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It's awesome to hear from the law enforcement division of Microsoft. Exactly. |
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I'm surprised he's not saying the cops planted those there themselves. I watched Aliens, and I didn't even get a lousy t-shirt.
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Not just the law enforcement division of Microsoft, but the rent-a-cop bomb squad division. |^^^^^^^^^^^^ |||__
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#129 by Leslie Nassar So apparently Microsoft has made Vista incompatible with iTunes; you can't authorize the computer to play tracks bought from the iTunes Store. Nice. Because you know apple hasn't had a year of feature complete Vista beta to correct compatibility problems. Of course the same thing applies to most companies really. |
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I find Sarah Silverman to be funny in general, but everything in her movie, including the standup bits, was just fucking horrible. Not a single laugh through the whole thing. Right before your post there's a guy who has lived through what could have happened in Boston, and spent a good portion of his life in a country constantly under terrorist attacks, and you ramble on like he's not even there. Goddamn, I'm so sick of people Whatifing and saying "what could have happened". Who gives a fuck what they would have done back in Northern Ireland during the IRA years? 9/11 was an isolated event, WE do not live in a country constantly under terrorist attack. Stop acting like we do you fucking PUSSY ASS PUSSIES. The Boston police vastly overreacted. The media overreacted even more. Now everyone looks so foolish that SOMEONE HAS TO PAY. But the whole event was a clusterfuck to begin with. Bunch of fucking pansy-ass-panises jumping at your own shadows. YHBT. YHL. HAND
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I still think Warren might be a bomb. |
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Because you know apple hasn't had a year of feature complete Vista beta to correct compatibility problems. Of course the same thing applies to most companies really. iTunes ran great on the last beta I tried, so go figure. Jean-Robert Bourdage ... Hot dog vendor
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The Boston Police did the right fucking thing. Any suspect device, should be treated with the same 'oh shit' reaction, just the same fucking way that you treat a firearm as -always- being loaded. They are not something to fuck with. 1-3 oz of semtex going off behind that board, would generate enough kinetic energy and shrapnel to destroy your face, blind you and tear off most of your fingers. Terrorism isnt about knocking down buildings, its about fucking with people on the most basic of levels, its making putting explosives with a tilt switch inside a doll, its about mailing people a few ounces of plastique covered in thumbtacks and paperclips. People are now going out and taking these things before the Police and pull them in, then shoving them on EBAY - money on youre going to see a copycat action, and one of them IS going to be explosive. A group of people, got past minimum wage security and barely trained staff to board airplanes with box cutters, which they used to take over the plane. Hijacking training from the 80s says to sit your ass down, wait til they land and negotiate your way off the plane, or wait for Delta Squad to come rescue you. They didnt land, for all the prior threats to blow themselves up or die in the name of their cause that happened in the hijackings, these people were prepared and willing to die for their cause, in fact, that was the goal from the outset. They took the planes, the people reacted like sheep and were kept at bay by the cabin crew, and the planes were flown into buildings. Thus far, this has been the only successful AL Quaeda attack on the United states of america. Can you name any foiled plots, bar the lunatic shoe bomber? Can you name another airline that has had a hijacking? If you looked at the list of those planes hijacked, would you be surprised to see that american airlines were amongst the most hijacked, and Swiss air and Tel Air were never hijacked (hint, they pay their security and staff really well and conduct almost continual training). Now airport security is restricting what you can carry, take off your shoes, no liquids of x-y-z, creating nothing but delays and a false sense of security. The planes arent any safer, they arent any less vunerable to take over or damage, the groundcrews are still fucking slackasses who barely have to pass security screenings to get their jobs, and theyre still paid crappy wages. Current airport security is nothing but smoke and mirrors to pacifiy the sheep. Yet when people see a proper and intelligent response to a suspect device, theyre screaming holywood bullshit. Overkill and unecessary ? Fuck no. Tell you what, next time someone gets a suspect device, you volunteer to go up to and fuck with it, see how brave and smart you feel then. Multimeters running tests is holywood nonsense, cutting the red wire is largely bullshit, even dealing with unexploded world war 2 munitions the course is normally to render teh device incapable of function or destroying it in place. On larger bombs, they may defuse them in place, but this is unlikely to occur in continental USA. The goal of the bomb disposal tech is to render the device harmless, without ever having to put a human in harms way. Here, read up a bit more - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomb_disposal Ive been present when various Army Tactical Ordinance officers have had to do their work, the wheelbarrow units were impressive to say the least (especially to a 12 year old). That picture, the longest walk, is off the Crumlin Road, West belfast, just up past the Falls and Shankill road, a prime bombing target for the PIRA. Sharper eyes might note the red white & blue kerbstones, indicating its a loyalist/unionist area, and up until recently, several of the 'brit centric' political groups had offices there. You can see theyve already sent the wheelbarrow in and its blown the back of that van open and had a look inside before the ATO approaches. Its also parked infront of what looks to be a parochial hall (cream colour, long windows), which more than likely doubled as an Orange Hall and thus a double target. The whole area is less than 2 miles from the Mater hospital which was more RC orientated, with the Royal Victoria being 'brit' and the City hospital, just off the Lisburn road being cross community. fuck.. even seeing that mess of a picture has made me homesick. |
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Like I said, Warren is probably a bomb. |
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http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn10971-cheap-safe-drug-kills-most-cancers.html It sounds almost too good to be true: a cheap and simple drug that kills almost all cancers by switching off their “immortality”. The drug, dichloroacetate (DCA), has already been used for years to treat rare metabolic disorders and so is known to be relatively safe. Whats this, a patent free drug has a huge response in fighting most of the common killer cancers, and it largely slips past with barely a blip on the radar. Fucking, fuckity fuck. Oh, wait... tis patent free, which means none of the greedy cunt drugCos have any interest in it as it wont make them BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLIONS. |
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Of course it's largely under the radar because it's far too early to really report it (although following the links says it has gotten some mass media coverage and the New Scientist article made the rounds a few weeks ago). Judging by some of the entries in the FAQ the researchers may not want massive attention paid to it just yet either. Most of them are trying to talk people out of running out to find DCA until human trials are done. |
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Marsh, Thanks. I've never been to London before so the most obvious tourist stuff is good for me. Also, the price of food is not a concern as the whole trip is expensed. World of Warcraft is a pie eating contest where the reward is more pie.
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Any suspect device, should be treated with the same 'oh shit' reaction, just the same fucking way that you treat a firearm as -always- being loaded. They are not something to fuck with. So, what is a suspect device? Anything seen in public that uses batteries and wires? Wow, the Boston Police are going to be really busy blowing all that suspect shit up! Oh, wait... tis patent free, which means none of the greedy cunt drugCos have any interest in it as it wont make them BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLIONS. The headline on the New Scientist article is at odds with the content of the article, and also with reality in that DCA needs a lot more testing to know both if its safe and if it actually does shit against "most cancers". Ya fukkin moran mick! YHBT. YHL. HAND
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http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=180349 Oh look, the police also found some fake pipe bombs around the same time as those led things. But obviously, any idiot could tell they were fakes, why sic the bomb squad........ |
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1-3 oz of semtex going off behind that board, would generate enough kinetic energy and shrapnel to destroy your face, blind you and tear off most of your fingers. Those signs could parely pop if they were made of 1 d battery and 3 d batteries worth of C4. Barely the size of a claymore, and is not going to cause structural damage to steel, especially when the wave has to attenuate over several feet. Anti-personnel at best, shooting lite brite pegs instead of nails or steel fragments. The reason I harp on the structural potential is that part of the decision to elevate the terror threat level was the emplacement of the devices on on key structural points, like bridges. Reading. Learn it motherfucker! The Japanese may make all the cars, the Chinese all the clothes and the French all the, um, Frenchmen. But damn if we don't lead the world in catchphrases.
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the police also found some fake pipe bombs around the same time as those led things. If you are in the bomb disposal business and can't make that call, you are in the wrong business. I hate repeating myself, except when I'm drunk. The Japanese may make all the cars, the Chinese all the clothes and the French all the, um, Frenchmen. But damn if we don't lead the world in catchphrases.
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