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The Great PlanetCrap Writing Experiment VIII
January 8th 2007, 18:50 CET by chris

That's right kids, I'm unilaterally deciding to resurrect the Great PC Writing Experiment, because it's time for me to write a new short story anyway, so why not let everyone else get in on the fun? So this is the thread for "PCWrite 8: PCWrite Takes Manhattan" (no doubt to be followed by "PCWrite Goes to Hell," "PCWrite X," and "Freddy vs. PCWrite").

Because I'm acting as a power-maddened dictator in this endeavour, there will be no voting for themes, and anyone who bitches about my choice of theme has the following options: shut the fuck up and participate, or shut the fuck up and don't participate! This, my friends, is what democracy looks like. We'll have until the end of February -- a nice long time, but not TOO long -- to contemplate the theme and draft up our stories.

I hate long topic descriptions so I'll wrap this up. Here's your theme: Twists and Turns.

Simple and open-ended. Go nuts.
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#18 by CheesyPoof
2007-01-08 19:22:07
Speaking of Trump, I didn't watch the last couple of seasons of The Apprentice. They really needed a break for the show, they were doing it too quickly between seasons. I watched last night, but if I'm going to watch it anymore it'll be off of the DVR. There was a commercial every 5 min. I'm glad this task wasn't an advertisement for a sponsor, but it looks like that'll change in the future.
#19 by assemblerer
2007-01-08 19:23:35
http://blog.nopdesign.sk
There are 1 stories submitted for this theme.


My favourite software feature/bug.

Another boring blog. INTERNET IS SERIOSE BUSSINES. Nigerian princes will tell you.
#20 by yotsuya
2007-01-08 19:25:40
Poof-

The quality of the tasks has really gone down over the past few seasons, in my opinion. They used to do some really cool/interesting things (inventing new Pepsi bottles/Pontiac advertisments, for example), now they're washing cars. I don't mind sponsor tie-in tasks.

I watched Aliens, and I didn't even get a lousy t-shirt.
#21 by Matt Perkins
2007-01-08 19:55:46
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
To be perfectly fair, doesn't EVERY story have twists and turns? Is that what makes it a story?

#22 by Marsh Davies
2007-01-08 19:56:26
www.verbalchilli.com
No.

#23 by Matt Perkins
2007-01-08 19:57:36
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Thank you for that very detailed and helpful answer.

#24 by Matt Perkins
2007-01-08 19:58:33
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Either way, thanks for taking the reigns and gettin 'er done, chris. I've been jonesing for one of these. I was just thinking about this weekend.

#25 by jjohnsen
2007-01-08 20:06:14
http://www.johnsenclan.com
I like the sponsered tasks, mostly because I like to see how disappointed the executives get about the contestant ideas.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#26 by chris
2007-01-08 20:06:59
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
I am hoping the stories will have more directly evoked twists and turns than simply "plot is happening, so technically there are twists and turns"

I'm already cogitatin' and formulatin' away on what I'm going to write.

-chris

#27 by Matt Perkins
2007-01-08 20:16:25
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Yeah, I'm trying to come up with something already... Maybe some detective story, or futuristic thriller. Hmmm...

#28 by yotsuya
2007-01-08 20:17:24
I like the sponsered tasks, mostly because I like to see how disappointed the executives get about the contestant ideas.

Amen.

I watched Aliens, and I didn't even get a lousy t-shirt.
#29 by CheesyPoof
2007-01-08 20:38:57
The quality of the tasks has really gone down over the past few seasons, in my opinion. They used to do some really cool/interesting things (inventing new Pepsi bottles/Pontiac advertisments, for example), now they're washing cars. I don't mind sponsor tie-in tasks.

I don't like to feel like I'm watching an extended commercial. I liked the car wash thing because it's a relatively easy task that's requires several disciplines to be used as a team to be effective (e.g. sales, marketing, negotiation). Whereas next weeks task is going to suck. Designing swimsuits? Please. What does anyone there have to do with designing swimsuits? It's not in anyone's core competency.
#30 by assemblerer
2007-01-08 20:57:00
http://blog.nopdesign.sk
Oh yeah, they're going to need whole division of brains for designing new holes in those ridiculously huge and all-covering swimwear average girls wear.

Another boring blog. INTERNET IS SERIOSE BUSSINES. Nigerian princes will tell you.
#31 by jjohnsen
2007-01-08 21:13:26
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Here's how you design swimsuits for women.  Find out what the local laws are for nudity, and get as close as you can.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#32 by assemblerer
2007-01-08 21:41:57
http://blog.nopdesign.sk
..and you'll end up with swimsuits that were trendy 10 years ago.

Another boring blog. INTERNET IS SERIOSE BUSSINES. Nigerian princes will tell you.
#33 by yotsuya
2007-01-08 22:38:19
Whereas next weeks task is going to suck. Designing swimsuits? Please. What does anyone there have to do with designing swimsuits? It's not in anyone's core competency.

While I would agree with you that designing swimsuits is kinda goofy, marketing them would not be. It'll be interesting to see how they approach the task.

I watched Aliens, and I didn't even get a lousy t-shirt.
#34 by Shadarr
2007-01-09 02:45:29
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I noticed while I was in a bookstore that the new Robert Jordan book is out.  Anyone read it?  Worth picking up?  Keep in mind that I read a lot of crap, and the only series I've intentionally quit to avoid suckage was Terry Goodkind.

You are a fucking tard, bago. -Greg
#35 by Shadarr
2007-01-09 02:45:48
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I should say, out in paperback.  Obviously it's been in print for ages.

You are a fucking tard, bago. -Greg
#36 by Matt Perkins
2007-01-09 02:47:24
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
The latest Jordan book is decent if you read the others. Things happen, which is more than I can say for some of the previous ones.

I pretty much look at Jordan now as I've started, I might as well finish and see what happens.

The last book though, lots of things happen...what that is exactly? I think I've blocked it from my mind.

#37 by m0nty
2007-01-09 02:50:17
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I am reading Iron Sunrise by Charles Stross. I hadn't read the previous book in the series, Singularity Sky. So far, my mini-review is that it feels a tad too much like Jon Courtenay Grimwood and not enough like Neal Stephenson for my taste. Like JCG, Stross is trying too hard to be cyberpunk.
#38 by Shadarr
2007-01-09 02:54:25
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I pretty much look at Jordan now as I've started, I might as well finish and see what happens.

Me too, I have a real hard time quitting a series.  I'll probably pick it up then.

You are a fucking tard, bago. -Greg
#39 by Squeaky
2007-01-09 02:57:31
I just started reading A Fire Upon the Deep, by Vernor Vinge. So far (I'm only 100 pages or so into it), it's been kickass.

#40 by Squeaky
2007-01-09 02:59:34
Also: I get around not having to finish the Wheel of Time books by never having started them. I read about 50 pages of the first one and never bothered finishing it.

#41 by Funkdrunk
2007-01-09 03:03:20
jflavius@bellatlantic.net
Squeaky

I did the same.  I ran into a friend of mine in the bookstore who swore by the series, I picked up the first one, and hated it.  I asked him later how he liked it, and his response was "Oh, it doesn't get good until the 4th book or so.."

I so wanted to beat him in the head.

Funk.

#42 by Shadarr
2007-01-09 03:12:52
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I enjoyed about the first six books, and then it got in a rut.

A Fire Upon The Deep is indeed kickass.  One of the best scifi books ever written.

You are a fucking tard, bago. -Greg
#43 by m0nty
2007-01-09 03:25:20
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Make sure you also get the sequel, Squeaky.
#44 by Hugin
2007-01-09 03:25:35
lmccain@nber.org
Robert Jordan is never worth checking out. Never.

Never.

No.
#45 by Squeaky
2007-01-09 04:06:03
On the flip side, the Malazan Book of the Fallen is the greatest fantasy series ever.

#46 by Leslie Nassar
2007-01-09 04:09:18
WSJ is reporting an Apple-Cingular deal.  Excitement!

Jean-Robert Bourdage ... Hot dog vendor
#47 by None-1a
2007-01-09 04:54:11
I know I just creamed myself over the thought of all the products/services apple could bring to a cell phone...oh wait no I didn't since if I cared I'd already have a razr or one of verizon's vcast offerings.
#48 by Leslie Nassar
2007-01-09 05:05:59
dear diary, none-1a doesn't care about cellphones!

Jean-Robert Bourdage ... Hot dog vendor
#49 by Shadarr
2007-01-09 05:06:02
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
On the flip side, the Malazan Book of the Fallen is the greatest fantasy series ever.

I'm not making the same mistake with it that I did with George RR Martin.  I'm waiting for the whole thing to be done before I start the first one.

You are a fucking tard, bago. -Greg
#50 by Charles
2007-01-09 05:58:27
www.bluh.org
On the flip side, the Malazan Book of the Fallen is the greatest fantasy series ever.


SECONDED.  I have a hard time stomaching anything else now.  It all just seems to trite, compared to the gritty and real world that Erikson has crafted.  On top of that, it's obvious that Erikson knows the story of the series and where it's going, as it's planned for ten books, they've all been named, and if you go back and re-read the series, it's pretty obvious he knew from the start what was going to happen when.  

Absolutely awesome.


Oh, and chris rocks.  I've been thinking recently that I'd like to pick up writing again.  Hopefully I can dust off my rusty gears.

Videogames!  Why waste good technology on science and medicine?
#51 by LPMiller
2007-01-09 05:59:14
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
The last wheel of time book is pretty good. Looks like he's out of his rut and working towards finishing this bitch. In like 3 more books, tops. I hope.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#52 by LPMiller
2007-01-09 06:02:36
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
Robert Jordan is never worth checking out. Never.

Never.

No.


you're wrong in the head, because his conan books rocked.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#53 by Gabe
2007-01-09 06:03:43
http://www.mandog.com
Is Jordan going to live that long?
#54 by Squeaky
2007-01-09 06:46:06
I'm not making the same mistake with it that I did with George RR Martin.  I'm waiting for the whole thing to be done before I start the first one.

At the speed I read, by the time I get to book 6 (the most current one, I believe), the whole series will be finished and out.

#55 by Ergo
2007-01-09 07:54:21
Jordan is a hack.

Drow are elves but evil. And you know they are evil because of their black skin, and because they are run by women. --Foodbunny

DVDs
#56 by Shadarr
2007-01-09 08:03:07
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
And...?

You are a fucking tard, bago. -Greg
#57 by Ergo
2007-01-09 09:03:00
It had to be said.

Drow are elves but evil. And you know they are evil because of their black skin, and because they are run by women. --Foodbunny

DVDs
#58 by assemblerer
2007-01-09 14:36:04
http://blog.nopdesign.sk
Raymond Elias Feist was awesome. I loved his ability to inject the atmosphere into your veins. And of course, Frank Herbert 4evar!

Another boring blog. INTERNET IS SERIOSE BUSSINES. Nigerian princes will tell you.
#59 by McBain
2007-01-09 14:37:05
I got a cat.  His name is Jack.

World of Warcraft is a pie eating contest where the reward is more pie.
#60 by Marsh Davies
2007-01-09 14:39:17
www.verbalchilli.com
Gifs plz.

#61 by McBain
2007-01-09 14:41:33
I'll have to find my digital camera... its somewhere in the apartment, I just don't know where right now.

World of Warcraft is a pie eating contest where the reward is more pie.
#62 by McBain
2007-01-09 14:46:43
Ok, now I have to find the appropriate USB cable...  I think it is somewhere in the dreaded "Box of Many Cables".

World of Warcraft is a pie eating contest where the reward is more pie.
#63 by Jibble
2007-01-09 14:50:17
"Box". Heh. Try "closet". Which reminds me, I really need to re-organize my tech closet again.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 198 lbs.  18 to go.
#64 by Matt Perkins
2007-01-09 14:54:21
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Feist wrote some great shit... though he now spends his time regugating the same story over and over, but the first series he did and the series he did with Janie Wurts. SO GOOD.

I'll try Malazan Book of the Fallen. Sounds interesting.


As for Jordan... OMG. The first book was really really good. The second? Better. The third? Somehow better. My wife and I read each one wondering how he could keep making them better. The Fourth? Better. After that? They went slowly downhill. At about the 6th or 7th book, they had completely derailed, though because your so invested in the characters, you keep reading. The last one did get some stuff done and though it's not going to end when he promised (at said a max of 10, then 11 books), it did get a lot better.

Will he finish it though? I don't know. It's selfish of me, but I really hope he doesn't leave us hanging. I've been reading these Jordan books forever.

#65 by mgns
2007-01-09 14:58:43
Lord of Chaos was fucking excellent.

every victory has a taste that's bittersweet
and it's your face I'm looking for on every street
#66 by McBain
2007-01-09 15:01:54
I only read the first four Jordan books and I enjoyed them, but ultimately their length kept me from continuing.  What is it that you guys don't like about him?  I figure I'll pick them up again at some point.

World of Warcraft is a pie eating contest where the reward is more pie.
#67 by deadlock
2007-01-09 15:06:42
http://www.deadlocked.org/
There's a mascohistic aspect to me that has forced me to read every WoT book so far even though they started to get annoying around book 7 or so. The most recent one was a lot better than the previous few but it still suffers from some of the same problems. The main one that springs to mind is that there are just too many characters to keep track of. That would be fine if the secondary characters only made an appearance in one or two consecutive books but Jordan has an awful tendency to introduce a character (and associated sub-plot) in book 4 and not revisit that character and his/her subplot until book 8 when I've forgotten who they are and what they're doing.

I also find it frustrating that with all of the new abilities that Rand and Egwene and so on have learned (Travelling, in particular), it has never occurred to them to somehow meet up and go 'so, this is the shit that I know, what shit do you know?'.

I guess some people also have issues with Jordan's prose but it's never really bothered me.

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