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Midterm WHAM, COCK IN THE ASS!!!
November 9th 2006, 12:33 CET by Jibble

Will there be even more political scandals? Will the Democrats take advantage of the wind in their sails? Will we finally see an investigation on Iraq, Diebold, Delay, Abramoff, Hastert, 9/11, or detainee torture?

Yes, no, and no. Of course, it's always fun to talk about it. What's up for grabs in your local election? Do you support any candidate in particular? Why or why not? Been a while since we had an actual factual political topic around here, and it's time to get the discussion out of the damned Kerry Wins! thread.
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#38 by Greg
2006-11-09 20:58:28
Huh. Didn't realize you were around here. I thought it was later in the month.

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#39 by Chunkstyle
2006-11-09 21:04:33
chunkstyle46@yahoo.com
I'm bored in the convention center right tis very minute.

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#40 by Greg
2006-11-09 21:15:10
Find your way to John Henry's Pub in Ardmore tonight for Quizzo!

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#41 by m0nty
2006-11-09 23:21:13
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I've been taking great pleasure in reading the comments at various batshit insane right-wing sites like Captain's Quarters, Little Green Footballs and National Review Online. Reactions range from "the MSM lost us this election" to "Bush not being conservative enough lost us this election" to "Howard Dean lost us this election" to "don't worry, the Democrats being incompetent will win us the next election" to "conservatism won this election so... um... yay!" to "yeah... but what's THEIR plan for victory?" to "OMG Democrats are going to surrender in Iraq and give illegal aliens amnesty and kill babies and raise taxes and exhume Reagan's corpse for a necromantic gangbang!" to "We need a new Reagan... um, how about just a new Newt?" to "Pelosi is the Antichrist" to "I don't care what happens now as long as Hillary doesn't win in '08".

It's highly enjoyable to watch.
#42 by Funkdrunk
2006-11-09 23:26:56
jflavius@bellatlantic.net
You're a braver man than I.

Funk.

#43 by Greg
2006-11-09 23:28:29
Mary Stuart Masterson?

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#44 by Gunp01nt
2006-11-09 23:30:32
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Mid Summer Madness?

Item Number Fuck on my agenda? Swoop home like a fuck-falcon and fuck my old lady like I love her.
#45 by Gunp01nt
2006-11-09 23:31:04
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Morbidly Stupid 'Mericans?

Item Number Fuck on my agenda? Swoop home like a fuck-falcon and fuck my old lady like I love her.
#46 by Gunp01nt
2006-11-09 23:31:13
supersimon33@hotmail.com
yay acrotard!

Item Number Fuck on my agenda? Swoop home like a fuck-falcon and fuck my old lady like I love her.
#47 by m0nty
2006-11-09 23:31:57
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Mainstream media, you morans.
#48 by jjohnsen
2006-11-09 23:34:49
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Mainstream Media.  Big media companies like FOX News that support liberal agenda 100%.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP       Johnsen Family
#49 by bago
2006-11-09 23:41:37
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Mostly Supple Man-boobs.

The Japanese may make all the cars, the Chinese all the clothes and the French all the, um, Frenchmen. But damn if we don't lead the world in catchphrases.
#50 by mgns
2006-11-09 23:45:14
What's the general opinion on instant withdrawal of troops from Iraq on pc? For? Against?

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#51 by Greg
2006-11-09 23:51:30
Sounds like a great idea! Things are going so great there the troops aren't needed.

Sarcasm aside, Iraq is a dangerous place now, without any US troops I figure it will be a far more perilous place. Somehow I don't see the insurgents stopping just because the troops leave.

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#52 by Shadarr
2006-11-09 23:59:13
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
We should pump all the oil out of Iraq into a giant space balloon, and then leave them to their civil war and pseudo-ethnic cleansing.  The hose from the space balloon can be moved around the world (or there could be multiple hoses) delivering the oil where it's needed, and it would be gravity fed.

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#53 by lwf
2006-11-10 00:00:08
I'm sure Iraq will sort itself out fine, it's just a matter of getting everyone on the same page. And killing everyone else.

Today Officer Coon, Officer Nigger-hater, and Officer Keep-darky-down were acquitted of all racist charges.
#54 by Funkdrunk
2006-11-10 00:02:01
jflavius@bellatlantic.net
Instant pull out is impractical.  A staged withdrawal is best.

Funk.

#55 by Gunp01nt
2006-11-10 00:04:14
supersimon33@hotmail.com
What's all this 'pulling out' talk? Onward to victory I say!

Item Number Fuck on my agenda? Swoop home like a fuck-falcon and fuck my old lady like I love her.
#56 by bago
2006-11-10 00:09:13
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
I came.

The Japanese may make all the cars, the Chinese all the clothes and the French all the, um, Frenchmen. But damn if we don't lead the world in catchphrases.
#57 by Dumdeedum
2006-11-10 00:11:05
http://www.dumdeedum.com
Monty
I've been taking great pleasure in reading the comments at various batshit insane right-wing sites like Captain's Quarters, Little Green Footballs and National Review Online.

I don't know if that Little Green Footballs site is funny so much as fascinating, like observing some kind of strange social experiment.

Well some bits are funny, like I saw a comment saying that some Democrat list of things to investigate was "the beginning of the end... like the French Revolution" and that "instead of executioners and guillotines we'll have lawyers and paperwork".  It amused me that they'd choose a parallel where people overthrew a government comprised of out-of-touch elite and is also something that's traditionally bonded the US and France.  But then, from all the other comments it looks like they really hate the French, and not in a good way either.

#58 by m0nty
2006-11-10 00:39:50
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
My favourite commenter is this guy called Svolich, who hasn't quite been singing the Happy Happy Joy Joy song.

The dems have made three things clear -

Talk talk with Iran

Talk talk with North Korea

Withdraw from Iraq.

With those in place, we don't have to worry about the election in 2008. Washington won't be there in 2008, along with most of our port cities.

Rightwingers are so optimistic at the moment!
#59 by LPMiller
2006-11-10 01:19:16
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
well, that really ain't all that different from the gloom and doom that happened on this board 2 years ago.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#60 by Shadarr
2006-11-10 01:38:36
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I'm still pretty disappointed in the American public, as a whole.  The number of people who voted for Republicans in spite of everything is depressing.

It takes a community to abandon a child.
#61 by Qmanol
2006-11-10 01:46:24
Well, no it's not, but would you say that with the wiretapping, and the torture, and all the other things that have actualy happened since then, it wasn't justified?

It isn't a Fallout game unless I use my pickpocketing skill to place a ticking dynamite bomb into the pockets of an 8 year old boy.
#62 by Warren Marshall
2006-11-10 01:47:42
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
I'm still pretty disappointed in the American public, as a whole.  The number of people who voted for Republicans in spite of everything is depressing.

That's what I was saying before ... how was this even close?  How was this even a question or a race?  People are retarded.
#63 by LPMiller
2006-11-10 02:03:38
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
I'm still pretty disappointed in the American public, as a whole.  The number of people who voted for Republicans in spite of everything is depressing.


That's the whole party loyalty thing, which I hate. I never understood being loyal to a party because they sound like they represent you. On the other side of that though, this was a serious of local elections, and not all those repubs that were re-upped were evil baby killing bastards. Then you see someone like Chaffee, who really was R in name only, and had of all things a 60 percent approval rating, get tossed because of that R.

I mean, I'm sure you have people in your country that just vote the same over and over again. Anything people can do to give up thinking, they will.

Well, no it's not, but would you say that with the wiretapping, and the torture, and all the other things that have actualy happened since then, it wasn't justified?


Sure it is. The other side always bitches and whines and goes on about the worst case scenario. Just because this time it actually was worse than that doesn't mean it's different, it just means this time it was correct. And if taxes go up even a penny, you'll have repubs going, "See! See!" Doesn't change that the bitching will happen.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#64 by m0nty
2006-11-10 02:04:21
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
To be fair, while the Republicans deserve to be voted out, the Democrats kind of lurked their way through the campaign. It will be interesting to see what their policies will actually be.
#65 by Shadarr
2006-11-10 02:13:26
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
That's exactly the campaign the Conservatives ran here in Canada, and it worked for them too.  When you're running against a party that's riddled with scandal and corruption, you talk about yourself as little as possible and them as much as possible.

It takes a community to abandon a child.
#66 by m0nty
2006-11-10 03:13:18
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I'm also seeing increasingly more of this sort of thing in the rightwing comments:

Starting to look like the only guaranteed way that the country would swing sufficiently right again is if we're attacked ala 9/11.

These fuckos are actually barracking for another attack because it would suit their domestic political agenda. Amazing.
#67 by Jibble
2006-11-10 03:27:11
To be fair, while the Republicans deserve to be voted out, the Democrats kind of lurked their way through the campaign. It will be interesting to see what their policies will actually be.

It only looks like lurking when the MSM won't bother to cover you at all because they have a love affair with the party in power. Pelosi had a 100 hour agenda a month ago, but only now does it make front page. Though I do agree with you on that second part. I want to see what they actually do.

That's what I was saying before ... how was this even close?  How was this even a question or a race?  People are retarded.

Look at the ratings for Fox News. "Well, my dad's a republican and Bill O'Reilly said and..."

As for the war opinion, I'll just be happy to have people in control that understand the clusterfuck that it is. After that, I'm against an immediate withdrawl. Work with others in the region to try and reach stability, but stop wasting soldiers on policing a civil war. Slow and steady withdrawl, let the Iraqis become responsible.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#68 by m0nty
2006-11-10 03:44:26
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I don't think there is a way to withdraw from Iraq gracefully. There are too many militarised forces holed up there who are armed to the teeth, ready to Vietnam the place up as soon as the occupiers leave. It was a terrible decision to invade in the first place, and nothing good can come of it.

Something that isn't getting any coverage is the role of Halliburton and other American contractors. If the troops withdraw and things go to shit, won't Bush's cronies lose a hell of a lot of money in reconstruction contracts?
#69 by Hugin
2006-11-10 03:58:34
lmccain@nber.org
Monty, Bechtel is already pulling out, stating the environment has simply deteriorated too much to continue working.  I have to assume that the big contractors will take whatever profits they made already and call it a day.
#70 by BobJustBob
2006-11-10 04:03:34
Nutty, thanks for the Jewel Quest motivation. I passed you and the other guy on my friends list who was even higher than you, putting me back at #1 where I belong. I passed 1.1 million and looped back to the beginning again. Now I'm at 1-2 on the fourth difficulty level with 6 lives. At this level you have to match a square twice before it turns gold.

"About me, around me,
spinning me, galling me,
doublenelsoning me until
before it's begun and after it's done
I'm overwhelmed by Them.
Raped. Defied. Tried.
Lynched. Staked. Despised.
Everybody gets a turn."
- Mark Z. Danielewski, Only Revolutions
#71 by yotsuya
2006-11-10 04:42:00
You didn't beat the game yet?

I watched Aliens, and I didn't even get a lousy t-shirt.
#72 by BobJustBob
2006-11-10 05:06:10
It's got five difficulty settings, each of which (except the first, obviously) can only be unlocked by beating all the levels on the previous setting. So I've gone through all the levels three times now, still on my very first game.

"About me, around me,
spinning me, galling me,
doublenelsoning me until
before it's begun and after it's done
I'm overwhelmed by Them.
Raped. Defied. Tried.
Lynched. Staked. Despised.
Everybody gets a turn."
- Mark Z. Danielewski, Only Revolutions
#73 by Jibble
2006-11-10 05:15:58
Hugin's right, and there's some good info on the situation here.

You'll notice that they say this:

The company has received US$2.3 billion of Iraqi reconstruction funds and US taxpayer money, but is leaving without completing most of the tasks it set out to do.


...but somehow there's no mention of how or if that money might be recovered. It's become clear that they spent more on security to keep their people alive than they did on actual reconstruction.

Honestly, those guys aren't losing any money if we pull out. The government has already given them billions of dollars that they've pissed away and likely stuffed into mattresses (or Cayman Island accounts) somewhere. Also, don't forget about this.

There were no banks or wire transfers to pay them, no bean counters to keep track of the money. Just vaults and footlockers stuffed with billions of dollars in cash.

"Fresh, new, crisp, unspent, just-printed $100 bills. It was the Wild West," recalls Frank Willis, who was the No. 2 man at the Coalition Provisional Authority’s Ministry of Transportation.

The money was a mixture of Iraqi oil revenues, war booty and U.S. government funds earmarked for the coalition authority. Whenever cash was needed, someone went down to the vault with a wheelbarrow or gunny sacks.

By the time the dust settles, these war profiteering assholes will have made off with billions of dollars because no one sent a fucking accountant to make sure they didn't do shit like load cash into wheelbarrows and hand it off to companies as payment.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#74 by Ashiran
2006-11-10 09:07:57
Sounds like a great idea! Things are going so great there the troops aren't needed.

They should have left the moment they got Saddam. Yes, I'm serious.

"So they should have walzed in, bombed the crap out of various things, get Saddam and then just pick up and leave?" Yes, I'm saying that is EXACTLY what should have been done. I'm getting real tired of the "everybody else is helpless!" attitude that seems to be so prevalent in western culture foreign policy.

What Iraq was was a finger with a painfull splinter (Saddam) in it limiting the finger's freedom. The invasion was a knife cutting out the splinter enlarging the wound in the process. At that point you withdraw the knife and try to apply a bandaid. Which is what they did only they left part of the blade behind in the wound and now are trying to apply the bandaid on top of that. It's not going to work, period. Proof of this is present in abundance.

Immediate withdrawal would probably have sparked into a civil war probably but without any foreign armies antagonizing the populace that war would have been over and order restored by now.

The only fixes that last are the ones that people come up with themselves. A bandaid isn't a permanent fix. Cellular regeneration is.

Money is for poor people.
#75 by Shadarr
2006-11-10 10:29:04
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Immediate withdrawal would probably have sparked into a civil war probably but without any foreign armies antagonizing the populace that war would have been over and order restored by now.

LOL@U

It takes a community to abandon a child.
#76 by Ashiran
2006-11-10 11:26:14
Yeah, see. That's what I'm talking about.

Money is for poor people.
#77 by Leslie Nassar
2006-11-10 11:43:16
that was an awesome analogy!  lol@u x 2.
#78 by Prof. Shminky
2006-11-10 13:06:06
Chop the finger off and then nuke it from orbit.

I want to buy some cheeeeese!
#79 by gaggle
2006-11-10 13:08:00
Even Yot catches that reference now!

The Emperor: What?... Oh, F*$K!... That wasn't even fully paid for yet!... Who's THEY?... What the hell's an Aluminum Falcon?
#80 by Prof. Shminky
2006-11-10 13:09:35
Wasn't he the last person on Earth to see Aliens or something?

I want to buy some cheeeeese!
#81 by gaggle
2006-11-10 13:14:36
There's reportedly a small tribe in south-africa who's VHS is still undergoing repairs, but otherwise yeah, think so.

The Emperor: What?... Oh, F*$K!... That wasn't even fully paid for yet!... Who's THEY?... What the hell's an Aluminum Falcon?
#82 by m0nty
2006-11-10 13:22:43
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Another blog trend I'm seeing: apparently Bush isn't right-wing enough for the wingnuts. People are talking about "the Bush/Chafee wing of the party" as being the problem. Also, a great groundswell of support for Newt Gingrich.
#83 by mgns
2006-11-10 15:12:22
Manager at EA says Gears lack innovation.

In other news, Pot claims Kettle is too black.

it's been raining all night, your grass is still wet
too bad you're not the one I need to forget
one each for walks and for talks, you're miss attraction-distraction
a desperate interaction until I see some other plan of action
#84 by gaggle
2006-11-10 15:31:27
SEEN IT ensues.

The Emperor: What?... Oh, F*$K!... That wasn't even fully paid for yet!... Who's THEY?... What the hell's an Aluminum Falcon?
#85 by Funkdrunk
2006-11-10 15:33:10
jflavius@bellatlantic.net
New Spider-Man Trailer

Funk.

#86 by Warren Marshall
2006-11-10 15:34:15
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
mgns

Wrong thread.
#87 by mgns
2006-11-10 15:40:15
Blast!

it's been raining all night, your grass is still wet
too bad you're not the one I need to forget
one each for walks and for talks, you're miss attraction-distraction
a desperate interaction until I see some other plan of action
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