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Planetcrap: Just to keep it all in one place.
August 17th 2006, 09:30 CEST by lwf

Planetcrap is the best website on the internet, that much is a fact, but has the recent trend of crappers starting up so-called "blogs" taken away from the main planetcrap website? Most experts agree that "maybe."

Not that anybody pays any attention to the things I say, but I can't but feel a little hypocritical in writing this topic, since whenever anybody complains about the state of PC I am the first to tell that person to "stfu, planetcrap is the greatest." Lately, though, I am beginning to feel like the decay of planetcrap is not just another Jokeresque conspiracy theory.

Analysts have observed a trend at planetcrap over the past few years. Topics have become much less frequent, partly due to voter apathy but mainly due to a submission bin that has been as barren as an old hag. Many regulars have abandoned the site, citing family, friends, work, and WoW as the cause. Nevertheless there remains a core group of seemingly die-hard crappers who refuse to walk away and let this site, not unlike PC gaming, die an honourable death.

Speaking from my own point of view, I truly love the culture of planetcrap. Planetcrap is good people. I try to think about what life would be like without planetcrap and all is gray and empty. Perhaps what we're experiencing is just the natural aging process of an internet community, or perhaps it is something much more sinister, yet preventable.

I'm referring of course, to blogs. Many prominent crappers have starting "blogging". Crapper blogs are the thermite that will eventually bring down PC. At first it was just a trickle, but now it seems like every signature links to some kind of off-site content by the poster. It's difficult to pinpoint where exactly this started. Caryn has been blogging for years, Bailey and Ashiran combined for some ill-fated project, and then there was the venerable UAC. Now we're at the point where Px, Shadarr, m0nty, Caryn, Perkins, jjohnsen, jibble, and many more who I am too lazy to link, are all blogging to some extent. In many cases it is innocuous enough, planetcrap doesn't have any img tags, so people like Marsh and Penguin are justified in their off-site operations.

Of course most people wouldn't want anybody (friends, family, co-workers) to come and read their comments at planetcrap. Because it would too much work sifting for who they're interested in, and also due to the occasional discussion of flapping wind-ravaged vaginas and the like. Planetcrap can be hard to keep up with. As far as I know, there are no relatives on planetcrap. So it is easy to understand why people want a place of their own where they can post their comments and have non-crappers read them.

What is perhaps disconcerting is the thought that, with all this effort put into their blogs, our discussions here at planetcrap are suffering. Planetcrap is the place where you know you'll get read, or at the very least scrollwheeled, by a diverse group of mostly interesting and intelligent people. I am not saying that planetcrap shouldn't blog, but I like having it all, as they say, in one place. All the crappers, I mean. I think that discussion is better than blogging, but maybe that's just my preference. I was considering the suggestion that maybe planetcrap users could merge their blogs with planetcrap proper, but I don't think that would work any more than would merging IRC with the front page. Maybe what is needed is a Planetcrap based reality TV show.

People used to [blog]blog[/blog] inside of planetcrap posts, and there was much complaining. But now that so much of the blogging has moved off-site, doesn't anybody else miss it? Planetcrap has obviously degenerated into the ultimate in off-topic and current events discussion, but who is to blame? PC gaming for dying? The Sports Thread? Jibble? Or is it just an unwillingness on the part of some people to contribute, for whatever reason. I don't feel like I contribute personally very much to the discussion here, except rarely. But I appreciate those who do, even the fukkan morans. When there are no new posts I read old posts, and it becomes more and more the depressing the further back I go. Nevertheless planetcrap holds a special place in all of our hearts. It is a funny place.

The problem is you, planetcrap, it's you. Every time to blog off-site, morn weeps.

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#64 by McBain
2006-08-19 14:39:07

Those boobs look like bags of sand. You're a virgin aren't you?

I want to feed my kids mantits!

#65 by Penguinx
2006-08-19 14:41:58

Yes.

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#66 by Duality
2006-08-19 16:32:33

Dude, no. If he were a virgin, he'd be drawing Kelly LeBrock.

Clearly, this just means he hasn't seen his wife naked in years.

#67 by schnee
2006-08-19 19:18:25

The thing is, when you consciously do something that you think other people will like, it inevitably comes out bland and boring. Think of the most interesting thing *you* would like to see, then go to town.

The world is full of bland concept artists that can't do something unique to save your lives. It's hard to find someone with a vision, and those people can almost always be art directed to pull back if necessary.

Embrace your inner wrongness. Give us robotic concept art that fits to some bizarro world that hasn't been drawn yet.

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#68 by Wudi
2006-08-19 19:35:26

If you threw in a wind ravaged vagina maybe noone would notice the shoulder-strap boobs.

Zep--

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#69 by Caryn
2006-08-19 20:00:35

Px, here are my thoughts:

The sci-fi concepts show competency at coming up with something that a game company would typically go for. But honestly? I have to agree with what was said: it doesn't show off the strength of your unique style at all. Those concepts look like Generic Sci-Fi Game(tm). Which would be okay if you were at a game company whose next project is a kind of generic sci-fi game and you were assigned to concept some stuff, but I think they came out kind of generically because that's not really where you're interest is, it's just a "here's something to pay the bills" kind of thing. Which, of course, is what you could face as a concept artist at a game company who might be on projects that aren't really in your field of interest.

But I don't feel like that's good for your style. The puppies and robots, like everyone has said, is where you shine. If you were submitted this to a game company -- I don't know who you're giving this too -- and I knew your background already I would guess that you're applying to the wrong kind of place for you and that you would not be happy having to do stuff that's outside of your style interests.

You're more of a Beep Industries or Double Fine kind of concept artist, not an id Software or Epic or other typically gritty-art oriented artist.

Anyway, I guess that was more of a comment on wondering where you're submitting this rather than the quality of the concepts themselves, because if you're having to do some generic sci-fi concepts, I'm worried that it's not a company that's going to play to your strengths.

Current novel word count: 18,400 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)

#70 by Penguinx
2006-08-19 20:22:34

All good points - which is why I posted here in the first place. I really appreciate the advice. I'm going to do one orthagonal view of the generic cyborg villain just to show I am capable of doing so and then I'm filling the rest of the portfolio with my strengths. I don't want to jinx myself, but I'm turning the portfolio in to Wideload, in Chicago.

#71 by Penguinx
2006-08-19 21:32:08

The thing is, this doesn't even seem like work. I can crank out that stuff in ten or fifteen minutes so it's hard for me to think it has any merit.

#72 by Caryn
2006-08-20 00:47:46

Tee hee. I just saved that Broken Dog image as my wallpaper.

Current novel word count: 18,400 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)

#73 by Penguinx
2006-08-20 01:10:27

Broken Dog is very pleased by this development.

#74 by Anonymous
2006-08-20 01:38:17

Redraw the leg to his left, or is it meant to be dislocated?

In case you wonder.

#75 by schnee
2006-08-20 01:53:11

The thing is, this doesn't even seem like work. I can crank out that stuff in ten or fifteen minutes so it's hard for me to think it has any merit.

Oh yes, artists must suffer before their work is meaningful. I am SO damn tired of that.

I mean, there's a point where you're falling back on learned techniques so much so that you're doing it by rote, and there's using your mastery of a certain style to experiment further. It's easy to be hard on yourself and think you're always doing the former, but when it comes to creating assets for a shipping product, that's a strength. The ability to rapidly and fluently create a certain look will mean your art director can depend on you to bring shit to life on a schedule. Far better that than some conflicted weenie who hits deadlines on a whim.

'Real artists ship'... right?

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#76 by Penguinx
2006-08-20 02:12:12

Redraw the leg to his left, or is it meant to be dislocated?

The cast is over three times as large as his regular leg. It's supposed to be that way. It's the dog's equivalent to Bonk's noggin.

Oh yes, artists must suffer before their work is meaningful. I am SO damn tired of that.

I wasn't hinting at that; that never even entered my head. I still feel like a pretentious fop if I even call my drawings art; I usually just refer to my drawings as stuff or work. And even work makes me cringe a little.

Your words on the subject are entirely logical and I agree with them. I just don't see the stuff like Broken Dog to have any merit so it's hard for me to think that they're worth showing, you know?

#77 by schnee
2006-08-20 02:23:46

I see your point, but I still think you're still too hard on yourself. It's perfectly good quick conceptual art, and that's what you should call it. Anything you do for a final shipping product will be a lot more refined/complex whatever, and that's OK.

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#78 by jjohnsen
2006-08-20 04:44:56

No merit? Broken Dog looks like a cover to a great whimsical childrens story. In fact the style is similar to an author I read to my kids alot, Oliver Jeffers

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#79 by Penguinx
2006-08-20 05:23:04

It's perfectly good quick conceptual art...

Thanks; I'm pretty nervous about giving this all a try, so it's good to hear.

jj, I'd never heard of him before; I really like his illustrations! Bookmarked.

#80 by CinqO
2006-08-20 11:37:21

Without context, the cast doesn't look like a cast at all on that Broken Dog picture. It needs to look more bandagey, or have signatures or something.

He's an awesome design ,though. I'd love to play a side-scroller with him as the main character.

#81 by The_Joker
2006-08-20 14:07:16

Why does it look like broken dog has a vagina?

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#82 by lwf
2006-08-20 14:47:11

Well I can see them now. I must have accidentally reinstalled directX. They are alright, not the most impressive things you've done but ok for just sketches. Show them some of your later painted Fuzz sketches. One problem I have with the painted work is that they sort of lack definition, know what I mean?

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#83 by lwf
2006-08-20 14:48:39

Oh and make sure you show some of your pixel art and fun animations!

Today Officer Coon, Officer Nigger-hater, and Officer Keep-darky-down were acquitted of all racist charges.

#84 by lwf
2006-08-20 14:48:55

Make flip books if necessary.

Today Officer Coon, Officer Nigger-hater, and Officer Keep-darky-down were acquitted of all racist charges.

#85 by Caryn
2006-08-20 17:25:38

So for those of you who want to count your calories and other nutritional information and lose weight, I found this cool web site the other day called The Daily Plate. You can put in a profile and if you enter the food you've eaten during a day it'll track all the related information about calories and nutrition. You can enter your physical activity for that day and it'll figure out how many calories you burned and then subtract that from your daily calorie intake. At the top of the page it lets you know how many more calories you can eat that day to stay on your goal. It's pretty cool and I've been using it for a few days since I've got about 5-10 pounds to lose now to hit my goal weight and since my body has apparently stabilized now on this thyroid medicine (as opposed to my metabolism burning through calories like a California wildfire when I first started taking it) those last few are stubbornly sticking around.

Current novel word count: 18,400 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)

#86 by Caryn
2006-08-20 17:26:50

Oh, you can also choose to gain weight and use that site as a tool as well (I think there was someone here who wanted to do that). It'll let you put in a goal that ranges from gaining a couple of pounds per week to maintaining your current weight to losing a couple of pounds per week.

Current novel word count: 18,400 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)

#87 by gaggle
2006-08-20 18:20:10

I'd pay good money for their service if they could include a scanner that'd automatically tell them what I eat. I've no idea how many grams of what I eat throughout a day, even when I tried for a few days it was a constant weighting of every food-subcomponent that really didn't make my life any happier. And the type and quantity of lunch at work is an opaque mystery with little hope of insight.

I like go-carts! Wroom Wroom..

#88 by G-Man
2006-08-20 18:34:57

Caryn: Jibble linked that site earlier fyi.

Anyway, I went to see Mother Courage last night. It was pretty awesome, if slighty depressing in its ultimate tone. Who knew that Meryl Streep was a really talented singer?

#89 by Caryn
2006-08-20 18:50:50

Damn it. I must be skimming too much these days.

Current novel word count: 18,400 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)

#90 by Hugin
2006-08-20 19:59:45

#88 by G-Man

Anyway, I went to see Mother Courage last night. It was pretty awesome, if slighty depressing in its ultimate tone. Who knew that Meryl Streep was a really talented singer?

She has sung (well) in a few of her movies.

#91 by gaggle
2006-08-20 20:27:00

I think someone here suggested The Forsaken as a movie of watchitude, and.. indeed it was nice. Nothing earthshatteringly profound, but a good ol' vampire story.

I like go-carts! Wroom Wroom..

#92 by Jibble
2006-08-20 22:07:23

Damn it. I must be skimming too much these days.

Wierd. I don't even remember linking it. Probably because I didn't. M0nty did. He can use Google but not CrapSifter. Strange.

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#93 by The_Joker
2006-08-21 00:27:55

What the fuck kind of stupid movies are you morans watching?

How about "Adam and Eve" with Emmanuella Chriqui ? oh god she's so hot
Or "Failure to Launch"?
Or "Old School"?
Or "American Dreamz"?
Or "Fun with Dick and Jane"?

By the way, I saw Windstruck not too long ago. Siem might like it. A bit too emotional though.

#94 by schnee
2006-08-21 00:49:31

Or "Failure to Launch"?

Tired Hollywood romatic comedy.

Or "Old School"?

Old news.

Or "American Dreamz"?

Haven't seen it. 'Wag the Dog' lite?

Or "Fun with Dick and Jane"?

Pale, pale imitation of the original, much like almost every Hollywood remake in the past ten years.

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#95 by anaqer
2006-08-21 00:59:20

Tired Hollywood romatic comedy.

And that's one of its lesser shortcomings. I mean, come on - Sarah Bloody Jessica Fucking Parker...?

zzz

#96 by The_Joker
2006-08-21 01:06:39

It was entertaining.

What the fuck else do you morans want from it?

you have zero taste in movies, absolutely zero. nil. nada. niets.

#97 by Penguinx
2006-08-21 01:14:23

I watched a bunch of Audrey Hepburn movies this weekend while I drew. One with her, Cary Grant, Walter Mathau, and a few other recognizeable faces in a spy drama was pretty darn good. I forget the name.

I'm sick of new movies. There are plenty of good, old movies to watch and they have 99% less product placements and 99% more plot.

#98 by BobJustBob
2006-08-21 01:18:40

One with her, Cary Grant, Walter Mathau, and a few other recognizeable faces in a spy drama was pretty darn good.

That movie is great, but I also can never remember the name of it. I just looked it up (again) and it's called Charade.

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#99 by LPMiller
2006-08-21 01:21:50

Cary Grant rocks.

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#100 by Hugin
2006-08-21 01:34:16

I feel myself getting into a mood to see some Gregory Peck.

#101 by Penguinx
2006-08-21 01:37:32

Bob, I have a DivX of it from my Sage setup; I am pretty sure I didn't delete it. No commercials, 16:9, etc.

Pick a Hitchcock film. Find the leading man. Lookup their body of work. It's usually good stuff. That's how I'm branching out. This way, I find some other directors I like and let it flow from there.

#102 by Caryn
2006-08-21 01:46:16

We watched "Bringing Up Baby" the other night again. It's a fun movie.

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#103 by Hieronymus
2006-08-21 02:02:20

In general, anything by Howard Hawks is a good bet.

#104 by BobJustBob
2006-08-21 02:06:59

Yeah, I've got it on my hard drive somewhere from a TCM recording. Letterboxed but no commercials.

"That probably entirely useless path, that probably lost day, that probably futile hope. What's the point of it all?" - Franz Kafka, The Castle

#105 by Penguinx
2006-08-21 03:45:05

TCM has been running the movies widescreened as of late. I'm realy, really happy about that. I lined up a fuckton of stuff for TCM to record over the week.

#106 by bago
2006-08-21 06:42:52

I just saw SoaP and am getting ready to play dead rising.

We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.

#107 by Squeaky
2006-08-21 07:21:19

Thanks for the update, chief!

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#108 by Penguinx
2006-08-21 07:42:39

Speaking of updates, I decided to do a drawing of a character I've had in mind. Spade, member of the Red Death Squadron. In doing so, I used him for my orthagonal view instead of the generic guy I linked earlier. My portfolio site is in the middle of the nameservers transferring over. By the time most of you will read this it should be done. Whew. LONG weekend. Now to send the link to a certain art director...

#109 by gaggle
2006-08-21 09:15:00

For what it's worth I think the colored version of Spade is the weakest link now. He's got a slightly awkward pose and illdefined details imo. The orthagonal view looks great though. Overall I think it's a good looking portfolio. I was wondering if the transition between images should be faster? I'm not sure it's necessairy, but do you think someone who's in a hurry would go insane having to wait while the lightbox changes size? Just a thought.

I like go-carts! Wroom Wroom..

#110 by gaggle
2006-08-21 09:16:24

Necessary. Jeez.

I like go-carts! Wroom Wroom..

#111 by lwf
2006-08-21 09:41:04

Pretty cool shit, Ray.

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#112 by Penguinx
2006-08-21 14:04:03

Gaggle, I'll look at the lightbox javascript and see if there is a way to speed it up. lwf and gaggle, thanks.

#113 by Jibble
2006-08-21 15:23:06

That's awesome, Penguin. I'm surprised UAC made a cameo...good call on omitting the dialogue ;)

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