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Planetcrap: Just to keep it all in one place.
August 17th 2006, 09:30 CEST by lwf Planetcrap is the best website on the internet, that much is a fact, but has the recent trend of crappers starting up so-called "blogs" taken away from the main planetcrap website? Most experts agree that "maybe." Not that anybody pays any attention to the things I say, but I can't but feel a little hypocritical in writing this topic, since whenever anybody complains about the state of PC I am the first to tell that person to "stfu, planetcrap is the greatest." Lately, though, I am beginning to feel like the decay of planetcrap is not just another Jokeresque conspiracy theory. Analysts have observed a trend at planetcrap over the past few years. Topics have become much less frequent, partly due to voter apathy but mainly due to a submission bin that has been as barren as an old hag. Many regulars have abandoned the site, citing family, friends, work, and WoW as the cause. Nevertheless there remains a core group of seemingly die-hard crappers who refuse to walk away and let this site, not unlike PC gaming, die an honourable death. Speaking from my own point of view, I truly love the culture of planetcrap. Planetcrap is good people. I try to think about what life would be like without planetcrap and all is gray and empty. Perhaps what we're experiencing is just the natural aging process of an internet community, or perhaps it is something much more sinister, yet preventable. I'm referring of course, to blogs. Many prominent crappers have starting "blogging". Crapper blogs are the thermite that will eventually bring down PC. At first it was just a trickle, but now it seems like every signature links to some kind of off-site content by the poster. It's difficult to pinpoint where exactly this started. Caryn has been blogging for years, Bailey and Ashiran combined for some ill-fated project, and then there was the venerable UAC. Now we're at the point where Px, Shadarr, m0nty, Caryn, Perkins, jjohnsen, jibble, and many more who I am too lazy to link, are all blogging to some extent. In many cases it is innocuous enough, planetcrap doesn't have any img tags, so people like Marsh and Penguin are justified in their off-site operations. Of course most people wouldn't want anybody (friends, family, co-workers) to come and read their comments at planetcrap. Because it would too much work sifting for who they're interested in, and also due to the occasional discussion of flapping wind-ravaged vaginas and the like. Planetcrap can be hard to keep up with. As far as I know, there are no relatives on planetcrap. So it is easy to understand why people want a place of their own where they can post their comments and have non-crappers read them. What is perhaps disconcerting is the thought that, with all this effort put into their blogs, our discussions here at planetcrap are suffering. Planetcrap is the place where you know you'll get read, or at the very least scrollwheeled, by a diverse group of mostly interesting and intelligent people. I am not saying that planetcrap shouldn't blog, but I like having it all, as they say, in one place. All the crappers, I mean. I think that discussion is better than blogging, but maybe that's just my preference. I was considering the suggestion that maybe planetcrap users could merge their blogs with planetcrap proper, but I don't think that would work any more than would merging IRC with the front page. Maybe what is needed is a Planetcrap based reality TV show. People used to [blog]blog[/blog] inside of planetcrap posts, and there was much complaining. But now that so much of the blogging has moved off-site, doesn't anybody else miss it? Planetcrap has obviously degenerated into the ultimate in off-topic and current events discussion, but who is to blame? PC gaming for dying? The Sports Thread? Jibble? Or is it just an unwillingness on the part of some people to contribute, for whatever reason. I don't feel like I contribute personally very much to the discussion here, except rarely. But I appreciate those who do, even the fukkan morans. When there are no new posts I read old posts, and it becomes more and more the depressing the further back I go. Nevertheless planetcrap holds a special place in all of our hearts. It is a funny place. The problem is you, planetcrap, it's you. Every time to blog off-site, morn weeps. |
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Very generic and uninspiring. You'd be better off showing them stuff that actually takes advantage of your unique style, i.e. the sad robots and weird puppies and big-headed russian guys etc. |
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There's going to be some of that, too; this is just to pad the corners a bit. Most game companies aren't looking for the weird puppies and russian guys - they'll be represented, though, for good measure. SKETCHBLOG.
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So you have banned me from your website, huh? Today Officer Coon, Officer Nigger-hater, and Officer Keep-darky-down were acquitted of all racist charges.
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Not that I am aware of. SKETCHBLOG.
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Well it's not very nice. Today Officer Coon, Officer Nigger-hater, and Officer Keep-darky-down were acquitted of all racist charges.
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umm..them boobies are all wrong...I don't believe you are married! In fact..I think you are JOKER and never saw a real naked woman! Zep-- Matt Davis: If you had kids you'd learn to tune out the screaming baby and carry on watching TV as normal.
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Those boobs are too high. Everything else looks like Doom(which I guess is what you're going for. I like the metal limb on the lady. Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP Johnsen Family
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Even though she's well drawn, I'm not sure you should go with the Linda Hamilton-style ass-kicker face. You should probably just make her hot. I am not part of the solution.
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They show you have ideas and the means to visualize them, and I do believe that's just about the point of you showing them these pictures in the first place. They should be plenty motivated to tell you where the boobs needs to go once they start you on a project. I'd say they're likely more interested in how fast you can work than how pretty your females are. |
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Oh and, good luck! |
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Ok I still can't access penguinx.org. This is fucking retarded. Today Officer Coon, Officer Nigger-hater, and Officer Keep-darky-down were acquitted of all racist charges.
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Besides which, what's the point of having hunting knives randomly sticking out of your armour? It's a knife throwing cyborg! You've seen those ninja movies? Very good movies indeed. |
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Ok I still can't access penguinx.org. This is fucking retarded. Works for me. Complain to your school administrator or, alternatively, your Mommy. Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
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Those boobs look like bags of sand. You're a virgin aren't you? |
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Yes. SKETCHBLOG.
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Dude, no. If he were a virgin, he'd be drawing Kelly LeBrock. Clearly, this just means he hasn't seen his wife naked in years. |
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The thing is, when you consciously do something that you think other people will like, it inevitably comes out bland and boring. Think of the most interesting thing *you* would like to see, then go to town. The world is full of bland concept artists that can't do something unique to save your lives. It's hard to find someone with a vision, and those people can almost always be art directed to pull back if necessary. Embrace your inner wrongness. Give us robotic concept art that fits to some bizarro world that hasn't been drawn yet. New MP3ot2or3W: RJD2 - Ghostwriter
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If you threw in a wind ravaged vagina maybe noone would notice the shoulder-strap boobs. Zep-- Matt Davis: If you had kids you'd learn to tune out the screaming baby and carry on watching TV as normal.
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Px, here are my thoughts: The sci-fi concepts show competency at coming up with something that a game company would typically go for. But honestly? I have to agree with what was said: it doesn't show off the strength of your unique style at all. Those concepts look like Generic Sci-Fi Game(tm). Which would be okay if you were at a game company whose next project is a kind of generic sci-fi game and you were assigned to concept some stuff, but I think they came out kind of generically because that's not really where you're interest is, it's just a "here's something to pay the bills" kind of thing. Which, of course, is what you could face as a concept artist at a game company who might be on projects that aren't really in your field of interest. But I don't feel like that's good for your style. The puppies and robots, like everyone has said, is where you shine. If you were submitted this to a game company -- I don't know who you're giving this too -- and I knew your background already I would guess that you're applying to the wrong kind of place for you and that you would not be happy having to do stuff that's outside of your style interests. You're more of a Beep Industries or Double Fine kind of concept artist, not an id Software or Epic or other typically gritty-art oriented artist. Anyway, I guess that was more of a comment on wondering where you're submitting this rather than the quality of the concepts themselves, because if you're having to do some generic sci-fi concepts, I'm worried that it's not a company that's going to play to your strengths. Current novel word count: 18,400 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
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All good points - which is why I posted here in the first place. I really appreciate the advice. I'm going to do one orthagonal view of the generic cyborg villain just to show I am capable of doing so and then I'm filling the rest of the portfolio with my strengths. I don't want to jinx myself, but I'm turning the portfolio in to Wideload, in Chicago. SKETCHBLOG.
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The thing is, this doesn't even seem like work. I can crank out that stuff in ten or fifteen minutes so it's hard for me to think it has any merit. SKETCHBLOG.
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Tee hee. I just saved that Broken Dog image as my wallpaper. Current novel word count: 18,400 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
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Broken Dog is very pleased by this development. SKETCHBLOG.
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Redraw the leg to his left, or is it meant to be dislocated? |
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The thing is, this doesn't even seem like work. I can crank out that stuff in ten or fifteen minutes so it's hard for me to think it has any merit. Oh yes, artists must suffer before their work is meaningful. I am SO damn tired of that. I mean, there's a point where you're falling back on learned techniques so much so that you're doing it by rote, and there's using your mastery of a certain style to experiment further. It's easy to be hard on yourself and think you're always doing the former, but when it comes to creating assets for a shipping product, that's a strength. The ability to rapidly and fluently create a certain look will mean your art director can depend on you to bring shit to life on a schedule. Far better that than some conflicted weenie who hits deadlines on a whim. 'Real artists ship'... right? New MP3ot2or3W: RJD2 - Ghostwriter
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Redraw the leg to his left, or is it meant to be dislocated? The cast is over three times as large as his regular leg. It's supposed to be that way. It's the dog's equivalent to Bonk's noggin. Oh yes, artists must suffer before their work is meaningful. I am SO damn tired of that. I wasn't hinting at that; that never even entered my head. I still feel like a pretentious fop if I even call my drawings art; I usually just refer to my drawings as stuff or work. And even work makes me cringe a little. Your words on the subject are entirely logical and I agree with them. I just don't see the stuff like Broken Dog to have any merit so it's hard for me to think that they're worth showing, you know? SKETCHBLOG.
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I see your point, but I still think you're still too hard on yourself. It's perfectly good quick conceptual art, and that's what you should call it. Anything you do for a final shipping product will be a lot more refined/complex whatever, and that's OK. New MP3ot2or3W: RJD2 - Ghostwriter
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No merit? Broken Dog looks like a cover to a great whimsical childrens story. In fact the style is similar to an author I read to my kids alot, Oliver Jeffers Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP Johnsen Family
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It's perfectly good quick conceptual art... Thanks; I'm pretty nervous about giving this all a try, so it's good to hear. jj, I'd never heard of him before; I really like his illustrations! Bookmarked. SKETCHBLOG.
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Without context, the cast doesn't look like a cast at all on that Broken Dog picture. It needs to look more bandagey, or have signatures or something. He's an awesome design ,though. I'd love to play a side-scroller with him as the main character. |
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Why does it look like broken dog has a vagina? Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration. "I fart in THX." - Sgt_Hulka PAY ATTENTION, YA DUMB FUKKAN CACKSUKKAN IGNORANT MORANS. |
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Well I can see them now. I must have accidentally reinstalled directX. They are alright, not the most impressive things you've done but ok for just sketches. Show them some of your later painted Fuzz sketches. One problem I have with the painted work is that they sort of lack definition, know what I mean? Today Officer Coon, Officer Nigger-hater, and Officer Keep-darky-down were acquitted of all racist charges.
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Oh and make sure you show some of your pixel art and fun animations! Today Officer Coon, Officer Nigger-hater, and Officer Keep-darky-down were acquitted of all racist charges.
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Make flip books if necessary. Today Officer Coon, Officer Nigger-hater, and Officer Keep-darky-down were acquitted of all racist charges.
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So for those of you who want to count your calories and other nutritional information and lose weight, I found this cool web site the other day called The Daily Plate. You can put in a profile and if you enter the food you've eaten during a day it'll track all the related information about calories and nutrition. You can enter your physical activity for that day and it'll figure out how many calories you burned and then subtract that from your daily calorie intake. At the top of the page it lets you know how many more calories you can eat that day to stay on your goal. It's pretty cool and I've been using it for a few days since I've got about 5-10 pounds to lose now to hit my goal weight and since my body has apparently stabilized now on this thyroid medicine (as opposed to my metabolism burning through calories like a California wildfire when I first started taking it) those last few are stubbornly sticking around. Current novel word count: 18,400 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
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Oh, you can also choose to gain weight and use that site as a tool as well (I think there was someone here who wanted to do that). It'll let you put in a goal that ranges from gaining a couple of pounds per week to maintaining your current weight to losing a couple of pounds per week. Current novel word count: 18,400 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
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I'd pay good money for their service if they could include a scanner that'd automatically tell them what I eat. I've no idea how many grams of what I eat throughout a day, even when I tried for a few days it was a constant weighting of every food-subcomponent that really didn't make my life any happier. And the type and quantity of lunch at work is an opaque mystery with little hope of insight. |
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Caryn: Jibble linked that site earlier fyi. Anyway, I went to see Mother Courage last night. It was pretty awesome, if slighty depressing in its ultimate tone. Who knew that Meryl Streep was a really talented singer? |
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Damn it. I must be skimming too much these days. Current novel word count: 18,400 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
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#88 by G-Man Anyway, I went to see Mother Courage last night. It was pretty awesome, if slighty depressing in its ultimate tone. Who knew that Meryl Streep was a really talented singer? She has sung (well) in a few of her movies. |
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I think someone here suggested The Forsaken as a movie of watchitude, and.. indeed it was nice. Nothing earthshatteringly profound, but a good ol' vampire story. |
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Damn it. I must be skimming too much these days. Wierd. I don't even remember linking it. Probably because I didn't. M0nty did. He can use Google but not CrapSifter. Strange. Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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What the fuck kind of stupid movies are you morans watching? How about "Adam and Eve" with Emmanuella Chriqui ? oh god she's so hot Or "Failure to Launch"? Or "Old School"? Or "American Dreamz"? Or "Fun with Dick and Jane"? By the way, I saw Windstruck not too long ago. Siem might like it. A bit too emotional though. Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration. "I fart in THX." - Sgt_Hulka PAY ATTENTION, YA DUMB FUKKAN CACKSUKKAN IGNORANT MORANS. |
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Or "Failure to Launch"? Tired Hollywood romatic comedy. Or "Old School"? Old news. Or "American Dreamz"? Haven't seen it. 'Wag the Dog' lite? Or "Fun with Dick and Jane"? Pale, pale imitation of the original, much like almost every Hollywood remake in the past ten years. New MP3ot2or3W: RJD2 - Ghostwriter
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Tired Hollywood romatic comedy. And that's one of its lesser shortcomings. I mean, come on - Sarah Bloody Jessica Fucking Parker...? zzz
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It was entertaining. What the fuck else do you morans want from it? you have zero taste in movies, absolutely zero. nil. nada. niets. Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration. "I fart in THX." - Sgt_Hulka PAY ATTENTION, YA DUMB FUKKAN CACKSUKKAN IGNORANT MORANS. |
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I watched a bunch of Audrey Hepburn movies this weekend while I drew. One with her, Cary Grant, Walter Mathau, and a few other recognizeable faces in a spy drama was pretty darn good. I forget the name. I'm sick of new movies. There are plenty of good, old movies to watch and they have 99% less product placements and 99% more plot. SKETCHBLOG.
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One with her, Cary Grant, Walter Mathau, and a few other recognizeable faces in a spy drama was pretty darn good. That movie is great, but I also can never remember the name of it. I just looked it up (again) and it's called Charade. "That probably entirely useless path, that probably lost day, that probably futile hope. What's the point of it all?" - Franz Kafka, The Castle
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Cary Grant rocks. "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
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I feel myself getting into a mood to see some Gregory Peck. |
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