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Would you get cybernetic implants?
July 6th 2006, 00:37 CEST by OwenButler Would you get cybernetic implants? To what lengths would you augment yourself with readily available cybernetic implants? Assume cybernetic implants were affordable, painless and invisible. Would you get an eye implant that showed you the correct time for the time zone you are in, in a HUD? Would you get an eye implant that showed a todo list of tasks in your vision which you could create/checkoff using your brain? Would you get an implant that enhanced your vision or hearing? Would you get an implant to correct a chemical imbalance in your brain? Would you get an implant to override your muscle control to drive for you? Reading Peter F Hamilton's Nights Dawn Trilogy got me to thinking: "How amazing would it be to have cybernetic implants?" Assuming you could do anything, how far would you go with augmenting your body with computers/technology? If you have a limit, what is it? Furthermore, why is that the limit? |
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There's nothing wrong with being an older parent, but maybe some people just don't feel that that's the right thing for them to be when they're that age. Ergo, is this a source of contention for you and your wife? My husband likes the idea that if we had kids he'd get a part time job or something and be the one to take care of them while I brought in the majority of the money. My husband and I had a talk about the kids issue the other day. I have a feeling now that it isn't going to be happening. The biology doesn't seem to be working out for me, and there's a limit as to how much work I'm going to put into it (i.e., fertility clinics, etc.) before I just say it wasn't meant to be. I'm 34 and getting closer to the age where I don't feel I'm really young enough to have kids. I asked how he felt about that and it turns out we're on the same page: while we'd both love to be parents, our lives wouldn't be incomplete without children, just different. I brought up the adoption issue but he's really reticent about that. Current novel word count: 18,400 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
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My parents were 38 and 36 when I was born, and I'm the oldest of 8 kids. こんにちは
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To add my experience, which may be completely useless to you, to the mix, I started having children at 20 and stopped at 28. I'll be in my late forties when the chillins move (get kicked) out. My wife, on the other hand is almost exactly 10 years older than me, so those numbers are much higher for her. We both really wanted kids, so the age thing wasn't that big of a deal to us... but when we had Cole (our second) we had planned to stop there so when Abigail came along (our third and last...Liz had her tubes tied during the C Section), we had to reset our internal clocks on when we started to get free time again. :P Side Note: Being a parent is an odd thing. We both want to have our kids happy and healthy and want to get some free time to ourselves. It's a balancing act and especially when they are younger, it's a tough game to play and it's usually the free time for yourself that loses out. For instance, we're going to go out and see the latest Pirate movie this weekend, if all plans come together, and that'll be only the second date we've been out on together in about a year. Back on topic: *shrugs* Regarding the age thing, I think it's a matter of making it work if you want it to work. Yes, as you get older (if you're a woman), the risk for being pregnant and giving birth goes up, but it's definitely not undoable. Liz just had Abby at 38... |
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Caryn, it's not something to feel bad about; if anything, not having kids is the least selfish thing you can do in terms of the big picture. If each of your kids procreated like Greg's parents, that'd be a gazillion new humans raping and plundering the earth before you knew it. Like with stray cats, but only more harmful. IF, and I mean REALLY BIG HYPOTHETICAL IF I decided to have kids, I'd adopt. They're already here and they need the help. I'm sorry to hear this is a stumbling block for you guys, but ultimately if he's unhappy with it, you don't need to ruin your marriage over it; like you said, you aren't worse off for not having any children. |
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My wife and I are 36 and we've had the talk a few times. I think I'll be getting snipped within the next year. Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
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Caryn, it's not something to feel bad about; if anything, not having kids is the least selfish thing you can do in terms of the big picture. There is, of course, some sort of official movement now for those who choose not to breed. I forget the name now but my wife was telling me about it. Apparently it's an idea that's growing in popularity. Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
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Talk about conservation - it's the single biggest thing you can do. |
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If you want some vindication on not having kids, talk to jafd. :0 Really, it's a choice. If you really want kids, you'll make it work. If you're just going along with your spouse or because of nature or whatever, it's going to be a good thing. |
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There is, of course, some sort of official movement now for those who choose not to breed. I forget the name now but my wife was telling me about it. Apparently it's an idea that's growing in popularity. Probably this one. Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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Jibble I don't think it was all looneyville like that place. It was something more normal. Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
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There is, of course, some sort of official movement now for those who choose not to breed. I can't imagine I'd want to join a social action group, but if it ends up that all my current friends start having kids in the next five years it probably would be good to have a way to connect with other childless people. Fag up your own internet.
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Warren, how about this one. |
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I can't imagine I'd want to join a social action group, but if it ends up that all my current friends start having kids in the next five years it probably would be good to have a way to connect with other childless people. What would you have in common with these people besides not breeding? It'd be like starting a club of people who don't watch TV. |
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Don't be raining on parades! |
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I'm sure there is such a club already. And what we'd have in common is free time and disposable income. But I wouldn't actually join, because I don't do that sort of thing. Fag up your own internet.
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Artur I dunno, maybe. From her description it was less about crazy, psycho, child hating and more about accepting peoples choices. Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
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My wife and I are 36 and we've had the talk a few times. I think I'll be getting snipped within the next year. I'm getting snipped next month. When my wife and I got married we both wanted three kids. The first pregnancy had a bunch of problems, and the second one wasnt much better. Honestly, the first couple of years for me are 100% stress. The kid can't communicate well, so you're always guessing. Health problems are more difficult because they can't tell you what is wrong. Crying is the main form of communication, and it's not easy even after you figure out the different cries. If in a couple of years I said yes, my wife would want to have a third one for sure. I love both my kids, but I'm such a stress case I think one more would kill me. If we did decide to have a third at some time, we've pretty much agreed we'll adopt. My wife is a little hesitant, her family has had a couple of problems with adopted kids, but I think she'd still agree to it. That's a big if anyway, I can't imagine wanting another one. Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP
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Ergo, you should do it. You'd be a good dad. Blacker than the last banana.
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That Wikipedia article is probably the trolliest one I've read in a while. Thanks for that. Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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I brought up the adoption issue but he's really reticent about that. It's too bad so many people feel this way. If we can get an infant, Jen and I are definitely going adopt a kid. Hopefully one that is "off-the-boat-from-Africa-black". Blacker than the last banana.
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RACIST! YHBT. YHL. HAND
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Nutty Call it what you want, but generally no-one adopts Black kids. And when they do, it's more often the lighter ones. One of my aunts nearly died in childbirth, and due to health concerns they told her that she shouldn't plan to have any more children. She had miscarried previously, and they felt that if she tried again it would result in either another miscarriage or in her death. It was a combination of luck and the skill of the doctors that pulled both her and the baby through. Several years later they decided they wanted another kid. Faced with my aunt's health concerns, they adopted a child. They got the darkest child they could adopt, basically because they wanted to give a kid whom no-one else would want a home. Funk. I am sofa king. We todd ed.
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That Wikipedia article is probably the trolliest one I've read in a while. Yeah, somehow I doubt that the whole childfree movement is full of whiny furries. More likely it's because their sample group was a livejournal community. Livejournal is full of whiny furries. Fag up your own internet.
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Call it what you want, but generally no-one adopts Black kids. And when they do, it's more often the lighter ones. A couple in our neighborhood adopted the blackest kid I've ever seen. I kind of feel bad because she'll never see another black kid as long as she lives here. Hopefully kids her age are better than the ones I grew up with. Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP
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It wasn't wikipedia. Also, my dad was a product of foster homes and was never adopted. He never learned to read or write and was fucked from the start. Adoption is so much more morally responsible. Feel that? I'm judging you all! |
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Caryn-- It's not really a contention between us; we've just waffled on the whole issue for years. I'm reluctant because if I have a kid next year, they're going to be my direct responsibility until I'm 58. Frankly, I'm just a little bit afraid of raising kids. While it's nice that some of you think I would make a good parent, I'm just not so sure. My patience wears out quickly with small children. Ergo is right, as he always is except the times when his opinion is different than mine.--Mr. Nutty
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That's ok, since you're wrong. Today Officer Coon, Officer Nigger-hater, and Officer Keep-darky-down were acquitted of all racist charges.
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Is that the burning sensation I'm feeling? Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
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Ergo, same thing here. I'm not good with kids. I have no idea what to do with them and they annoy the ever loving piss out of me. |
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It isn't that my husband's cold or indifferent to adoptable children -- I don't want to give the wrong impression in case I did. He has a huge heart, and twice on the spot he's offered to adopt or take in the children of relatives (my brother's three daughters when my brother died, and his nephew's daughter when the state took her away). I think the prospect of adoption scares him because he knows that the kids who need adopting most are the ones with the biggest problems, the ones who are too old to go to a home, and those are the kids he would feel like he was abandoning if we restricted our criteria in adopting. (I've told him that you are just as likely to raise a kid with problems just like these if you have a child.) He knows that the idea of adoption is something I'd like to consider, and I don't think he's completely against it. I think he just needs time to consider it more. I'd adopt a child of any ethnicity if we adopted. I have wondered -- and this is going to sound weird, maybe -- if we adopted a black child if they'd be picked on more for being the only black child and being of white parents living where we live. It's a town of 1000 people, all white, in the farmlands of Wisconsin. Of course, providing a child a home overrides that, but it's just something I wonder. Current novel word count: 18,400 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
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My patience wears out quickly with small children. My patience wears thin about everything. You don't have to be a saint, you just have to be a dad. Blacker than the last banana.
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At least McBain's won't be always disconnecting from IRC and shit, fuck that's annoying. Today Officer Coon, Officer Nigger-hater, and Officer Keep-darky-down were acquitted of all racist charges.
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We males are pretty well programmed against caring for the fruit of some other yob's loins. Most adopted kids are lucky they don't get eaten. Today Officer Coon, Officer Nigger-hater, and Officer Keep-darky-down were acquitted of all racist charges.
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I'm great with other people's kids, but the thought of being responsible for my own is nightmare inducing. YHBT. YHL. HAND
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At least McBain's won't be always disconnecting from IRC and shit, fuck that's annoying. Heh, I have no patience for lack of respones in IRC. |
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While it's nice that some of you think I would make a good parent, I'm just not so sure. But I must have read hundreds of your posts online, so who better to judge your fitness for parenthood! I'd adopt a child of any ethnicity if we adopted. I have wondered -- and this is going to sound weird, maybe -- if we adopted a black child if they'd be picked on more for being the only black child and being of white parents living where we live. Paint it white. |
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That's probably why you don't really get the joke. Though your drive-bys are also kind of annoying. Today Officer Coon, Officer Nigger-hater, and Officer Keep-darky-down were acquitted of all racist charges.
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If Ergo can be trusted with The List I'm pretty sure he'd make an excellent father, mayor, or bishop. Today Officer Coon, Officer Nigger-hater, and Officer Keep-darky-down were acquitted of all racist charges.
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We males are pretty well programmed against caring for the fruit of some other yob's loins. WRONG! "It's only make-believe until it becomes flim-flam."
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He's talking about heterosexual males, yot. YHBT. YHL. HAND
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I'm sure I'd make a fine father. My decision not to is 100% selfish. I have better ways to spend my life. Fag up your own internet.
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It's not selfish at all. The world has enough people on it. Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
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That's my opinion on the matter, Warren. |
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The outcome may not be selfish, but my reasoning is. Fag up your own internet.
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We know you're a fundamentalist he-man human hater, Px. "It's only make-believe until it becomes flim-flam."
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I'm with Shadarr -- my primary reason for not having kids and maybe never having them is I'm too selfish with my time. I don't want to shift into a life where my primary goal is someone else's well-being and not my own amusement. YHBT. YHL. HAND
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Frankly, I'm just a little bit afraid of raising kids. While it's nice that some of you think I would make a good parent, I'm just not so sure. My patience wears out quickly with small children. How's your wife with small children? What's great about raising kids with a partner is you don't have to be around them all the time. We have a pretty good understanding when the other is hitting aboiling point so we can swoop in and give each other breaks. And at least for me it becomes alot easier once the kid is 18 month-2 years old. Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP Johnsen
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I'm with Shadarr -- my primary reason for not having kids and maybe never having them is I'm too selfish with my time. I don't want to shift into a life where my primary goal is someone else's well-being and not my own amusement. I think it's great that you've made this decision, it makes me think you aren't selfish at all. It would be much worse if you had the kids and then decided you didn't want to devote any time to them. Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore. -LP Johnsen
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Ergo, the gene-pool needs you! |
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I think it's still selfish, or at least openly self-centered. If I had kids, then I'd have to make sacrifices to raise them well because otherwise I'd be a total dick. But I wouldn't choose to have kids, because I don't see any benefit to having them. They're like a high-maintenance girlfriend who doesn't cook, clean or put out. Fag up your own internet.
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