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Would you get cybernetic implants?
July 6th 2006, 00:37 CEST by OwenButler Would you get cybernetic implants? To what lengths would you augment yourself with readily available cybernetic implants? Assume cybernetic implants were affordable, painless and invisible. Would you get an eye implant that showed you the correct time for the time zone you are in, in a HUD? Would you get an eye implant that showed a todo list of tasks in your vision which you could create/checkoff using your brain? Would you get an implant that enhanced your vision or hearing? Would you get an implant to correct a chemical imbalance in your brain? Would you get an implant to override your muscle control to drive for you? Reading Peter F Hamilton's Nights Dawn Trilogy got me to thinking: "How amazing would it be to have cybernetic implants?" Assuming you could do anything, how far would you go with augmenting your body with computers/technology? If you have a limit, what is it? Furthermore, why is that the limit? |
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What electronic device doesn't have an off button? We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
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any Pocket PC. "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
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And plenty of others have artificial and/or consumer-unfriendly restrictions, so it's not an unreasonable condition to set. |
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The only cybernetic implants I'd get are ones that help regulate my neurotransmitter levels better than my ADD meds already do. Well, if they find a way to better manage hunger signals, I'd do that too. Otherwise, I'd stay as un-cybered as possible. Street samurai were fun in Shadowrun, but in real life, they're tragic wastes. |
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I wants me a cybernetic eye - mine are shithouse. Somewhat more dubious about anything that can actually move, like limb replacements. Difficulties in feedback and pressure control mean I'd only want them if I lost a limb. But pure sensory apparati seem to be a win. It isn't a Fallout game unless I use my pickpocketing skill to place a ticking dynamite bomb into the pockets of an 8 year old boy.
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Except for that power button on the top. A continual sensory recorder would be nice. Logs are a programmers best friend. We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
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WHile all you are gazing at and listening to the hot chicks from afar with your Bionic Eyes And Ears, I'll be banging them with my bionic pecker. Zep-- Matt Davis: If you had kids you'd learn to tune out the screaming baby and carry on watching TV as normal.
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My watch doesn't have an on/off switch. Crapfeed.
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Which is partly why I said no to a optical time display, that and I live quite happily without being shackled to time at the moment and see no need to start. And to roll on from Wudi's post, orgasm buttons yes/no? |
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Why limit yourself to time? Why not have a full on console? We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
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I saw the Outer Limits episode where everybody had a direct brain wireless link to the internet. That's why not. Fag up your own internet.
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I'd go all out with most of the examples in the topic. Maybe not the car driving thing. I'd have inbuilt speakers and storage for music on the go. Ear buds are pretty clunky when you think about it. Assuming it was safe, why bother with the actual mobile phone handset? Just have one inbuilt and hooked up. Agreed all these things would have to have an off button. I wouldn't say no to a heads up mapping system. A kind of futuristic useful version of current in car nav systems. |
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schnee: What about glasses or contact lenses (or super eyes!)? |
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A direct-to-nervous-system audio input would be great, because in addition to full surround sound and no noise pollution, you also wouldn't suffer any ear damage. Fag up your own internet.
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There are direct neural interfaces already for deaf people. We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
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I'd say yes to all of it if it was invisible (except for the muscle control thing, seriously, by that point the car will be driving itself anyway). On/off/reboot (it's going to have bugs, just deal with it) switch for everything. No clock. I just want to be able to lift and throw cars. Unfortunately, the market for invisible devices will collapse when people realize that "invisible" means "I can't hold it up to show everyone how rich and important I am." Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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Cybernetic implants definitely interest the gadget lover in me, so I'd love to have super-powered senses. But there's a part of me that also values not being continually hooked in to a constant information stream, so I'd probably go for the implants that augment my senses, but might shy away from an implant that keeps me continually hooked into instant messaging and the news. I don't know. Current novel word count: 18,000 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
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I'd shy away from anything that makes a connection with any other system via wireless. Too much chance for hacking. Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.
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But there's a part of me that also values not being continually hooked in to a constant information stream So you often approach the world with eyelids securely sealed? We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
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oh shut up. you know what she meant, don't be intentionally obtuse. "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
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As long as peak oil doesn't get us, I think cybernetics are sure thing. It'll start with the eye and ear, ostensibly to cure blindness and deafness (though the deafies don't think it needs to be cured), but will quickly move to a HUD implant. All they need to do is figure out how to make sure it doesn't give you brain cancer like cell phones. |
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So you often approach the world with eyelids securely sealed? What LP said. Your response was stupid. Current novel word count: 18,000 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
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If only there were a deadpan tag. We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
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New spine. |
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If only there were a deadpan tag. it would still be stupid. I know funny deadpan. That wasn't it. "Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
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I'd opt for just about anything that made me stronger, smarter, or more efficient. |
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I don't think I'd get anything. Because anything we're discussing would be first or second generation stuff, and I wouldn't want to be part of the first wave of Cyber Eyeball Cancer or Ultrawideband Brain Reciever Parkinsons or Venereal Rootkits or whatever else goes wrong. I'll save it for when I'm horribly old and my stuff is falling off anyway. My grandkids can be the bionic people. |
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What about glasses or contact lenses (or super eyes!)? Good point on the eyes. I'd get my shortsightedness/astigmatism/color blindness fixed. Augmentation beyond that... no. I'd rather keep it all as external as possible, because look how fast computers have become obsolete. Does anyone here want to become Gunter or Anne Navarre? I don't think so. Even JC will be obsolete when the next wave of tech comes. What price superman? |
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PS - just fired up my new Macbook. The thing is an awesome little machine. |
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Schnee, I've got the 20" iMac on order with upgraded ram, hard drive, and videocard. Woo! |
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If only there were a deadpan tag. Everything in text comes across as deadpan. Perhaps you should've ended with "wacka wacka wacka." Fag up your own internet.
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Might I sugest agin, a skul-gun for my head. Yesterday in Batery Park, some scum we all know pushes smack for NSF gets jumpy and draws. I take 2 .22\'s, 1 in flesh, 1 in augs, befor I can get out that dam asalt gun. If I could kil just by thought, it would be beter. Is it my job to be a human target-practis backstop? |
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Needs more letters. Fag up your own internet.
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schnee, I'm thinking of buying one. But, the glossy screen, the runnning hot thing..? Can we get an amen? Cold silence has a tendency to atrophy any
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I'd willingly be your first gen gargoyle. Sure it might not work exactly as advertised, but I'm used to working with pre-release software. That's my job. We need to keep our arms open, our head up, smiles big and our middle fingers raised.
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Wudi (#19): my bionic pecker. So you're saying you're unhappy with your current pecker? Aww, no wonder the 101st always made you the mommy. |
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I would not get a single cybernetic implant that isn't just a prothesis. Nor would I ever jack a plug into my brain. Cybernetic enhancements are pointless and direct plugs to computersystems the first step to the end of the human race. Not that I see it happen with peak oil and all. This will not be the end of it.
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The sooner the human race is ended, the better. "That probably entirely useless path, that probably lost day, that probably futile hope. What's the point of it all?" - Franz Kafka, The Castle
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yep I'm the hammer you're the peach.
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I'm with Ashiran. I'd never get cybernetic implants and the human race will be in Mad Max mode long before we get to that level of technology. Blacker than the last banana.
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I'd be hugely curious about any cybernetic implants on the market. I'd also be so very careful about what Hugin speaks of, that first-generation hardware is buggy at best. But if that's dealt with, like you may say laser eye surgery today is reasonably safe, then I'd be up for a lot I imagine. Fast easy access to information when you want? Sure. Todo lists, telephone, everything like that sounds marvelous. I've never thought about the superstrength stuff, I guess I don't have that wish.. eh, you know sure, it sounds good. I guess. Not sure what the point would be. The author Peter F. Hamilton has some pretty cool ideas for man/machine interfaces, his Commonwealth Saga in particular contains a jolly look at where it could all end up. Though in that world it's probably their effective immortality that draws me the most. Fuck implants and fuck every other improvements to humans, please fix it so we don't die kthnx. "[The internet is] not a truck. It's a series of tubes."
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If it were perfectly safe and bug free and hacker proof (har!) I'd augment everything I could (assuming money weren't an issue). |
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I wouldn't want super strength for me, but I look forward to the mutant vs cyborg Olympics. Fag up your own internet.
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Would you get an eye implant that showed you the correct time for the time zone you are in, in a HUD? No, but throw in a built-in camera, infrared vision, improved depth perception (I can't see depth), eye-RSI prevention and Friend-or-foe identification and we can talk about it. After I learned of my [Dutch] heritage the rate at which I pushed passerbys off of bridges shot up significantly.
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There has to be a significant value to an implant before I'll get one. It has to provide something that can't be provided otherwise in a much cheaper, easier fashion. The watch and todo list implants are stupid examples, since they sound like what stupid early adopters would get in the early development phase of implants, just so they can say they have them. Projecting stuff onto your eyeball isn't really an advantage in itself. After I learned of my [Dutch] heritage the rate at which I pushed passerbys off of bridges shot up significantly.
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You.. can't see depth? "[The internet is] not a truck. It's a series of tubes."
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I'm sure enchanced hearing and sight would vastly improve your life as it is now. Oh wait, most people sit behind a computer screen all day listening to crappy radio stations. Getting stuff you don't need just because it's "better" is stupid and wastefull. Not to mention that something like enchanced hearing would probably leave people clutching their ears while they beg for the sounds to stop. This will not be the end of it.
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I have better than average hearing. It has very few real-life applications. Fag up your own internet.
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gaggle: You.. can't see depth? I should say I can't perceive depth. It's not like depth renders as black for me. Something with poor coordination between my two eyes (which is how depth perception works). Made baseball in high school a hoot. After I learned of my [Dutch] heritage the rate at which I pushed passerbys off of bridges shot up significantly.
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I have the same problem. No depth perception. It sucks. It isn't a Fallout game unless I use my pickpocketing skill to place a ticking dynamite bomb into the pockets of an 8 year old boy.
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