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Would you get cybernetic implants?
July 6th 2006, 00:37 CEST by OwenButler

Would you get cybernetic implants?

To what lengths would you augment yourself with readily available cybernetic implants?

Assume cybernetic implants were affordable, painless and invisible.

Would you get an eye implant that showed you the correct time for the time zone you are in, in a HUD?

Would you get an eye implant that showed a todo list of tasks in your vision which you could create/checkoff using your brain?

Would you get an implant that enhanced your vision or hearing?

Would you get an implant to correct a chemical imbalance in your brain?

Would you get an implant to override your muscle control to drive for you?

Reading Peter F Hamilton's Nights Dawn Trilogy got me to thinking: "How amazing would it be to have cybernetic implants?"

Assuming you could do anything, how far would you go with augmenting your body with computers/technology?  If you have a limit, what is it?  Furthermore, why is that the limit?
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#116 by gaggle
2006-07-07 18:19:58
Hoorraaaaayyy Matt,  2xcongrats!

"[The internet is] not a truck. It's a series of tubes."
#117 by Warren Marshall
2006-07-07 18:29:29
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
Awesome, Matt!  Congrats!

Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
#118 by Jibble
2006-07-07 18:31:17
Awesome, Matt! Congrats on the upgrade.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 217 lbs.  37 to go.
#119 by Marsh Davies
2006-07-07 18:37:25
www.verbalchilli.com
Well done! Sounds like a sweet position.

#120 by Jibble
2006-07-07 18:40:40
It is unclear how far along the plot had moved -- whether it was in the talking stages or a more advanced operational phase, counterterrorism sources told CNN. No explosives were found.

I'm really getting tired of them hyping the crap out of catching these "terrorists". This kind of thing goes on every day. As far as I'm concerned, it's not news if we didn't catch someone who was in the real planning stages (buying explosives, detailed plans, etc.). If idiots talking in an unsecured online chat room are really a threat to national security, then we suck at national security. Shit, even the FBI agrees with me:

But there is "no indication of any imminent threat to the New York transportation system or anywhere else in the U.S.," FBI Special Agent Richard Kolko said in a statement.

I swear, the media is going to hand the elections this year to the Republicans with all this hype.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 217 lbs.  37 to go.
#121 by jjohnsen
2006-07-07 18:47:27
http://www.johnsenclan.com
That's great news, I'm jealous of everyone that is able to get a job they enjoy.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP
#122 by Jibble
2006-07-07 18:48:41
Did I mention I started my new job this week? It fucking rocks.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 217 lbs.  37 to go.
#123 by Ergo
2006-07-07 18:51:34
My wife wants me to quit my job.

Ergo is right, as he always is except the times when his opinion is different than mine.--Mr. Nutty
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#124 by CheesyPoof
2006-07-07 18:53:00
I want to ge a new job too. I found one in company, just need to post my resume.
#125 by BobJustBob
2006-07-07 19:05:21
My wife wants me to quit my job.


If I was married to a doctor, I'd quit my job.

"That probably entirely useless path, that probably lost day, that probably futile hope. What's the point of it all?" - Franz Kafka, The Castle
#126 by schnee
2006-07-07 19:46:28
david@snowdesign.com http://www.snowdesign.com
I swear, the media is going to hand the elections this year to the Republicans with all this hype.

That's the point.

#127 by Matt Perkins
2006-07-07 19:55:24
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Thanks for the congrats...

I'm really hoping it works out to the potential it seems to have from the outside. Now to just make it the 2 weeks at my current job without killing anyone :P.

#128 by Caryn
2006-07-07 20:00:15
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
Congrats, Matt!

Current novel word count: 18,400 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
#129 by Penguinx
2006-07-07 20:07:16
Congrats, Matt!

Why, Ergo?

#130 by Greg
2006-07-07 20:13:43
It took me over 120 posts to realize this was a new topic.

こんにちは
#131 by Hieronymus
2006-07-07 20:19:12
My favourite part of the tunnel plot was the plan to flood New York with the water from the river, despite the fact that the city is above the water level.
#132 by Matt Perkins
2006-07-07 20:20:06
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
I've levelled!

#133 by Ergo
2006-07-07 20:36:36
Px--

She wants me to stay home and take care of all the mundane shit, i.e. house, yard, laundry, bills, etc. She knows that my job is driving me nuts anymore and figures the change would do me good. We're also mulling over the kids issue again.

Ergo is right, as he always is except the times when his opinion is different than mine.--Mr. Nutty
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#134 by Warren Marshall
2006-07-07 20:37:23
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
We're also mulling over the kids issue again.

Run away!!

Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
#135 by Ergo
2006-07-07 20:38:44
Yeah, that's my immediate reaction as well. I really don't want to start my career as a dad at age 40.

Ergo is right, as he always is except the times when his opinion is different than mine.--Mr. Nutty
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#136 by Shadarr
2006-07-07 20:39:23
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
She's getting to that age, huh?  Luckily mine's still 29 so I've got at least another year or three before she's likely to go crazy for the kiddies.

#137 by CinqO
2006-07-07 20:46:14
Say you're going on a camping trip for a weekend and get a vasectomy. The scarring is minor.
#138 by yotsuya
2006-07-07 20:46:35
I still think you'd be a good one, Ergo.

"It's only make-believe until it becomes flim-flam."
#139 by Funkdrunk
2006-07-07 20:46:41
jflavius@bellatlantic.net
Yeah, that's my immediate reaction as well. I really don't want to start my career as a dad at age 40.


My dad was 45 when I was born.  There's nothing wrong with being an older parent.

Funk.

I am sofa king.  We todd ed.
#140 by Penguinx
2006-07-07 20:49:04
She wants me to stay home and take care of all the mundane shit, i.e. house, yard, laundry, bills, etc. She knows that my job is driving me nuts anymore and figures the change would do me good.


We did that for a bit with my wife. It is REALLY nice to have the household stuff done when you come home and she wanted the break from work. It worked out well in that regard.

We're also mulling over the kids issue again.


My condolences.

#141 by Warren Marshall
2006-07-07 21:02:11
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
My condolences.

Heh.

Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
#142 by jjohnsen
2006-07-07 21:05:57
http://www.johnsenclan.com
She's getting to that age, huh?  Luckily mine's still 29 so I've got at least another year or three before she's likely to go crazy for the kiddies.

Are you kidding?  I'm happy my wife got it out of her system young.  We're finished with kids and she's 28, I'm 30.  By the time the kids are on thier way out, I'll be a spry 50.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP
#143 by Caryn
2006-07-07 21:21:07
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
There's nothing wrong with being an older parent, but maybe some people just don't feel that that's the right thing for them to be when they're that age. Ergo, is this a source of contention for you and your wife? My husband likes the idea that if we had kids he'd get a part time job or something and be the one to take care of them while I brought in the majority of the money.

My husband and I had a talk about the kids issue the other day. I have a feeling now that it isn't going to be happening. The biology doesn't seem to be working out for me, and there's a limit as to how much work I'm going to put into it (i.e., fertility clinics, etc.) before I just say it wasn't meant to be. I'm 34 and getting closer to the age where I don't feel I'm really young enough to have kids. I asked how he felt about that and it turns out we're on the same page: while we'd both love to be parents, our lives wouldn't be incomplete without children, just different. I brought up the adoption issue but he's really reticent about that.

Current novel word count: 18,400 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
#144 by Greg
2006-07-07 21:28:36
My parents were 38 and 36 when I was born, and I'm the oldest of 8 kids.

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#145 by Matt Perkins
2006-07-07 21:31:50
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
To add my experience, which may be completely useless to you, to the mix, I started having children at 20 and stopped at 28. I'll be in my late forties when the chillins move (get kicked) out. My wife, on the other hand is almost exactly 10 years older than me, so those numbers are much higher for her. We both really wanted kids, so the age thing wasn't that big of a deal to us... but when we had Cole (our second) we had planned to stop there so when Abigail came along (our third and last...Liz had her tubes tied during the C Section), we had to reset our internal clocks on when we started to get free time again. :P

Side Note:
Being a parent is an odd thing. We both want to have our kids happy and healthy and want to get some free time to ourselves. It's a balancing act and especially when they are younger, it's a tough game to play and it's usually the free time for yourself that loses out. For instance, we're going to go out and see the latest Pirate movie this weekend, if all plans come together, and that'll be only the second date we've been out on together in about a year.

Back on topic:
*shrugs* Regarding the age thing, I think it's a matter of making it work if you want it to work. Yes, as you get older (if you're a woman), the risk for being pregnant and giving birth goes up, but it's definitely not undoable. Liz just had Abby at 38...

#146 by Penguinx
2006-07-07 21:34:07
Caryn, it's not something to feel bad about; if anything, not having kids is the least selfish thing you can do in terms of the big picture.

If each of your kids procreated like Greg's parents, that'd be a gazillion new humans raping and plundering the earth before you knew it. Like with stray cats, but only more harmful.

IF, and I mean REALLY BIG HYPOTHETICAL IF I decided to have kids, I'd adopt. They're already here and they need the help. I'm sorry to hear this is a stumbling block for you guys, but ultimately if he's unhappy with it, you don't need to ruin your marriage over it; like you said, you aren't worse off for not having any children.

#147 by Warren Marshall
2006-07-07 21:34:20
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
My wife and I are 36 and we've had the talk a few times.  I think I'll be getting snipped within the next year.

Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
#148 by Warren Marshall
2006-07-07 21:35:29
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
Caryn, it's not something to feel bad about; if anything, not having kids is the least selfish thing you can do in terms of the big picture.

There is, of course, some sort of official movement now for those who choose not to breed.  I forget the name now but my wife was telling me about it.  Apparently it's an idea that's growing in popularity.

Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
#149 by Penguinx
2006-07-07 21:37:56
Talk about conservation - it's the single biggest thing you can do.

#150 by Matt Perkins
2006-07-07 21:37:58
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
If you want some vindication on not having kids, talk to jafd. :0

Really, it's a choice. If you really want kids, you'll make it work. If you're just going along with your spouse or because of nature or whatever, it's going to be a good thing.

#151 by Jibble
2006-07-07 21:41:07
There is, of course, some sort of official movement now for those who choose not to breed.  I forget the name now but my wife was telling me about it.  Apparently it's an idea that's growing in popularity.

Probably this one.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 217 lbs.  37 to go.
#152 by Warren Marshall
2006-07-07 21:43:29
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
Jibble

I don't think it was all looneyville like that place.  It was something more normal.

Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
#153 by Shadarr
2006-07-07 21:47:51
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
There is, of course, some sort of official movement now for those who choose not to breed.

I can't imagine I'd want to join a social action group, but if it ends up that all my current friends start having kids in the next five years it probably would be good to have a way to connect with other childless people.

#154 by Artur
2006-07-07 21:51:44
Warren, how about this one.
#155 by CinqO
2006-07-07 21:58:55
I can't imagine I'd want to join a social action group, but if it ends up that all my current friends start having kids in the next five years it probably would be good to have a way to connect with other childless people.

What would you have in common with these people besides not breeding? It'd be like starting a club of people who don't watch TV.
#156 by Matt Perkins
2006-07-07 22:03:39
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Don't be raining on parades!

#157 by Shadarr
2006-07-07 22:04:05
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I'm sure there is such a club already.  And what we'd have in common is free time and disposable income.  But I wouldn't actually join, because I don't do that sort of thing.

#158 by Warren Marshall
2006-07-07 22:04:38
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
Artur

I dunno, maybe.  From her description it was less about crazy, psycho, child hating and more about accepting peoples choices.

Jesus Christ, that is unbelievably retarded! - lwf
#159 by jjohnsen
2006-07-07 22:44:22
http://www.johnsenclan.com
My wife and I are 36 and we've had the talk a few times.  I think I'll be getting snipped within the next year.

I'm getting snipped next month.  When my wife and I got married we both wanted three kids.  The first pregnancy had a bunch of problems, and the second one wasnt much better.  Honestly, the first couple of years for me are 100% stress.  The kid can't communicate well, so you're always guessing.  Health problems are more difficult because they can't tell you what is wrong.  Crying is the main form of communication, and it's not easy even after you figure out the different cries.  If in a couple of years I said yes, my wife would want to have a third one for sure.  I love both my kids, but I'm such a stress case I think one more would kill me.  If we did decide to have a third at some time, we've pretty much agreed we'll adopt.  My wife is a little hesitant, her family has had a couple of problems with adopted kids, but I think she'd still agree to it.  That's a big if anyway, I can't imagine wanting another one.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP
#160 by McBain
2006-07-07 22:52:39
Ergo, you should do it.  You'd be a good dad.

Blacker than the last banana.
#161 by Jibble
2006-07-07 22:53:31
That Wikipedia article is probably the trolliest one I've read in a while. Thanks for that.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 217 lbs.  37 to go.
#162 by McBain
2006-07-07 22:55:30
I brought up the adoption issue but he's really reticent about that.

It's too bad so many people feel this way.  If we can get an infant, Jen and I are definitely going adopt a kid.  Hopefully one that is "off-the-boat-from-Africa-black".

Blacker than the last banana.
#163 by Mister Nutty
2006-07-07 22:56:06
RACIST!

YHBT. YHL. HAND
#164 by Funkdrunk
2006-07-07 23:03:27
jflavius@bellatlantic.net
Nutty

Call it what you want, but generally no-one adopts Black kids.  And when they do, it's more often the lighter ones.

One of my aunts nearly died in childbirth, and due to health concerns they told her that she shouldn't plan to have any more children.  She had miscarried previously, and they felt that if she tried again it would result in either another miscarriage or in her death.  It was a combination of luck and the skill of the doctors that pulled both her and the baby through.

Several years later they decided they wanted another kid.  Faced with my aunt's health concerns, they adopted a child.  They got the darkest child they could adopt, basically because they wanted to give a kid whom no-one else would want a home.  

Funk.

I am sofa king.  We todd ed.
#165 by Shadarr
2006-07-07 23:04:11
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
That Wikipedia article is probably the trolliest one I've read in a while.

Yeah, somehow I doubt that the whole childfree movement is full of whiny furries.  More likely it's because their sample group was a livejournal community.  Livejournal is full of whiny furries.

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