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	Sports lead children directly to mystical flim flam! October 18th 2005, 08:57 MSD by McBain Sports are the evil that make kids strap bombs to their chests to become martyrs!

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#401 by Squeaky
2005-10-24 23:28:06

Is IRC not working for anyone else, right now?

Now I'm a half-million dollars in the hole, and I'm sucking dicks in the bathroom at the Olive Garden. Thanks a lot, Nintendo!

#402 by Squeaky
2005-10-24 23:28:40

nevermind, it works now.

Now I'm a half-million dollars in the hole, and I'm sucking dicks in the bathroom at the Olive Garden. Thanks a lot, Nintendo!

#403 by McBain
2005-10-24 23:33:44

All morality is arbitrary. People are more likely to follow it if they believe an arbitrary morality is decried from greater power rather than other flawed humans. What McBain is advocating would lead to anarchy. Perceived consequeces (whether real or not) do keep people in line. Sure religion is a scam, so what, many people need it to function and there's never been a society without it.

You're conflating terms, which is why I generally like to differentiate "ethics" (human constructs of right and wrong) and "morals" (something decided by some higher power). Ethics are simply not arbitrary. They are derived from thoughtful, reasoned debate. While they are never going to be 100% perfect, they are accepted as being the result of thoughtful human beings doing the best they can. The best ones will rise to the top, like the best scientific work does. Lawyers, Doctors, etc... have spent years deriving ethical structures for their work that can impact peoples lives in life or death situations.

"Morals" are people saying "this is wrong because God says it is". There is no argument with that. No debate. Nothing.

I see no reason that people can't function in society perfectly fine without the latter.

Kid: Because you went to the bathroom on mommy's dishes?
Willie: What the fuck? No!

#404 by Eric T. Cheng
2005-10-24 23:34:48

You take two years and scream at Christians and Jews about how stupid they are for believing in God and see how many you get to give up religion totally.

Now of course, if you yelled at Jews that Judaism is stupid, you would be called anti-semitic and here in Canada you could be charged with a hate crime.

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#405 by McBain
2005-10-24 23:38:36

And his way of doing it wasn't
Using a forceful argument and allowing people to still make their own decision
it was just being a know-it-all prick.

Being a jerk still means people can make their own decisions. He's not advocating people with different points of view be silenced or rounded up.

Kid: Because you went to the bathroom on mommy's dishes?
Willie: What the fuck? No!

#406 by Chunkstyle
2005-10-24 23:39:09

Nope, he's just being an asshole.

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#407 by bago
2005-10-24 23:43:17

Pi will still be pi, even if the universe doesn't exist. Abstractions are cool like that.

The need for an ever-fresh selection of euphemisms about dirty subjects has long served as an impressive engine of linguistic invention.

#408 by Qmanol
2005-10-24 23:46:05

Bloody Stupid Johnson disagrees with you.

"When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty, I read them openly. When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
-C.S. Lewis

#409 by bago
2005-10-24 23:53:29

Here's the long form.

The need for an ever-fresh selection of euphemisms about dirty subjects has long served as an impressive engine of linguistic invention.

#410 by Shadarr
2005-10-25 00:05:58

Pi will still be pi, even if the universe doesn't exist. Abstractions are cool like that.

For a stoner, you have a very limited imagination.

Without me, Internet would never have had sex with the DS. -m0nty

#411 by jjohnsen
2005-10-25 00:14:33

Being a jerk still means people can make their own decisions. He's not advocating people with different points of view be silenced or rounded up.

What I'm saying still stands, being nice to people and presenting the case in a calm way will convert more than calling them stupid. I think the problem here is you're defending how you would do it, which is a rational and thoughtful argument. I'm disagreeing with how he is doing it which is nothing like what you describe.

Bloody Stupid Johnson disagrees with you.

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#412 by bago
2005-10-25 00:21:38

For a stoner, you have a very limited imagination.

Funny. I thought an over-active imagination is what started this whole tangent.

The need for an ever-fresh selection of euphemisms about dirty subjects has long served as an impressive engine of linguistic invention.

#413 by Dumdeedum
2005-10-25 00:35:38

Bloody Stupid Johnson disagrees with you.

It's a Terry Pratchett reference.

And I don't know if there's still numbers and pi and stuff if there's no universe. I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter though.

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#414 by Squeaky
2005-10-25 00:38:07

Smash Mouth? For shame dum.

Now I'm a half-million dollars in the hole, and I'm sucking dicks in the bathroom at the Olive Garden. Thanks a lot, Nintendo!

#415 by Dumdeedum
2005-10-25 00:42:42

I make no apologies!

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#416 by LPMiller
2005-10-25 01:09:04

Pi will still be pi, even if the universe doesn't exist. Abstractions are cool like that.

no, with no universe, you have an empty void. No circles. All equations equal zero. Which is why I offered that you would have math, but it'd be pretty useless. Unless you were getting graded.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."

#417 by LPMiller
2005-10-25 01:09:46

I mean, you'd think a guy that sings the praises of a drug that can knock you out for a week would grasp the concept of a great big pile of nothing.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" — "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."

#418 by Shadarr
2005-10-25 01:47:21

Smash Mouth? For shame dum.

It's the MP3 of the Week, not the Good MP3 of the Week.

Without me, Internet would never have had sex with the DS. -m0nty

#419 by bago
2005-10-25 01:48:34

So you're saying if there is no universe that all equations equal zero? If you build a different universe pi will magically be some other number?

You are wrong. Pi will still be pi. It's just that nobody will care. Abstractions exist without instances.

Does the number 9723498723450234789523908523904859023589058 not exist until someone types it, or someone adds that high?

Do you refuse to do math involving imaginary numbers because they don't "really" exist?

The need for an ever-fresh selection of euphemisms about dirty subjects has long served as an impressive engine of linguistic invention.

#420 by Shadarr
2005-10-25 02:02:16

You are wrong.

Actually, LP, what you are is arguing with bago. Which is like being wrong except that you're right, but it doesn't matter.

Without me, Internet would never have had sex with the DS. -m0nty

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