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Kerry wins election in a landslide.
November 1st 2004, 06:56 CET by Your Friend John Kerry is going to win the election on November 2nd. But the big surprise is that he is going to win it in a landslide. A huge increase in voter turnout among the young and minorities is going to cause John Kerry to win some states that are generally very Red (such as Nevada or Arizona... he might even win in Arkansas now that Clinton is doing his Clinton-dance for Kerry). gg, Bush. Now the family name will forever be linked with the phrase "one-term". |
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If Kerry is perceived as a trial lawyer, then what the hell is Edwards? MechaLawyer? |
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jj - Bush: 207 Kerry: 185 |
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Read the right-hand column underneath the map Deth. i ain't got no love for the east cost
but i do love eatin butter with my toast -DKI(ID |
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Oh, right. |
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That's not to say four more years of Bush would be a possitive thing just that it's unlikely to get a whole lot worse then it is now. Couldn't disagree more. He'll still be a psychotic born again fundie with delusions that God called him to be President. Except now he won't have to worry about getting reelected. Not to mention the previously mentioned Surpreme Court situation and the fact that with Republicans controlling the congress, there could be very little standing in the way of legislation that makes the PATRIOT Act look quaint. Not to mention that if he wins again then our foreign relations will be set back about 100 years all over the world. Right now most of the world hates Bush but still likes the idea of America. If we show the world that his winning wasn't a fluke and a majority (give or take.. electoral college, mumble, grumble) of us want him in office again, well then it is a different story. Anti-American sentiment will grow all over the world. And rightly so, IMO. |
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I'm less concerned with Bush than I am his potential appointees to the Supreme Court. We've got a lot of old codgers that are itchin' to jump ship from what I've been reading. "Son of a BITCH! The casino security just arrested Px. Oh well." - Yot
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#43 Charles There is lying, and then there is 'lying'. Bush saying Iraq had nukes and connections to Bin Laden? Lying. Clinton saying "naw, I didn't get no blowjob, I loves me my overbearing and controlling wife!", that's 'lying'. One is a serious issue, the other is something that shouldn't matter to anyone but the people directly involved. There should totally be a new rule about politicians. Their private life stays private. Whether or not someone gets sex on the side doesn't affect their ability to govern. You are faulting Mank for making a decision based on a future he didn't know? I also don't agree with your last statement. Change "doesn't" to "might not", then I'll agree. こんにちは
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Greg, that post wasn't a direct reply to Mank, just a general set of thoughts that his post brought up. Also, I will not change "Doesn't to "might not" for the simple reason that one does not imply the other. I will handily agree that both things could be a symptom of a higher problem for trustfulness, but changing it to "might not" implies that there is a potential direct correlation, when really it goes the other direction. Something that affects their ability to govern might also result in sex on the side, but the reverse is not necessarily true at all. Do-Re-Mi-Fa-SO-LONG-FUCKER!
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While I would very much prefer Kerry win, I have a nagging notion that Bush is going to come away with the election. I'm hoping this is mostly due to my being surrounded by Bushite idiots all day long. To want to support Bush, you need to be either rich or stupid....now, there aren't a whole lot of really rich people out there, but there are TONS that want to believe they're in the elite upper class. Also, the only thing more common in the universe than stupidity is hyrdrogen. The vast numbers of the pseudo-rich plus the deeply stupid lends weight to the Bush-Will-Win argument. no, No, NO!
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YF He'll still be a psychotic born again fundie with delusions that God called him to be President. Do you actually think Bush really believes in that? Surely he's just grabbing an important demographic. I can't see how he can justify his actions in accordance with his belief, and whilst I admit that many religious persons are similarly illogical, I credit the president with more intelligence than he appears to have. |
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Jeet, way to fuck up your quote. Do-Re-Mi-Fa-SO-LONG-FUCKER!
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I don't credit Bush with more intelligence because his political life would be nothing if he didn't have all of these powerful people propping him up, from when he ran companies to his run for president. |
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The President clearly did have more intelligence than he now appears to have. Just watch that video somebody linked here comparing his old Texas governer speech to his recent Presidential speeches. Deciding whether or not he is acting stupid for the "common man" vibe, or he has a degenerative brain condition is left as an exercise for the reader. In any case, yeah, I do believe he is dangerously Christian (as is Ashcroft). I've met enough crazy born-agains-who-used-to-be-serious-drunks to see the same sort of progression when you look at Bush's history. |
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That, and the glassy eyes. |
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Thinking back, I really would love to see a civil uproar that's powerful if Bush wins, so I don't have to be depressed over how people don't give a shit about this country. |
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#82 Dethstryk Thinking back, I really would love to see a civil uproar that's powerful if Bush wins, so I don't have to be depressed over how people don't give a shit about this country. Just so you know, you're causing the depression yourself right now. |
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Chuckles, What quote? The hydrogen/stupidity thing? It's Harlan Ellison and, if I was quoting, I'd say, "The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." no, No, NO!
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#72 by Your Friend Couldn't disagree more. He'll still be a psychotic born again fundie with delusions that God called him to be President. Except now he won't have to worry about getting reelected. I don't belive that'd at all be an issuse since frankly the administration has blown it's wad and already put all of risky policies that would have formed Bush's second term into action. At this point a second term will be mostly reactionary with round about tax cuts rather then the administration pushing for a lot of new things (basicly the last 6 months or so drawn out). Not good, but far from being pushed into some cesspool of a police state. As for the Surpreme Court thing any justice who isn't a social conservative is likely to stay on through another four years of Bush. So unless one of the more liberal justices manages to keel over on the bench he won't be breaking the current divide. Not to mention that if he wins again then our foreign relations will be set back about 100 years all over the world. Right now most of the world hates Bush but still likes the idea of America. This will only be a problem temporarly. Once every one else figures there's no way short of another 9/11 size event for Bush to continue invading countries much of Anti-American sentiment will fade. Again it won't be good but I can't see it geting to a point that couldn't quickly be patched up. |
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Sadly, Kerry's bid for victory was cut short when he was caught holding Hitler's baby while Bush paced around his jet. |
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And it isn't a plea bargain if you haven't been indicted yet because there is no plea to enter. Surely you understand the concept of analogy.www.dailyhowler.com is the single most important website that Americans should read every day.
"The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had." |
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The Friend Sed "Bush isn't going to win, so it doesn't matter what might happen if he does." DeNile ain't just a creek in Israel! Slowly sinking in to a depression as I realise my life doesn't amount to what I thought it would. - J.J. Johnsen
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If Kerry wins, I want to see people sent to jail for all the disenfranchising schemes the Republicans are running. UAC! Fuck yeah!
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The main worry I have with Bush getting another term is the draft. I know both candidates have repeatedly said they wouldn't seek one, and with Kerry it's believable becuase of how he would approach foriegn policy. Bush, on the other hand, has so alienated this country from the rest of the world, that we're not likely to get a whole lot of support from allies in the form of troops. If Bush wants to continue - and expand - his "war on terror" or "wars of liberation" or whatever Orwellian term he puts to conquest (ok, maybe that's going a bit too far, but you get the idea), he's going to run out of tropps. You can't take a currently stretched-thin military and continue to stretch it out more and more without putting some new military in. Since we're not likely to make up for our troop numbers with aid from allies, the troops are going to have to come from home. All that said, I see stronger and stronger campaigns to recruit volunteers before I see a draft, along with extended tours for reservists and such. Still, the possibility is there, and more than the loss of American lives, what will bother me the most is what something like mandatory service will do to the country. I was fortunate enough to have been born after the 60's. I don't want to wake up one morning to find hippies outside my front doorl no, No, NO!
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SUPPORT OUR TROPPS! no, No, NO!
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If Bush gets a second term, I fully expect the country to be a dictatorship by 2008. Dood.
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Mank vote for Dubya in hopes that Bush would return some semblance of dignity to the Whitehouse. I feel he managed to accomplish that. BUT....I also have to hold someone accountable for the events that transpired on 9/11 Can't have a president who's both good for the country AND is a good little christian, apparently. Hmmm, now which one of the two would be more important? I've had a few dreams where Danny Glover has made a cameo appearance -always in the oddest capacities. Like, for instance, the other night Elvis Costello, Danny Glover, and my best friend from childhood were holding a jam session on an apartment building fire escape. Odd.
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The thing to look forward to here is when Bush truly overextends our military. Once the out-of-country troops numbers soar, the coup within the country will suddenly look a lot easier. |
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http://www.clickthisifyourarestupid.com Chuckles, What quote? The hydrogen/stupidity thing? It's Harlan Ellison and, if I was quoting, I'd say, "The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." Nein. Is Einstein. Do-Re-Mi-Fa-SO-LONG-FUCKER!
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Einstein said something like: "Only two things in life are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not completely sure about the universe." I've had a few dreams where Danny Glover has made a cameo appearance -always in the oddest capacities. Like, for instance, the other night Elvis Costello, Danny Glover, and my best friend from childhood were holding a jam session on an apartment building fire escape. Odd.
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Chester Informative Link! no, No, NO!
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Yeah, I know, I'm stupid. Einstein's is Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Do-Re-Mi-Fa-SO-LONG-FUCKER!
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Which is a better quote anyway, so FUFUFUFUFUUFUF Do-Re-Mi-Fa-SO-LONG-FUCKER!
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I never, ever get to do this, so let me relish a minute..... no, No, NO!
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JEET WIN! no, No, NO!
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But you know, you *did* get the quote wrong in any case. Fucker. Do-Re-Mi-Fa-SO-LONG-FUCKER!
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Hijack! Episode 6 of Lost was pretty good, but it seems to be leaning more towards a soap opera or quasi-reality show now. Nothing new about the island or the monster or whatever it is. Are they stalling time to fill up the season or something? I've had a few dreams where Danny Glover has made a cameo appearance -always in the oddest capacities. Like, for instance, the other night Elvis Costello, Danny Glover, and my best friend from childhood were holding a jam session on an apartment building fire escape. Odd.
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I said let me relish, dammit! I hate you forever now. Also - Dammit, my new icon is indecipherable at the small resolution! no, No, NO!
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#103 Gunp01nt Are they stalling time to fill up the season or something? Yes. |
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They should've put their filler episodes up front to keep expectations low. Like UAC. UAC! Fuck yeah!
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Yeah, I felt like that too Gunp01nt. I mean, hearing about the backstories of all these people is diverting I suppose, but I'm most interested in their progress on the island - an area in which very little seems to happen per episode. One thing that has been increasingly irritating me is that the character interaction seems to have been condensed and simplified until it makes little sense. It's difficult to describe but... you know that scene with Sayid, Jack and Kate sitting round discussing whether to move inland? - It just doesn't make sense. Jack's like, "Maybe we should move inland," and Sayid loses his temper and walks off. His reaction is the result of a much larger conversation that they didn't have. This happens a lot. It just strikes me that they cut down the dialogue heavily to make space, and the character dynamics have suffered as a result. |
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Lost: I did like the backstory of the Korean couple, though, and it looks as though there may be some spooky coming up. "Son of a BITCH! The casino security just arrested Px. Oh well." - Yot
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The overarching story of Lost is moving too slow. Damn, if you don't have the balls to say who you are voting for, why not just say that(Tycho's last paragraph)? i ain't got no love for the east cost
but i do love eatin butter with my toast -DKI(ID |
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It just doesn't make sense. Jack's like, "Maybe we should move inland," and Sayid loses his temper and walks off. His reaction is the result of a much larger conversation that they didn't have. Exactly! Before that, Sayid looked upon Jack as their leader as much as the rest, and now he just throws a hissy fit for no apparent reason. Same with Kate saying: "You still have to convince me", I though she was gonna say that she didn't want to move inland because that's where the monsters were, but she didn't say anything and just left Jack guessing. Sounds more like something that would happen on As The World Turns. There's also a lot of crazy theories regarding the island and the people popping up everywhere on the internet. Haven't people learned from when this happened with The Matrix? I've had a few dreams where Danny Glover has made a cameo appearance -always in the oddest capacities. Like, for instance, the other night Elvis Costello, Danny Glover, and my best friend from childhood were holding a jam session on an apartment building fire escape. Odd.
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We'll see where it goes, I guess. It's interesting that we haven't seen nor heard from the monster in the last few episodes. |
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All that said, I see stronger and stronger campaigns to recruit volunteers before I see a draft, along with extended tours for reservists and such. Extended tours are already the norm (here in San Diego, a stone's throw from various Navy and Marine bases, you can't discuss politics or the military without someone mentioning how a friend or family member got unexpectedly pulled back on active duty a couple of weeks after their original tour was over). And they've already lowered the standards for entry to try to increase recruitment. As I've mentioned previously, I *fully* expect there to be a draft if Bush is reelected. Everyone says they don't want one, and I even believe they mean it (all volunteer is clearly better), but when you look at it realistically, there pretty much HAS to be either a draft, or a complete reversal in policy. And if Bush has shown anything, it is that he's unwilling to pull back and change course when it looks like a mistake has been made. Changing your mind? Well, gee, that's flip-flopping! Better to keep charging ahead! Keep digging that hole! |
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Buth Sayyid and Kate both said they weren't ready to give up hope of rescue, and moving inland represented that for them. I thought their reactions made perfect character sense, and I preferred this handling to a long expository conversation as if the stuff we see on screen is th eonly time these people talk, which is a narrative flaw I hate. That being said, I like soap opera, so I like the backstory heavy stuff. But I agree the actual Island plot is going pretty slowly. |
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Good lord. *Hugin fires his typing fingers into the Sun* |
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Gunp01nt and the people popping up everywhere on the internet. What do you mean? Px - I too liked the Korean backstory, but I didn't feel the whole watch thing was given enough time. It made no sense even when we were told the reason for the attack on Michael - maybe there would have been an argument first that came to blows, but the instant homicidal violence (even for a character who we know to have a violent temper) seemed to be an attempt to inject drama and action into a scene where it was not really warranted. Eh. Besides this, I'll continue to watch it because it is still better than 90% of the stuff out there. It's just a pity it didn't live up to the fast pace and premise of the first few episodes. |
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One thing that has been increasingly irritating me is that the character interaction seems to have been condensed and simplified until it makes little sense. This really pissed me off when Kate thought Jack was staring at her butt. When she found out he wasn't, suddenly she was pissed off, and this seemed to partly be the reason she stayed on the beach. It was as if they'd filmed a huge fight between the two, but then forgot to show it. i ain't got no love for the east cost
but i do love eatin butter with my toast -DKI(ID |
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Wow, I'm really reading these interactions differently than y'all. |
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