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Kerry wins election in a landslide.
November 1st 2004, 06:56 CET by Your Friend John Kerry is going to win the election on November 2nd. But the big surprise is that he is going to win it in a landslide. A huge increase in voter turnout among the young and minorities is going to cause John Kerry to win some states that are generally very Red (such as Nevada or Arizona... he might even win in Arkansas now that Clinton is doing his Clinton-dance for Kerry). gg, Bush. Now the family name will forever be linked with the phrase "one-term". |
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All of the past Catholic presidents have been assassinated? Shit, I want to doublecheck into that. There's only been two of them. Kennedy was one, and I think the other was Garfield. |
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There is lying, and then there is 'lying'. Bush saying Iraq had nukes and connections to Bin Laden? Lying. Clinton saying "naw, I didn't get no blowjob, I loves me my overbearing and controlling wife!", that's 'lying'. One is a serious issue, the other is something that shouldn't matter to anyone but the people directly involved. There should totally be a new rule about politicians. Their private life stays private. Whether or not someone gets sex on the side doesn't affect their ability to govern. Do-Re-Mi-Fa-SO-LONG-FUCKER!
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Garfield.. man, that was a seriously bad movie. this post brought to you by Random Association. To be, turn to page 73 - from choose your own adventure Hamlet
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Agree, but unfortunately the American people are obsessed with seeing the President as a celebrity. |
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Clinton said he 'had no sexual relationship with that woman'. It's not a lie, really. Depends on how you define a sexual relationship. Getting a blowjob from a slutty lady is not a relationship by my standards. |
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The Clinton "scandal" was stupid when it was going on, and it's stupid now. Anyway, is anyone else worried about Bush winning tomorrow? I'm afraid that if he does, hell is going to break loose. Especially if another clusterfuck happens like in 2000. |
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I'm afraid that if he does, hell is going to break loose. But, why would you be afraid of that? |
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#47 Dethstryk Anyway, is anyone else worried about Bush winning tomorrow? Yes. |
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I'd rather not see my country covered up in potential riots, etc. |
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I really don't think it'll be as bad as you assume. Bush stole the election last time and there were no riots, no civil war, no nothing. People are too complacent now to rise up against the government. I do, however, forsee a lot of protesting with no result. |
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Jibble - If it is stolen again (or even if he just wins), it's different this time. We didn't have four years of him fucking us with a grin. |
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#50 I rather meant, why would YOU be afraid of hell breaking loose. I was just going for a cheap joke. Forget it. |
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I think you're overestimating the reaction that people will have to it. In either case (wins or steals), there will be a big upsurge of groaning and bitching, but I don't see anything really serious happening. You've been reading too much Titor. |
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There's some kind of quote about how if men are warm and have full stomachs, they will never be involved enough in their country to revolt or have a revolution or something. Do-Re-Mi-Fa-SO-LONG-FUCKER!
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I agree with Jibble. I mean, if Bush wins 52%-48%, who's going to riot, the 48%? I seriously doubt it. And check your 20th Century history books. America isn't the only country with political sex scandal fallout. |
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So far the polls say Bush is going to win. |
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#36 Charles Anyway, I'd just like to understand that I never understood the whole Clinton/Lewinsky thing. Why such a big deal? It never interfered with his ability to run the country. And people say "But it's because he lied about it." Well of course he fucking lied about it. It was a goddamn trap. Had he come out and said "Yep, I boned her all day all night and I LIKED IT! And I'd DO IT AGAIN!" you can be sure that equal if not worse things would have happened. Actually, nothing would have happened (from a legal standpoint), had he just admitted that he was alone with her from time to time (which would have inevitably lead to an admission of his having an affair with her). The problem with a President perjuring himself is that it is a crime, albeit a minor one. In any case, Clinton ended up accepting a deal after he left office, where in exhange for giving up his license to practice law in Arkansas for five years and a written apology he would be immune from prosecution. |
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It's not perjury is the testimony isn't material to the case. Clinton had a strong argument that it wasn't. Accepting the deal was a plea bargain. Deth- The part in the link the I put up that was important was this: In Florida, 30% of registered voters said they already had cast their ballots, using early voting sites and absentee ballots. They supported Kerry 51%-43%. www.dailyhowler.com is the single most important website that Americans should read every day.
"The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had." |
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#57 by CheesyPoof So far the polls say Bush is going to win. What polls are you reading? |
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if the testimony... blah.... www.dailyhowler.com is the single most important website that Americans should read every day.
"The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had." |
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Anyway, is anyone else worried about Bush winning tomorrow? I'm afraid that if he does, hell is going to break loose. Especially if another clusterfuck happens like in 2000. I haven't been sleeping well for a few days, and I expect that to continue. Emotionally I'm more invested in these election results. Partly because I can't stand Bush, partly because I've become obsessed like no other time, reading anything that has to do with polls, election results, Bush or Kerry. I'm going crazy. i ain't got no love for the east cost
but i do love eatin butter with my toast -DKI(ID |
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Bush isn't going to win, so it doesn't matter what might happen if he does. Didn't you read the topic? Kerry in a landslide. |
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#59 McBain It's not perjury is the testimony isn't material to the case. Clinton had a strong argument that it wasn't. Accepting the deal was a plea bargain. Wow, I'm glad you can read. And it isn't a plea bargain if you haven't been indicted yet because there is no plea to enter. Anyway, the perjury theory isn't so wacky. Other people who have played those sorts of tricks have been convicted in the past and the argument of immateriality isn't slam dunk at all if you ask me. |
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What polls are you reading? I was going to say this one, that I saw on slashdot, but it looks like it has been updated and is now saying Kerry is going to win. It's run by a democrat. This one is run by a republican and has the same results that I saw on the other one earlier. |
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Dethstryk I'm not at all conserned about a Bush victory no matter how he comes to it. Even if he steals the election it'll be painted as a righous victory over liberals and evil doers. On top of that the worst of the Bush administration is behind us, there's just not much very nasty crap he could do with out another 9/11 scale attack (which in itself would cause major political fallout do to preseptions of Bush making america 'safer'). That's not to say four more years of Bush would be a possitive thing just that it's unlikely to get a whole lot worse then it is now. Kerry winning with lawsuits on the other hand could be nasty. Sure america will be better off but that's acctauly part of the problem. He's preseicved as a rich liberal trial-lawyer in league with the activest judges to oppress honest god fearing folks to have him win via the courts, no matter how justified, won't sit well with middle america. He'll get a single term to make a difference then we'll get a neocon with political sway, a strong economy, and avalible military personal to wreak havok. A clear victory will do a lot to alleviate those problems. |
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#57 by CheesyPoof So far the polls say Bush is going to win. Race 2004 which gathers data from polls all around the country says it is tied 269-269. i ain't got no love for the east cost
but i do love eatin butter with my toast -DKI(ID |
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If Kerry is perceived as a trial lawyer, then what the hell is Edwards? MechaLawyer? |
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jj - Bush: 207 Kerry: 185 |
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Read the right-hand column underneath the map Deth. i ain't got no love for the east cost
but i do love eatin butter with my toast -DKI(ID |
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Oh, right. |
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That's not to say four more years of Bush would be a possitive thing just that it's unlikely to get a whole lot worse then it is now. Couldn't disagree more. He'll still be a psychotic born again fundie with delusions that God called him to be President. Except now he won't have to worry about getting reelected. Not to mention the previously mentioned Surpreme Court situation and the fact that with Republicans controlling the congress, there could be very little standing in the way of legislation that makes the PATRIOT Act look quaint. Not to mention that if he wins again then our foreign relations will be set back about 100 years all over the world. Right now most of the world hates Bush but still likes the idea of America. If we show the world that his winning wasn't a fluke and a majority (give or take.. electoral college, mumble, grumble) of us want him in office again, well then it is a different story. Anti-American sentiment will grow all over the world. And rightly so, IMO. |
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I'm less concerned with Bush than I am his potential appointees to the Supreme Court. We've got a lot of old codgers that are itchin' to jump ship from what I've been reading. "Son of a BITCH! The casino security just arrested Px. Oh well." - Yot
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#43 Charles There is lying, and then there is 'lying'. Bush saying Iraq had nukes and connections to Bin Laden? Lying. Clinton saying "naw, I didn't get no blowjob, I loves me my overbearing and controlling wife!", that's 'lying'. One is a serious issue, the other is something that shouldn't matter to anyone but the people directly involved. There should totally be a new rule about politicians. Their private life stays private. Whether or not someone gets sex on the side doesn't affect their ability to govern. You are faulting Mank for making a decision based on a future he didn't know? I also don't agree with your last statement. Change "doesn't" to "might not", then I'll agree. こんにちは
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Greg, that post wasn't a direct reply to Mank, just a general set of thoughts that his post brought up. Also, I will not change "Doesn't to "might not" for the simple reason that one does not imply the other. I will handily agree that both things could be a symptom of a higher problem for trustfulness, but changing it to "might not" implies that there is a potential direct correlation, when really it goes the other direction. Something that affects their ability to govern might also result in sex on the side, but the reverse is not necessarily true at all. Do-Re-Mi-Fa-SO-LONG-FUCKER!
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While I would very much prefer Kerry win, I have a nagging notion that Bush is going to come away with the election. I'm hoping this is mostly due to my being surrounded by Bushite idiots all day long. To want to support Bush, you need to be either rich or stupid....now, there aren't a whole lot of really rich people out there, but there are TONS that want to believe they're in the elite upper class. Also, the only thing more common in the universe than stupidity is hyrdrogen. The vast numbers of the pseudo-rich plus the deeply stupid lends weight to the Bush-Will-Win argument. no, No, NO!
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YF He'll still be a psychotic born again fundie with delusions that God called him to be President. Do you actually think Bush really believes in that? Surely he's just grabbing an important demographic. I can't see how he can justify his actions in accordance with his belief, and whilst I admit that many religious persons are similarly illogical, I credit the president with more intelligence than he appears to have. |
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Jeet, way to fuck up your quote. Do-Re-Mi-Fa-SO-LONG-FUCKER!
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I don't credit Bush with more intelligence because his political life would be nothing if he didn't have all of these powerful people propping him up, from when he ran companies to his run for president. |
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The President clearly did have more intelligence than he now appears to have. Just watch that video somebody linked here comparing his old Texas governer speech to his recent Presidential speeches. Deciding whether or not he is acting stupid for the "common man" vibe, or he has a degenerative brain condition is left as an exercise for the reader. In any case, yeah, I do believe he is dangerously Christian (as is Ashcroft). I've met enough crazy born-agains-who-used-to-be-serious-drunks to see the same sort of progression when you look at Bush's history. |
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That, and the glassy eyes. |
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Thinking back, I really would love to see a civil uproar that's powerful if Bush wins, so I don't have to be depressed over how people don't give a shit about this country. |
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#82 Dethstryk Thinking back, I really would love to see a civil uproar that's powerful if Bush wins, so I don't have to be depressed over how people don't give a shit about this country. Just so you know, you're causing the depression yourself right now. |
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Chuckles, What quote? The hydrogen/stupidity thing? It's Harlan Ellison and, if I was quoting, I'd say, "The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." no, No, NO!
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#72 by Your Friend Couldn't disagree more. He'll still be a psychotic born again fundie with delusions that God called him to be President. Except now he won't have to worry about getting reelected. I don't belive that'd at all be an issuse since frankly the administration has blown it's wad and already put all of risky policies that would have formed Bush's second term into action. At this point a second term will be mostly reactionary with round about tax cuts rather then the administration pushing for a lot of new things (basicly the last 6 months or so drawn out). Not good, but far from being pushed into some cesspool of a police state. As for the Surpreme Court thing any justice who isn't a social conservative is likely to stay on through another four years of Bush. So unless one of the more liberal justices manages to keel over on the bench he won't be breaking the current divide. Not to mention that if he wins again then our foreign relations will be set back about 100 years all over the world. Right now most of the world hates Bush but still likes the idea of America. This will only be a problem temporarly. Once every one else figures there's no way short of another 9/11 size event for Bush to continue invading countries much of Anti-American sentiment will fade. Again it won't be good but I can't see it geting to a point that couldn't quickly be patched up. |
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Sadly, Kerry's bid for victory was cut short when he was caught holding Hitler's baby while Bush paced around his jet. |
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And it isn't a plea bargain if you haven't been indicted yet because there is no plea to enter. Surely you understand the concept of analogy.www.dailyhowler.com is the single most important website that Americans should read every day.
"The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had." |
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The Friend Sed "Bush isn't going to win, so it doesn't matter what might happen if he does." DeNile ain't just a creek in Israel! Slowly sinking in to a depression as I realise my life doesn't amount to what I thought it would. - J.J. Johnsen
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If Kerry wins, I want to see people sent to jail for all the disenfranchising schemes the Republicans are running. UAC! Fuck yeah!
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The main worry I have with Bush getting another term is the draft. I know both candidates have repeatedly said they wouldn't seek one, and with Kerry it's believable becuase of how he would approach foriegn policy. Bush, on the other hand, has so alienated this country from the rest of the world, that we're not likely to get a whole lot of support from allies in the form of troops. If Bush wants to continue - and expand - his "war on terror" or "wars of liberation" or whatever Orwellian term he puts to conquest (ok, maybe that's going a bit too far, but you get the idea), he's going to run out of tropps. You can't take a currently stretched-thin military and continue to stretch it out more and more without putting some new military in. Since we're not likely to make up for our troop numbers with aid from allies, the troops are going to have to come from home. All that said, I see stronger and stronger campaigns to recruit volunteers before I see a draft, along with extended tours for reservists and such. Still, the possibility is there, and more than the loss of American lives, what will bother me the most is what something like mandatory service will do to the country. I was fortunate enough to have been born after the 60's. I don't want to wake up one morning to find hippies outside my front doorl no, No, NO!
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SUPPORT OUR TROPPS! no, No, NO!
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